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politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
April 15 2013 05:54 GMT
#13261
On April 15 2013 14:02 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 13:46 plogamer wrote:
On April 15 2013 12:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Fuck yeah Blackfish! He's very well done in this show, especially with the opening scene.

Kind of a weak ep though

+ Show Spoiler +

The acting was superb. The actors' facial expressions matching their griefs. Arya separating from a friend, and Lady Catelyn's loss of her father and her two sons.

The realistic portrayal of rape was chilling - the way Brienne was screaming at the top of her lungs, or the way Theon pled woefully against it.

The way Podrick is rewarded for his service .. well, it doesn't need to be said. Fuckin' awesome, literally. I suspect that the whores were secretly instructed to return the gold, to boost Pod's confidence. The way they acted overly surprised was pretty suspicious, especially when they asked for details.

And of course, the ending with Roose Bolton cutting off Jaime's hand. Epic acting skills, the look of surprise on Jaime was perfectly done.

The overarching theme was manipulation - with Robb trying to manipulate the Mountain into a trap, but Edmund blotches the plan by being impatient; was for justice. Tyrion manipulating Pod to help him become more confident, an act of gratitude and goodwill. Vargo pretending to be on Jaime's side; manipulating for pure pleasure of it.

And that's pretty much off the top of my head - I did have to look up some names like Vargo and Podrick, for Pod.

FUCKING AWESOME EPISODE


I'm pretty sure that's a new character, not Roose Bolton. From my understanding Roose Bolton is the guy that said to Rob in the first episode "I have my best hunter after [Jamie]".


It's Roose Bolton's bastard son.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 15 2013 05:58 GMT
#13262
On April 15 2013 10:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Now we have Brutus, too bad Marc Anthony isn't part of the cast.

Forget about Marc Anythony, bring in Pullo and Vorenus!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 15 2013 06:05 GMT
#13263
Really great episode. Think it's been too long since that "anything can happen" feel.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 15 2013 06:07 GMT
#13264
On April 15 2013 14:54 politik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 14:02 TheDougler wrote:
On April 15 2013 13:46 plogamer wrote:
On April 15 2013 12:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Fuck yeah Blackfish! He's very well done in this show, especially with the opening scene.

Kind of a weak ep though

+ Show Spoiler +

The acting was superb. The actors' facial expressions matching their griefs. Arya separating from a friend, and Lady Catelyn's loss of her father and her two sons.

The realistic portrayal of rape was chilling - the way Brienne was screaming at the top of her lungs, or the way Theon pled woefully against it.

The way Podrick is rewarded for his service .. well, it doesn't need to be said. Fuckin' awesome, literally. I suspect that the whores were secretly instructed to return the gold, to boost Pod's confidence. The way they acted overly surprised was pretty suspicious, especially when they asked for details.

And of course, the ending with Roose Bolton cutting off Jaime's hand. Epic acting skills, the look of surprise on Jaime was perfectly done.

The overarching theme was manipulation - with Robb trying to manipulate the Mountain into a trap, but Edmund blotches the plan by being impatient; was for justice. Tyrion manipulating Pod to help him become more confident, an act of gratitude and goodwill. Vargo pretending to be on Jaime's side; manipulating for pure pleasure of it.

And that's pretty much off the top of my head - I did have to look up some names like Vargo and Podrick, for Pod.

FUCKING AWESOME EPISODE


I'm pretty sure that's a new character, not Roose Bolton. From my understanding Roose Bolton is the guy that said to Rob in the first episode "I have my best hunter after [Jamie]".


It's Roose Bolton's bastard son.

Its not, he sent his bastard to Winterfell, but his bastard has not has not been introduced to TV viewers other than that. Locke is the name of the dude who chops Jamie's hand off.
TLHP
Profile Joined October 2011
Vietnam52 Posts
April 15 2013 06:08 GMT
#13265
Another great scene of Cat @Riverrun, so emotional :x
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3066 Posts
April 15 2013 06:09 GMT
#13266
holy fuck jamie's hand. i hope he gets a claw at the end of it now!
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 15 2013 06:15 GMT
#13267
Game of Thrones is a great show and this is was great episode. But there is an inextricable march of plot that can be tiring. There's something depressing about so many good performances that get these 2 minute window to develop their characters. If you combine all of Cirian Hinds scenes as Mance Rayder, do we maybe 200 words of dialogue? I watched Mad Men right after this, it's a stark (kekekeke) difference in character development.

DB Weiss and David Benioff are nothing if not slaves to the novels. For both good and bad.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 15 2013 06:19 GMT
#13268
On April 15 2013 15:15 slyboogie wrote:
Game of Thrones is a great show and this is was great episode. But there is an inextricable march of plot that can be tiring. There's something depressing about so many good performances that get these 2 minute window to develop their characters. If you combine all of Cirian Hinds scenes as Mance Rayder, do we maybe 200 words of dialogue? I watched Mad Men right after this, it's a stark (kekekeke) difference in character development.

DB Weiss and David Benioff are nothing if not slaves to the novels. For both good and bad.

