EPTHe most certainly didn't say french, it was like 'frushed' or something similar sounding but it wasn't French, that's for sure.
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
He most certainly didn't say french, it was like 'frushed' or something similar sounding but it wasn't French, that's for sure. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
On May 06 2013 14:19 Titusmaster6 wrote: Omg this episode... The climb was simply exhilarating, and dat littlefinger monologue with dat music and those scenes...so perfect. Varys was one of my favorite characters in season 1, but now I'm team littlefinger. Please please PLEASE don't let him die. wtf? little finger's a douchebag. He's just pure scum. -- good episode. the hour goes by so quickly T_T | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
The only character I really wish would just go away is Melisandre. I'm not a big fan of either the character or the actress. She's been a very cookie cutter, one-dimensional evil zealot type, and I thought she was the most forgettable character in all of her scenes again today. (I mean, yes, the prediction with Arya was cool, but just like all of her interactions: they hinge on the other character.) | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On May 06 2013 14:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote: They aren't just Mr. Chaos and Mr. Order. Chaos isn't an ends for Littlefinger, it's a means to "climb the ladder". To label Littlefinger as "evil" is incredibly simplistic. He's selfish, ambitious, and pragmatic. Most (arguably all) people are selfish, and since when has being ambitious or pragmatic been a crime? I don't ever really recall him taking sadistic pleasure in torture like say Joffrey might. Littlefinger just loves playing "the game". Varys isn't Mr. Order either as he pursues his own agenda in what he believes to be best for the realm as a whole, or at the very least the idea of it. If you think that conversation they had was as simple as good vs evil/chaos vs evil, then I'm pretty sure a lot of the deeper meaning and ramifications of what these two men were arguing about just went over your head - or that you just didn't bother you reflect on it much. You fanboys are so brutal. *OBVIOUSLY* Chaos isnt an ends to Littlefinger since they've been telegraphing the fact that he wants to be King for 2 seasons now. That is the point, for a man so supposedly so evily genius his ambition is pretty pedestrian -- and ridiculous since his House will never be allowed to take the Throne. Vary is the *definition* of order because his only goal is to bring as much stability to the realm as possible, no matter who sits on the throne for that to happen. Its even a less logical ambition than LIttlefinger -- who they at least tried to seem like a vengeful prick who wants power not only for the sake of power but as a way of giving the high born a screw you. Varys just walks around, "oh I want order" but why? he is a foreigner so why have any loyalty to Westeros at all? | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
eeewww...that finger thing *shudders* Theres just a part of me thats yearning for happy endings but it doesnt seem like they're coming at all. like theon being released from torture, arya and genry(sorry if i suck at spelling names, already a poor speller) going off on their own way, jamie and the biglady doing the same. ah T_T and now another week... | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Well... guess who's back. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HOz6JSK.gif) | ||
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albis
United States652 Posts
the priest though, lord of light drunk priest is pretty awesome too. speaking in high valarian. ahhh next week already! | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On May 06 2013 14:57 Sub40APM wrote: Vary is the *definition* of order because his only goal is to bring as much stability to the realm as possible, no matter who sits on the throne for that to happen. Its even a less logical ambition than LIttlefinger -- who they at least tried to seem like a vengeful prick who wants power not only for the sake of power but as a way of giving the high born a screw you. Varys just walks around, "oh I want order" but why? he is a foreigner so why have any loyalty to Westeros at all? Why does wanting order necessarily have to have anything at all to do with being loyal to Westeros? Maybe he wants what he thinks is best for Westeros, i.e., order, because he likes the position he is currently in and the associated comforts? Chaos certainly has a chance at disrupting that for him. | ||
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Arghmyliver
United States1081 Posts
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
