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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 24 2014 13:20 GMT
#9541
On August 24 2014 17:06 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:36 Mataza wrote:
On August 23 2014 21:50 sumsaR wrote:
On August 23 2014 13:36 Forikorder wrote:
basically hitsugaya is imagining how the fight is going subconciously, he goes to swing but it takes so long to his senses that he startes planning the next move then when he gets to game over it resets

Not only does Forikorder know what Oda thinks, he's also got a dial-in to Kubo.

We should just start reading what Forikorder writes instead of the actual chapters, as he knows best.

I don't see you coming up with smart ideas, so why don't you stop being an ass and picking on the guy who has a hard time expressing his ideas correctly in english?
I know it's easy to criticize others, but mocking someone who just tries to make sense of, let's be honest about Bleach and Naruto, quite absurd stories is just bad mannered.


But what would the point of doing that be? It's Kubo. I'd only be wasting my time. There's really no need whatsoever to "come up with smart ideas" to make sense of Bleach. We're way past the point of no return to reasonable territory.

And I'm sorry (not really) if sarcasm that's been in effect for ages (yes, that's how long we've been mocking Forikorder) offends you.

"We've been behaving like this for a long time" is a weak argument to continue being an asshole.
I have been there. Forikorder is getting better with his english skills, slowly but surely.

What irks me is that even the good ideas he has are looked down upon because 5 years ago he was a pretty bad poster.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
August 24 2014 13:43 GMT
#9542
On August 24 2014 17:06 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:36 Mataza wrote:
On August 23 2014 21:50 sumsaR wrote:
On August 23 2014 13:36 Forikorder wrote:
basically hitsugaya is imagining how the fight is going subconciously, he goes to swing but it takes so long to his senses that he startes planning the next move then when he gets to game over it resets

Not only does Forikorder know what Oda thinks, he's also got a dial-in to Kubo.

We should just start reading what Forikorder writes instead of the actual chapters, as he knows best.

I don't see you coming up with smart ideas, so why don't you stop being an ass and picking on the guy who has a hard time expressing his ideas correctly in english?
I know it's easy to criticize others, but mocking someone who just tries to make sense of, let's be honest about Bleach and Naruto, quite absurd stories is just bad mannered.


But what would the point of doing that be? It's Kubo. I'd only be wasting my time. There's really no need whatsoever to "come up with smart ideas" to make sense of Bleach. We're way past the point of no return to reasonable territory.

And I'm sorry (not really) if sarcasm that's been in effect for ages (yes, that's how long we've been mocking Forikorder) offends you.


I'm all for having fun when we are discussing but c'mon guys. I think we gotta give credit where credit is due.

Forik did have a point and I would have to agree with him. He isn't on that close minded one way street anymore and I appreciate that he does try to contribute to the discussion, a little more healthily now that before.

Sometimes, he still doesn't want to let go of his idea even when there is no proof on his end, but on this one, he isn't at least in the wrong outright.

I do hope Kubo expands how this "drug" actually works because this was quite a step up in terms of the "norm" we usually get. But that is usually the case when we get Mayuri in the picture. He seems to bring out the best in Kubo. hehe!

Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 24 2014 14:01 GMT
#9543
What's wrong with forikorder's english? He communicates whatever bullshit ideas he has perfectly fine. In this case that kubo doesn't know how to express himself and his own version of events is what kubo intended. Even if his version would make more sense than Kubo's it doesn't alter that he is proposing an entirely different version of events than has been translated.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 16:57:10
August 24 2014 16:52 GMT
#9544
Yeah, it seems like there's some misconception that I'm mocking his English. I'm not. I'm mocking whatever bullshit he's spouting that he decides is the truth at that particular moment (despite the author saying someone else, which would explain my whole initial post about him knowing best).

"Romanian" since long ago stopped being an insult at messy English sentences (if it's ever been) and is now used to describe someone like Forikorder coming up with crazy shit and defending it to absurdity. Rei's got perfect English, yet we call him Romanian whenever he's around spouting insanities. Assuming that's the reason his English skills came up as a topic. If not, I'm not sure how you're strawman-ing me.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
August 24 2014 16:57 GMT
#9545
Tbh I always thought Fori was a troll and all his posts just a big act.

