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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 14:59:13
June 10 2013 14:51 GMT
#19801


User was warned for this post
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 14:54:42
June 10 2013 14:53 GMT
#19802
i dont know if the show stated other locations, but they definitely werent the only one.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 10 2013 14:53 GMT
#19803
On June 10 2013 23:46 Abenrod wrote:
Also, one question about the Greyjoy part that I got distracted:

What was the Bolton's request to Balon? To have the Greyjoys leave the Iron Islands? ergo their own lands?


No he said for them to leave the North. Apparently they have been raiding it the whole season even though it has never been mentioned. The only places that the show has mentioned them taking was Deepwood Motte by Yara in season 2, and obviously she isn't there any more, and Winterfell, which Theon lost. If there are other places they might control, they haven't been mentioned yet.
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 14:54:30
June 10 2013 14:53 GMT
#19804
On June 10 2013 23:50 Abenrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 23:48 TSORG wrote:
no they have to leave the north.


Thanks! but I'm still lost. What troops do Greyjoys have left in the North? and where? (if the show has stated this clearly). I thought Theon guys that betrayed them were the only ones.


There are troops at Torrhen's Square - that's where some of the Ironborn went after the sack of Winterfell. And other little castle-forts like that, small towns, especially in the western part of the North, closer to the shore. I can list a couple other names, but it still won't mean much to you. Suffice it to say that Balon's still has crews/groups of his men scattered around the North trying to hold onto the lands in the name of the Iron Islands.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
June 10 2013 14:53 GMT
#19805
Not a terrible episode, but very underwhelming for a finale. The act it had to follow didn't help either.
JeremyK
Profile Joined November 2010
53 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 15:16:53
June 10 2013 14:56 GMT
#19806
edit: post removed since I was complaining about someone spoiling. So its not empty:

The wait for the next season is going to be so long Hate that they only do 10 episodes
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
June 10 2013 14:58 GMT
#19807
Oh well, time to read the books now, i need to know what the hell littlefinger thinks about this stuff.
And brianne when she gets to know too.

I really liked chapter 9-10. Of course finale felt a bit more bland, because the 9 was perfect for a real cliffhanger.
Abenrod
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile26 Posts
June 10 2013 14:58 GMT
#19808
Thanks Xivsa, karazax and TSORG for your replies. That clears my confusion .
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 10 2013 15:02 GMT
#19809
Guys, in every season so far the big thing that happened happened in episode 9, and in every season so far episode 10 was very quiet compared to episode 9. I'm not going to be much of a prophet if I tell you that I looked into my fires and saw that it will be just like that for season 4, too. Stop expecting big cliffhangers.

Having said that, the ending with Dany was a tad lame. Still a great episode, though.
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
June 10 2013 15:05 GMT
#19810
On June 10 2013 23:58 Abenrod wrote:
Thanks Xivsa, karazax and TSORG for your replies. That clears my confusion .


basically ironborn are like vikings, so they raid in small parties of 30-60 men, enough to cause trouble to any small place or bigger places if they come with surprise. this makes it hard to deal with them but at the same time it makes them uncapapble of dealing with a large force if it aims their entire might at them, as seen in the result of the 1st greyjoy rebellion.
Heartscry
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
June 10 2013 15:06 GMT
#19811
On June 10 2013 23:49 Golgotha wrote:
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On June 10 2013 23:45 Heartscry wrote:
I'm a massive fan of the series but I have to say, I had my head in my hands as it ended with that Dany scene. How trite and cliched could they make it?

Had they ended with episode 9 I think I'd be bubbling over with hyped excitement by now, as it is I'm brutally disappointed.


yeah that scene was bs. insult to the quality writing of the previous episodes.


Absolutely. It was a bizarre departure from the usual standard, desperately cringeworthy. It just didnt seem to fit in with rest of the series in any way, shape or form. She's gone from having to show strength to unite her husbands tribe after his death to suddenly being a hands on loving mother to thousands.
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
June 10 2013 15:19 GMT
#19812
On June 10 2013 23:46 J_Slim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 23:13 Kazius wrote:
On June 10 2013 22:57 PerryHooter wrote:
I liked the episode but I agree that the last scene was lackluster, they tried to make it epic but failed to do so. Just compare it to the ending os S1 (dragons born) and S2 (white walkers marching).

I really liked that Sam is sticking it to his haters though, by showing that the dagger he left was one of many.

I feel that if I wait 9 months I'd lose the burning interest in the show, so it's the books for me now. If I time it out I could read them so that I'll catch up with the series just as next season begins, and thus be super hyped for it. Sounds like a great plan.

On June 10 2013 22:27 Sent. wrote:
Arya's lust for vengeance can make her badass but it can also make her insane. I won't be surprised if she starts killing random people for silly reasons in the next season. You can't really expect her to be a completely normal person now.