It's like they forgot to CGI them or something. xD | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On May 06 2013 14:57 Sub40APM wrote: You fanboys are so brutal. *OBVIOUSLY* Chaos isnt an ends to Littlefinger since they've been telegraphing the fact that he wants to be King for 2 seasons now. That is the point, for a man so supposedly so evily genius his ambition is pretty pedestrian -- and ridiculous since his House will never be allowed to take the Throne. Vary is the *definition* of order because his only goal is to bring as much stability to the realm as possible, no matter who sits on the throne for that to happen. Its even a less logical ambition than LIttlefinger -- who they at least tried to seem like a vengeful prick who wants power not only for the sake of power but as a way of giving the high born a screw you. Varys just walks around, "oh I want order" but why? he is a foreigner so why have any loyalty to Westeros at all? You can call me a fanboy all day yet you've still failed to explain how Littlefinger is evil and namecalling isn't going to do it for you. They said a man of birth as low as Littlefinger's would never be a lord either, let alone marry into the head of the family of a great house. Littlefinger's ambitions as we know them aren't ridiculous, they're just extreme. Who sits on the iron throne is a crucial variable to stability in the realm, assuming that is really all he cares about, so I wouldn't necessarily say it doesn't matter to Varys who sits on it. We know from last episode that Varys urged king Aerys to not open the gates to Tywin's Lannister host during Robert's Rebellion, which would have inevitably meant months, if not years of more warfare and instability instead of the hasty peace that resulted from Twyin's sacking of King's Landing and the uprooting of the Targaryen dynasty from power. He wanted to keep Aerys on the throne for reasons I know not, even though he was clearly mad and a terrible king who caused nothing but chaos - something that generally isn't regarded as "good for the realm". It isn't as simple as order vs chaos. How is fighting for peace and stability not logical? About why Varys would have any loyalty to Westeros at all - I don't know if that's been directly answered or addressed yet in the show, but if you use your brain I'm sure you can theorize some reasonable possibilities. But if you don't want to use your brain at all and just want everything spoonfed to you, I can see how you would be upset about this show. | ||
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Arghmyliver
United States1081 Posts
On May 06 2013 15:44 Gosi wrote: Where did the other 2 guys go that came up to the wall first in the last picture when Jon Snow and Ygritte were looking south of the wall as the camera was zooming out lol? They were there setting up gear and stuff when Jon and Ygritte came up and then suddenly it was nothing there except that wooden cross thingy when they were on their feet and turned around to look south. It's like they forgot to CGI them or something. xD The redhead is so hot that she melted the wall beneath their feet. They will not appear in subsequent episodes. | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On May 06 2013 14:33 Hitch-22 wrote: He most certainly didn't say french, it was like 'frushed' or something similar sounding but it wasn't French, that's for sure. He said fringed sleeves. Fringed. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
I really hope that's the case. If it was actually "French", it would probably be the single biggest fuck-up in the entire show lol. Not that it would have any plot-related ramifications at least. | ||
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SayGen
United States1209 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
On May 06 2013 14:33 Hitch-22 wrote: He most certainly didn't say french, it was like 'frushed' or something similar sounding but it wasn't French, that's for sure. It was "fringed sleeves". Edit: Im about 3 posts late... zzz Anyways, episode was fine. You can definitely tell theyre in the long haul for GoT seasons. And theyre executing it pretty well. The only scenes that I cannot bear are the Sam scenes. That guy just needs to die already. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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SayGen
United States1209 Posts
On May 06 2013 16:08 Emnjay808 wrote: It was "fringed sleeves". Edit: Im about 3 posts late... zzz Anyways, episode was fine. You can definitely tell theyre in the long haul for GoT seasons. And theyre executing it pretty well. The only scenes that I cannot bear are the Sam scenes. That guy just needs to die already. I know they are going for the 'meek hero' play with Sam, but your right. He needs to just die. Stop providing him with a love interest and kill him off. | ||
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animagne
United Kingdom47 Posts
On May 06 2013 15:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Who sits on the iron throne is a crucial variable to stability in the realm, assuming that is really all he cares about, so I wouldn't necessarily say it doesn't matter to Varys who sits on it. His allegiance lies with Targaryens (Season 1, Episode 5, Arya hears Varys talking with Illyrio Mopatis about getting back Targaryens on the Iron Throne and that Stark and Lannister war is going to happen too early for their plan to succeed), so I think that it matters quite a lot who is the king (Joffrey is considerably easier to deal with than Stannis or even Robb) and that realm doesn't end the war and drag it out through the winter until Daenerys is ready. All this keeping order thing is only the act, order can only be reached by reinstating the true royal bloodline. | ||
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