Now I'm having serious doubts lol. This thread was always more fun than Kubo's manga but now it's also getting more... deep?
Revolutionist fan
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 02:48:06
August 24 2014 17:04 GMT
#9546
On August 25 2014 01:52 sumsaR wrote:
Yeah, it seems like there's some misconception that I'm mocking his English. I'm not. I'm mocking whatever bullshit he's spouting that he decides is the truth at that particular moment (despite the author saying someone else, which would explain my whole initial post about him knowing best).

"Romanian" since long ago stopped being an insult at messy English sentences (if it's ever been) and is now used to describe someone like Forikorder coming up with crazy shit and defending it to absurdity. Rei's got perfect English, yet we call him Romanian whenever he's around spouting insanities. Assuming that's the reason his English skills came up as a topic. If not, I'm not sure how you're strawman-ing me.

Mayuri said that his drugs give superhuman abilities to those who take them, Mayuri said nothing about magical time travel

bolded for clarity because aparently thats neccesary
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 20:13:30
August 24 2014 20:12 GMT
#9547
See, he's not even replying to what he's quoting at this point. How is that not spouting bullcrap and absurdities?
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
August 24 2014 20:36 GMT
#9548
On August 25 2014 05:12 sumsaR wrote:
See, he's not even replying to what he's quoting at this point. How is that not spouting bullcrap and absurdities?


Read the first paragraph of his quote. Read his answer. Now make the connection. If you can't, you mocking him doesn't make sense.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 20:51:23
August 24 2014 20:49 GMT
#9549
On August 25 2014 01:52 sumsaR wrote:
Yeah, it seems like there's some misconception that I'm mocking his English. I'm not. I'm mocking whatever bullshit he's spouting that he decides is the truth at that particular moment (despite the author saying someone else, which would explain my whole initial post about him knowing best).

"Romanian" since long ago stopped being an insult at messy English sentences (if it's ever been) and is now used to describe someone like Forikorder coming up with crazy shit and defending it to absurdity. Rei's got perfect English, yet we call him Romanian whenever he's around spouting insanities. Assuming that's the reason his English skills came up as a topic. If not, I'm not sure how you're strawman-ing me.

Well, I got better things to do than white knighting all day, but here we go. Just for you.

Romanian was meaning somebody didn't understand sarcasm, not being a troll.
I actually had a few personal messages with rei and he actually identified as troll to mock people in manga/anime threads showing poor understanding of the story world or being bad at formulating arguments.
That was the fun thing about rei, that he actually argued quite well in the context of the manga, despite fully knowing the flaws of his own "enel is invincible" statement.

That is also not how you use straw man in any context. You are making fun of Forikorder, I accuse you of mocking him, that is what you do.
What you guys are, is biased. You see Forikorder wrote it, and first you assume he is wrong and then go for cheap criticisms. Even if the *unofficial* fan translation of the manga is weird or makes no sense in any way you choose to believe the fan translation is completely right; for no other reason than then Forikorder is wrong and you can hammer out another "forik so wrong, omg" post.

You see for this chapter of bleach I am quite sure that forikorder was one of the first ones to write that the effect of the drug is probably a hallucination and therefore not actual time travel. This was the way I understood the chapter as well.
BUT forikorder did say that(among other people). Therefore you decided the opposite of that must be true, which means a fucking drug, like a pill or injection, causes time travel.
The best part is that you ignored other people that interpret the last chapter as drug induced hallucinations, the same way as forikorder.


So yeah, I think you are on thin ice on this one. Taking the third or so post saying "it's hallucinations" because forikorder wrote it is quite literally picking on someone. As in you picked a guy that got picked on by other before.
Come berate me and newsunshine for having said the same exact thing just before forikorder did.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
August 24 2014 20:51 GMT
#9550
On August 25 2014 05:36 Eshra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 05:12 sumsaR wrote:
See, he's not even replying to what he's quoting at this point. How is that not spouting bullcrap and absurdities?


Read the first paragraph of his quote. Read his answer. Now make the connection. If you can't, you mocking him doesn't make sense.


