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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 13 2018 03:36 GMT
#8221
On June 13 2018 01:42 Plansix wrote:
On the other hand, this can be a great transition into how Snyder's objectivity ruined Man of Steel. Where Pa Kent is turned into a Papa Rand, telling Clark it is to unique and talented to be risk saving a school bus full of kids and being exposed. That Clark is so unique and awesome his father lets himself die so Clark won't risk teh little, non-unique people fearing his greatness, which is what the common people fear. Greatness and natural talent.

Snyder is going to make an amazing film in the Fountain head, which I will watch drunk with a bunch of friend just like I did with the Room.


Man of Steel is made by a Randian?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 13 2018 13:17 GMT
#8222
On June 13 2018 12:36 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2018 01:42 Plansix wrote:
On the other hand, this can be a great transition into how Snyder's objectivity ruined Man of Steel. Where Pa Kent is turned into a Papa Rand, telling Clark it is to unique and talented to be risk saving a school bus full of kids and being exposed. That Clark is so unique and awesome his father lets himself die so Clark won't risk teh little, non-unique people fearing his greatness, which is what the common people fear. Greatness and natural talent.

Snyder is going to make an amazing film in the Fountain head, which I will watch drunk with a bunch of friend just like I did with the Room.


Man of Steel is made by a Randian?

Zack Snyder likes Rand so much he has been pushing his fountain head movie for years. So yes.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43135 Posts
June 14 2018 02:56 GMT
#8223
On June 13 2018 00:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the 1949 movie version of the Fountainhead was decent...certainly better than awful.
Miss Rand is probably the #1 Novelist//fiction writer of the 20th century.
How many other 1940s novels get discussed on a video game/esports web site?

You understand that this is a Tolkein themed website, right?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43135 Posts
June 14 2018 02:59 GMT
#8224
On June 13 2018 12:36 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2018 01:42 Plansix wrote:
On the other hand, this can be a great transition into how Snyder's objectivity ruined Man of Steel. Where Pa Kent is turned into a Papa Rand, telling Clark it is to unique and talented to be risk saving a school bus full of kids and being exposed. That Clark is so unique and awesome his father lets himself die so Clark won't risk teh little, non-unique people fearing his greatness, which is what the common people fear. Greatness and natural talent.

Snyder is going to make an amazing film in the Fountain head, which I will watch drunk with a bunch of friend just like I did with the Room.


Man of Steel is made by a Randian?

ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
June 14 2018 03:36 GMT
#8225
On June 14 2018 11:56 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2018 00:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the 1949 movie version of the Fountainhead was decent...certainly better than awful.
Miss Rand is probably the #1 Novelist//fiction writer of the 20th century.
How many other 1940s novels get discussed on a video game/esports web site?

You understand that this is a Tolkein themed website, right?


Really?...
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43135 Posts
June 14 2018 03:39 GMT
#8226
On June 14 2018 12:36 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 11:56 KwarK wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the 1949 movie version of the Fountainhead was decent...certainly better than awful.
Miss Rand is probably the #1 Novelist//fiction writer of the 20th century.
How many other 1940s novels get discussed on a video game/esports web site?

You understand that this is a Tolkein themed website, right?


Really?...

Yes, really.

Remember how big LotR was in the early 2000s?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 03:45:44
June 14 2018 03:44 GMT
#8227
On June 14 2018 12:39 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 12:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On June 14 2018 11:56 KwarK wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the 1949 movie version of the Fountainhead was decent...certainly better than awful.
Miss Rand is probably the #1 Novelist//fiction writer of the 20th century.
How many other 1940s novels get discussed on a video game/esports web site?

You understand that this is a Tolkein themed website, right?


Really?...

Yes, really.

Remember how big LotR was in the early 2000s?


How does it relate to TL though? I want history lesson!

To keep posts on topic just saw new Ocean's 8. Was ok, not as good as George Clooney and the boys, but was good in it's own right. I disliked how every single preview before the movie was non-stop chick flicks. Way to stereotype the first all female Ocean's movie...
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43135 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 05:06:32
June 14 2018 03:54 GMT
#8228
On June 14 2018 12:44 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 12:39 KwarK wrote:
On June 14 2018 12:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On June 14 2018 11:56 KwarK wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the 1949 movie version of the Fountainhead was decent...certainly better than awful.
Miss Rand is probably the #1 Novelist//fiction writer of the 20th century.
How many other 1940s novels get discussed on a video game/esports web site?

You understand that this is a Tolkein themed website, right?


Really?...

Yes, really.

Remember how big LotR was in the early 2000s?


How does it relate to TL though? I want history lesson!

To keep posts on topic just saw new Ocean's 8. Was ok, not as good as George Clooney and the boys, but was good in it's own right. I disliked how every single preview before the movie was non-stop chick flicks. Way to stereotype the first all female Ocean's movie...

tl is a LotR themed website from the early 2000s. That’s the relationship to Tolkien. It was founded by Nazgul, early members included Eriador and some others I forget. I feel like the original banner was inspired by the scene from fellowship where Arwen summons horses from water. That’s where the tl horses come from at least.
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ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
June 14 2018 05:07 GMT
#8229
On June 14 2018 12:54 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 12:44 Zooper31 wrote:
On June 14 2018 12:39 KwarK wrote:
On June 14 2018 12:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On June 14 2018 11:56 KwarK wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the 1949 movie version of the Fountainhead was decent...certainly better than awful.
Miss Rand is probably the #1 Novelist//fiction writer of the 20th century.
How many other 1940s novels get discussed on a video game/esports web site?

You understand that this is a Tolkein themed website, right?


Really?...

Yes, really.

Remember how big LotR was in the early 2000s?