I don't think even GRRM is sadistic enough to do that to us. I mean, having a Stark character get killed is one thing, having him/her turn evil is x10 worse.

You haven't really been following this show, have you? Arya just looked at that coin and decided she wants to be a merciless killing machine in order to get her vengeance, after committing premeditated murder (stole a knife, got her victim's guard down). That's after she's been chanting a list of those she wants to kill to herself every night until she sleeps.

Her first kill was an accident in self-protection. Her second was out of anger. How long will it be before she kills out of habit?


I don't feel that Arya will ever kill any random person just so that she can kill them. She has extreme discipline (taught by her father and Syrio.) She has a motivation to kill the people she has killed: to save her life (the stable boy) and revenge (the guy by fire.) She will *never* kill randomly for sport.

For sport? No. But if she becomes a Faceless Man, she'll do it for money... and somehow, I don't think that training to be a Faceless Man would require a different kind of discipline: killing someone you don't know without any remorse. And she all but said that she is going to try and become one. Then again, this has been delayed over and over, so maybe it will never happen. But she will never be the "clean kill" type of Ned, Robb, Jon... or even Jaime (who as far as we know only kills for honor, duty or love).

She won't be a sadist like The Mountain, but perhaps more like Bron or Sandor (a person that just likes killing)... unless GRRM will show a Stark some mercy. She's had enough trauma to go all-out psychotic, and is motivated solely by the need to kill for vengeance. She has no family to return to (Bran and Rickon are presumed dead), no home left, and basically, no way I can see for her to lead a life that doesn't end up in pools of blood. At this point, I don't see her being satisfied with Joffrey dying at anyone else's hands.

And I think she would make a really adorable sociopath.

Maybe the episode 9 is making me see things a bit too darkly. But as said, fool me once, shame, shame on you...It fooled me you can't get fooled again. From now on, I am assuming that the only people with honor that will survive will be the ones who would burn the world for it (Stannis).
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
June 10 2013 15:19 GMT
#19813
S2 > S1 > S3 for me so far. It's still good though.
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DaemonX
Profile Joined September 2010
545 Posts
June 10 2013 15:22 GMT
#19814
On June 10 2013 22:57 PerryHooter wrote:
I liked the episode but I agree that the last scene was lackluster, they tried to make it epic but failed to do so. Just compare it to the ending os S1 (dragons born) and S2 (white walkers marching).

I really don't see why people are hatin on this last ep.
It was great. It picked up on sixteen (yes I counted) of the seventeen remaining major plot threads going in the series, had two of the best scenes of a season full of great scenes. What the heck else do you want after Red Wedding?
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
June 10 2013 15:27 GMT
#19815
This episode was actually very well done in terms of foreshadowing and interconnecting values/principles between the different houses. I do agree the ending was cringe worthy though. I was glad they didn't show theons sliced penis in the box I really didn't feel like seeing that xD
Also, not sure if the episode felt wayyyy too happy due to the previous episode being the red wedding, or because it was quite cheery in general.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9297 Posts
June 10 2013 15:30 GMT
#19816
I still don't know how Tywin is going to force Tyrion to have sex with Sansa :D
You're now breathing manually
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
June 10 2013 15:34 GMT
#19817
On June 11 2013 00:30 Sent. wrote:
I still don't know how Tywin is going to force Tyrion to have sex with Sansa :D


he will have shae raped by all the guardsmen and have her killed to teach him a lesson. and varys will be so very sad.
FREEloss_ca
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada603 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 15:42:28
June 10 2013 15:35 GMT
#19818
Everything I expected from a GoT season finale. A couple of scenes could have used a bit more substance, such as the Jaime and Cersei reunion, or Jon Snow returning home. Really enjoyed the Sam and Brann encounter, as well the Small Council meeting.

Jon Snow is going to have some seriously badass scars. Can't wait to see what happens at The Wall next season, especially now that Stannis is in the loop. Will Jon lead the Night's Watch now? Does anyone else think Ygritte purposely hit him in non-lethal places?

A nice observation posted on Reddit: Jon Snow chose duty over love, Robb Stark chose love over duty.

Now to catch up and read the books!
"Starcraft...It just echos brilliance and manliness." - Tasteless
sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
June 10 2013 15:45 GMT
#19819
i though some guy would come up and stab Dany in the back or some shit since its GRRM, well they got me here
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 10 2013 15:47 GMT
#19820
On June 10 2013 23:13 Kazius wrote:
Her first kill was an accident in self-protection. Her second was out of anger. How long will it be before she kills out of habit?


Speaking of which - what happened to her rapier? I remember someone got it when she was captured but I forgot who. I hope she gets it back at some point.
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