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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Falling
Canada11363 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/NqeaeIz.png) I'm glad it was changed to Skywalker. I'm not overly fond of things like L337, which more like referential humour, but the problem with referential humour is it typically dates itself pretty quick and it messes with secondary world building. | ||
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17305 Posts
On May 26 2018 06:11 CosmicSpiral wrote: Man, you did a good job of deflating my expectations. Watch it anyway  Going in with low expectations will shield you from disappointment and gives a higher chance to be pleasantly surprised.On May 26 2018 05:14 polgas wrote: Star Wars The Last Jedi - slightly better than Force Awakens. A lot of forced comedy that are not really funny, just like TFA. Some situations stretch the believability thin. Like how does the First Order get that strong being led by such blundering idiots, or how the rebels just brush off the losses from an impulsive leader who still acts like a comedian. The story needs a strong dose of serious. How is it any better than FA? I mean, just typing "the last jedi" in YouTube mostly gives you titles like:
If you do the same with "force awakens" there's only one really negative title and most are neutral/positive. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On May 29 2018 20:44 Manit0u wrote: Watch it anyway Going in with low expectations will shield you from disappointment and gives a higher chance to be pleasantly surprised.How is it any better than FA? I mean, just typing "the last jedi" in YouTube mostly gives you titles like:
If you do the same with "force awakens" there's only one really negative title and most are neutral/positive. Wait so the quality of a movie is decided by typing the title into youtube and looking at how many of these hate videos you can find? Interesting methodology for sure. What is interesting to me is that i noticed no matter what a new star wars movie does, the hardcore fanbase will complain. About things which the old movies already did just as badly, or about things marvel for example does now (the usage of humor for example). I can only come to the conclusion that the hardcore star wars fans actually don't want any new movies, they just wanna live in their nostalgia bubble about the OT which was perfect in their minds (while having lots of flaws themselves) I really think that you could make the best star wars movie ever (which wouldn't be that hard actually) and people would still complain that it's not the OT. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10742 Posts
TLJ is just garbage from start to finnish. Its worse than bad fan fiction. The best thing star wars ever created was most likely fan patched Kotor 2. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10742 Posts
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KwarK
United States42868 Posts
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KwarK
United States42868 Posts
There's no line quite as good as "Will you marry me? But wait before answering because first I must fly my helicopter over a volcano for business reasons and I sure hope nothing bad happens before I get back and you tell me what your decision is.", which was the highpoint of the second movie and the series for me. But the random storylines that don't go anywhere, the absurd sex scenes, the complete incoherence of all the characters involved, and the failure to stick to a single genre for more than 5 minutes still make it a masterpiece on the same level as The Room. Recommended. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13969 Posts
I don't think TLJ would be as bad of a movie if it wasn't episode 8 of a property thats had multiple TV shows, books, and video games to build a universe for and yet can't fill itself with 20 minutes of decent content at best. Marvel has much more of a universe around it it doesn't have to listen to and generally uses only threads of the content but manages to generate quality film from it. | ||
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
On May 30 2018 03:57 KwarK wrote: Incidentally I watched the last 50 Shades movie a few days ago and it absolutely holds up to the standard set by the first two. The trilogy is a masterpiece of self parody. Halfway through they decided that the main bad guy was going to be a secret brother of the main good guy because the good guy was adopted and couldn't remember or some shit. Unfortunately the bad guy already had his own character background and motivation that had nothing to do with being raised in the same Final Fantasy VIII orphanage and forgetting about it so they keep dropping hints at this secret shocking truth which just wasn't a part of the story. Then, after the bad guy has been arrested and the movie is over, the good guy finds out, looks at the camera and goes "I wonder if I would have ended up like him if I hadn't been adopted out of the orphanage" to which the main girl responds by ending the nature vs nurture debate with a conclusive declaration that upbringing has no impact on anything and the bad guy was just fundamentally bad. There's no line quite as good as "Will you marry me? But wait before answering because first I must fly my helicopter over a volcano for business reasons and I sure hope nothing bad happens before I get back and you tell me what your decision is.", which was the highpoint of the second movie and the series for me. But the random storylines that don't go anywhere, the absurd sex scenes, the complete incoherence of all the characters involved, and the failure to stick to a single genre for more than 5 minutes still make it a masterpiece on the same level as The Room. Recommended. Are you masochistic by chance? Or do you just really want to know how teenagers and unsatisfied housewives think? I saw an Honest Trailer to the last one and couldn't even laugh at how bad it was. | ||
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KwarK
United States42868 Posts
On May 30 2018 05:22 [DUF]MethodMan wrote: Are you masochistic by chance? Or do you just really want to know how teenagers and unsatisfied housewives think? I saw an Honest Trailer to the last one and couldn't even laugh at how bad it was. It really is funny. At one point it devolves into weird anti abortion moralizing about how sex causes babies and the guy has to take responsibility for babies if he had sex, after she secretly went off birth control and didn't tell him. But he's the good guy so he never even says he wants her to have an abortion. She tells him she's pregnant, he's like "wtf, you stopped taking birth control and didn't tell me? I'm not ready for this shit", and then she spends like 15+ minutes doing a scripted pro-life infomercial when nobody in the movie was talking about abortion because she's a strong female character who knows her own mind. It's parody. | ||
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DSK
England1110 Posts
On May 29 2018 11:07 WarSame wrote: Pleasantville is one of my favourite movies that no one I know has seen. I've seen it and I'm quite fond of it, but it isn't what I would call a typical comedy, if one can call it that. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On May 30 2018 08:33 KwarK wrote: It's parody. I have some bad news for you... | ||
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KwarK
United States42868 Posts
I'll believe that the fan fiction author was serious but there is zero chance that the people making those movies weren't doing it on purpose. There were countless places where they could have tried to make a real movie or at the very least toned it down but instead presented it exactly as it was written with the driest delivery they could think of and left it to the audience to work out what they thought about the piece of shit they were producing. Near the end of one of them a helicopter with the main character crashes into a volcano in the middle of the wilderness. Next scene he just walks in through the door and tells everyone he's fine and the entire movie moves along without anyone bringing up the whole volcano thing again and with it having zero impact on the plot. That shit is intentional, that's the director sharing a joke about the source material with the audience. It could have been cut, it could have been made into part of the story, they could at least have had some intervening time where the guy has to hike to civilization or they search for him or whatever. But nope, just volcano into "hi guys, I'm back from the volcano" and everyone moves forwards like he had gone to the store to get a pack of smokes. | ||
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goody153
44163 Posts
It wasn't the spine tingling alien suspense i expected. It more action oriented and well the sense of fear wasn't there but the disturbing factor of the + Show Spoiler + AI gone rogue but pretends it didn't and is about to spread mayhem and he really did The setting looks good. The space parts are nice. So overall it was still a decent watch And oh it's a Prometheus sequel. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
And honestly, looking at either director for these films, I'm not seeing any quality that gives them the benefit of the doubt. | ||
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
On May 30 2018 09:04 DSK wrote: I've seen it and I'm quite fond of it, but it isn't what I would call a typical comedy, if one can call it that. It's definitely more of a dry/dark comedy or a social critique. It honestly is a lot stronger on the social themes than any sort of comedy! | ||
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