How does it relate to TL though? I want history lesson!

To keep posts on topic just saw new Ocean's 8. Was ok, not as good as George Clooney and the boys, but was good in it's own right. I disliked how every single preview before the movie was non-stop chick flicks. Way to stereotype the first all female Ocean's movie...

Tl is a LotR themed website from the early 2000s. That’s the relationship to Tolkien. It was founded by Nazgul, early members included Eriador and a some others I forget. The banner was inspired by the scene from fellowship where Arwen summons horses from water. That’s why the horse is liquid’s logo.
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I knew Nazgul was a LotR name, never really connected with the original horse banner picture though lol. The more you know.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16859 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 05:34:09
June 14 2018 05:14 GMT
#8230
Lost in all of this is that the 1949 movie, The Fountainhead , was a 7/10. Not a bad movie. Seeing as no one is disputing that and this is a movie thread (not an Ayn Rand thread) this will be my last post on it.
On June 14 2018 11:56 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2018 00:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the 1949 movie version of the Fountainhead was decent...certainly better than awful.
Miss Rand is probably the #1 Novelist//fiction writer of the 20th century.
How many other 1940s novels get discussed on a video game/esports web site?

You understand that this is a Tolkein themed website, right?

i'm not sure this qualifies as a novel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmer_Giles_of_Ham
On June 13 2018 00:21 farvacola wrote:
In the book thread, plenty. Being discussed is an extremely low bar anyway; a mod on this site has even written an excellent blog about how Rand's writing is objectively low quality and serves as little more than a clumsy, boring vehicle for political belief masquerading as art, an assessment that would likely carry even more force were Mr. Snyder's plans to take form.

The mod is incorrect. Rand's stated purpose of her fiction is the projection of the ideal man. She goes into much greater depth and detail than the single sentence i provided in her non fiction book "The Romantic Manifesto". If you want to learn the underlying purpose of her novel writing check out that book.
in the Fountainhead Howard Roark is her ideal man. In Atlas Shrugged , John Galt is her ideal man.
On June 13 2018 12:35 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2018 00:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the 1949 movie version of the Fountainhead was decent...certainly better than awful.
Miss Rand is probably the #1 Novelist//fiction writer of the 20th century.
How many other 1940s novels get discussed on a video game/esports web site?


damn #1 novelist of the 20th century lol

back when the New York Times was actually a good newspaper Americans were asked what books most deeply influenced their life. Unfortunately, the Bible was #1. It gives me hope knowing that Atlas Shrugged was #2.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 05:39:04
June 14 2018 05:31 GMT
#8231
so a past survey gives you hope for the future?

The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16859 Posts
June 14 2018 05:33 GMT
#8232
On June 14 2018 14:31 IgnE wrote:
so a past survey gives you hope for the future?

every survey is in the past.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 14 2018 05:35 GMT
#8233
as compared to the "present" broadly conceived, rather than "back when"
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17376 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 08:03:23
June 14 2018 08:01 GMT
#8234
On June 14 2018 12:54 KwarK wrote:
tl is a LotR themed website from the early 2000s. That’s the relationship to Tolkien. It was founded by Nazgul, early members included Eriador and some others I forget. I feel like the original banner was inspired by the scene from fellowship where Arwen summons horses from water. That’s where the tl horses come from at least.
[image loading]


TL.net predates the movies. And it was Elrond who summoned the horses in the books, not Arwen (the river around Rivendell was enchanted and kind of did it on its own automatically when evil things tried to cross the ford).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9627 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 12:26:01
June 14 2018 12:25 GMT
#8235
I’d challenge that assertion. Eri’s account was made in 2002, and the fellow ship of the rings was released in 2001. i won’t claim to know the original banner was actually inspired by the river scene but it definitely stands to reason.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17376 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 21:30:14
June 14 2018 21:28 GMT
#8236
On June 14 2018 21:25 brian wrote:
I’d challenge that assertion. Eri’s account was made in 2002, and the fellow ship of the rings was released in 2001. i won’t claim to know the original banner was actually inspired by the river scene but it definitely stands to reason.


TL.net launched 01.05.2001, LotR release: 19.12.2001

Your argument is invalid
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43135 Posts
June 15 2018 01:09 GMT
#8237
On June 15 2018 06:28 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 21:25 brian wrote:
I’d challenge that assertion. Eri’s account was made in 2002, and the fellow ship of the rings was released in 2001. i won’t claim to know the original banner was actually inspired by the river scene but it definitely stands to reason.


TL.net launched 01.05.2001, LotR release: 19.12.2001

Your argument is invalid

Oddly enough I looked on waybackmachine at some of the first incarnations of the tl site. The banner came in 2002 I think.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10778 Posts
June 15 2018 17:26 GMT
#8238
I allways tought of "the last unicorn" when looking at the old banner.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14023 Posts
June 22 2018 23:10 GMT
#8239
Just came out of Incredables 2. and I've never been as board watching a movie.

Pixar really jumped the shark with this. The short film to start the movie was Disturbing unnecessary and groan worthy at the end. This is after a 2 minute "thanks for waiting for so long" montage of the main voice actors.

So after 30 minutes of previews montage and a short film the next two hours were predictable cliched trash that had less risk to it then a blues clues show. The animation was another generational leap forward for Pixar but they definitely forgot how to make a good story.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-23 02:45:53
June 23 2018 02:44 GMT
#8240
Rotten Tomatoes reports 199 Fresh reviews for only 12 Rotten reviews for the Incredibles 2 movie.

Although the New Yorker says: What’s chilling about “Incredibles 2” is its vision of born leaders with an unimpeachable moral compass to whom all right-thinking people should swear allegiance and invest confidence.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
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