I can make no sense of his answer in regards to the first paragraph, without also going back and trying to find the original discussion point to which Forik is talking about.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
August 24 2014 21:03 GMT
#9551
Last I'll say on this matter, is that I've gotten into arguments with Forikorder before. Admittedly, I did the last one just to see if I could win, because I'd seen how he posted before. But this time what he's saying makes sense, it's how I, as well as hopefully many others, understood the chapter, I didn't think it was particularly difficult to understand that a point of view change doesn't need to be announced, figuring out the change of perspective as it's happening is often the coolest part of hallucinatory-type shenanigans. Having said that, it makes more sense that sumsar is just picking on him being a dick to him, for I don't know why. I also remember him flat out bashing Naruto and Bleach before, for no other reason than it must be cool or something. Not very complicated, I say just ignore sumsar until he says something worth reading, most of it's been straight-up negativity.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 21:47:35
August 24 2014 21:46 GMT
#9552
Wait. Are you saying we're all not reading Naruto and Bleach just to bash them afterwards in their respective threads? Well, that's news to me. I sure as hell am not reading them because they're even remotely good.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
August 24 2014 23:19 GMT
#9553
On August 24 2014 10:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Discerning Kubo's intentions is the surest road to insanity.


So, if I were to use your analogy. Kubo is Mayuri and he has administered a Drug (Bleach) to us. How many times do you think we've been in this loop.

Also, sumsaR, you have to understand something about Forikorder. He argues his points as though he's right because he looks for a strong counter argument from his opponent. His perceived "conviction" is nothing more than pushing you to give a stronger counter argument. He is also too proud to admit he is wrong. Fact is, in speculative arguments such as this, there is no right or wrong. You're getting your knickers in a bunch over nothing....
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 23:23:13
August 24 2014 23:21 GMT
#9554
On August 25 2014 06:46 sumsaR wrote:
Wait. Are you saying we're all not reading Naruto and Bleach just to bash them afterwards in their respective threads? Well, that's news to me. I sure as hell am not reading them because they're even remotely good.


Then you're a masochistic idiot that should be bashed harder than u bash Forikorder...who at least tries to be constructive even though he is not too productive.

And I just realised I and everyone else have just managed to derail this thread by responding to your post... why don't we respond to Forikorders posts instead and then maybe we'll get on topic and theorise about Bleach.. in a BLEACH thread.. and you can go make a Forikorder thread and Manga Masochists thread.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 23:44:35
August 24 2014 23:43 GMT
#9555
On August 25 2014 08:21 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 06:46 sumsaR wrote:
Wait. Are you saying we're all not reading Naruto and Bleach just to bash them afterwards in their respective threads? Well, that's news to me. I sure as hell am not reading them because they're even remotely good.


Then you're a masochistic idiot that should be bashed harder than u bash Forikorder...who at least tries to be constructive even though he is not too productive.

Why? I'm being entertained by how bad it is. It's absurd comedy at this point. I thought everyone thought that.

And we're still technically talking about Bleach.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
August 25 2014 04:34 GMT
#9556
On August 25 2014 08:43 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 08:21 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
On August 25 2014 06:46 sumsaR wrote:
Wait. Are you saying we're all not reading Naruto and Bleach just to bash them afterwards in their respective threads? Well, that's news to me. I sure as hell am not reading them because they're even remotely good.


Then you're a masochistic idiot that should be bashed harder than u bash Forikorder...who at least tries to be constructive even though he is not too productive.

Why? I'm being entertained by how bad it is. It's absurd comedy at this point. I thought everyone thought that.

And we're still technically talking about Bleach.

It's easy to think that everyone thinks the same thing you do - in fact I'm sure that's some sort of logical fallacy with a name and everything. Doesn't mean it's true. I read manga because I like it. I would say everyone else feels the same, but evidently they don't. Still, me assuming that everyone who reads it likes it is infinitely more reasonable than your cynical assumption.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
August 28 2014 17:43 GMT
#9557
So to get back on topic about Bleach. What is up with that fat bald guy? His power seems to control people but is it Mind Control or Body Control because I really couldn't tell. I wonder how many of this random nazy quincys there are left.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 28 2014 18:02 GMT
#9558
On August 29 2014 02:43 GettingIt wrote:
So to get back on topic about Bleach. What is up with that fat bald guy? His power seems to control people but is it Mind Control or Body Control because I really couldn't tell. I wonder how many of this random nazy quincys there are left.

it makes people fall in love with him who then do things for him
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
August 28 2014 19:03 GMT
#9559
What just happened in that chapter.
Sup.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 28 2014 19:09 GMT
#9560
Is the last page missing? Mangareader ends w/ 18 which contains the half finished sentence of "His twisted love is messing with" -- only fanart afterwards.
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