Mad Men has 4-6 different actors. Don, Peggy, Pete, and Roger. Everyone else is just their hanger on.
Game of Thrones has literally three times as many main characters and then their respective hangers on. Totally different.
But I agree that as the different people continue to do different things, the show will inevitably continue this 2 minutes for everyone stuff and it deteriorates in quality simply because there are too many great characters with great lines and most of them wont get shown.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3066 Posts
April 15 2013 06:22 GMT
#13269
On April 15 2013 15:19 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 15:15 slyboogie wrote:
Game of Thrones is a great show and this is was great episode. But there is an inextricable march of plot that can be tiring. There's something depressing about so many good performances that get these 2 minute window to develop their characters. If you combine all of Cirian Hinds scenes as Mance Rayder, do we maybe 200 words of dialogue? I watched Mad Men right after this, it's a stark (kekekeke) difference in character development.

DB Weiss and David Benioff are nothing if not slaves to the novels. For both good and bad.

Mad Men has 4-6 different actors. Don, Peggy, Pete, and Roger. Everyone else is just their hanger on.
Game of Thrones has literally three times as many main characters and then their respective hangers on. Totally different.
But I agree that as the different people continue to do different things, the show will inevitably continue this 2 minutes for everyone stuff and it deteriorates in quality simply because there are too many great characters with great lines and most of them wont get shown.


well, characters need to meet up so we have less locations to follow, tbh. i think it will happen eventually. just think we're in a time of transition. maybe not.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 15 2013 06:23 GMT
#13270
On April 15 2013 15:19 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 15:15 slyboogie wrote:
Game of Thrones is a great show and this is was great episode. But there is an inextricable march of plot that can be tiring. There's something depressing about so many good performances that get these 2 minute window to develop their characters. If you combine all of Cirian Hinds scenes as Mance Rayder, do we maybe 200 words of dialogue? I watched Mad Men right after this, it's a stark (kekekeke) difference in character development.

DB Weiss and David Benioff are nothing if not slaves to the novels. For both good and bad.

Mad Men has 4-6 different actors. Don, Peggy, Pete, and Roger. Everyone else is just their hanger on.
Game of Thrones has literally three times as many main characters and then their respective hangers on. Totally different.
But I agree that as the different people continue to do different things, the show will inevitably continue this 2 minutes for everyone stuff and it deteriorates in quality simply because there are too many great characters with great lines and most of them wont get shown.


Yeah, I wasn't saying I wanted Game of Thrones to be Mad Men. I don't have that expectation, it's a different story. I'm not even sure that Game of Thrones will suffer in quality.

I just wanted to say that it's interesting how two very quality shows (Mad Men the superior of the two from a television perspective,) can be very different. You might say that Mad Men has the tendency to get too introspective and burdened with second meaning - this can get as exhausting as watching dudes ride around on horses in the north, the in the south, then across the ocean - it's just different.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 15 2013 06:35 GMT
#13271
I was just saying that the reason you feel that way is because Mad Men can afford to devote 10-30 minutes per major character. Imagine how youd feel about mad men if Don or Roger only had as much time on as Kenny.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 15 2013 06:35 GMT
#13272
On April 15 2013 14:22 .kv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 13:11 crms wrote:
khaleesi better not actually give away a dragon or I will be seriously disappointed. Other than that, great episode, I love this show!


she's not that dumb

im sure that dude will be killed b/c of his methods (mothers getting slaughtered in front of their kids erase emotion and all that other stuff)

"all men should die but not women" or something like that is what she said

No, the girl said Valar Morgulis (or something similar) which means "All men must die". Dany translates it for viewers and add to it "Yes, but not women".
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
April 15 2013 06:37 GMT
#13273
God that song came from no where hahah, I had no idea that was actually meant to be in the show until I recognized the lyrics.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 15 2013 06:48 GMT
#13274
On April 15 2013 15:35 Sub40APM wrote:
I was just saying that the reason you feel that way is because Mad Men can afford to devote 10-30 minutes per major character. Imagine how youd feel about mad men if Don or Roger only had as much time on as Kenny.


Yes, of course. That was my point. The creators of Game of Thrones clearly want to push their plot forward - this is why there's so much exposition in the form of speeches and people walking to other places, and also they like to sprinkle in fan service. This is fine, of course, but it makes the scenes like Catelyn's contemplation disappointingly rare.

The immediate response is, "They only have 10 episodes and 50 minutes per episode." But that's the showrunner's job. Stannis is broken because he lost a battle 5 episodes ago. We've seen him for maybe 5 minutes. Where's his rumination? Where's his smoldering? We can't get a lot of that - all we know about him is that he's stubborn, driven and slightly off kilter. Everything else is left to the actor to convey in his time on screen - which, as we already noted, is scarce.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 07:28:55
April 15 2013 07:28 GMT
#13275
Great episode and big wtf moment for the credits but I'm happy to be able to put aside my knowledge of the books. If I was a rabid fan I'd probably get frustrated so many stuff are different.

Gladly, I'm able to enjoy both. I wonder sometimes however if the show is not a bit too hard to follow without any book knowledge with all those characters and names thrown without a lot of exposition.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
i99
Profile Joined February 2012
United States362 Posts
April 15 2013 07:35 GMT
#13276
On April 15 2013 15:37 TechNoTrance wrote:
God that song came from no where hahah, I had no idea that was actually meant to be in the show until I recognized the lyrics.



I literally thought it was a rick roll from the person who uploaded the video that I watched it from
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
April 15 2013 07:39 GMT
#13277
that ending song...

now i really want to see jaime get revenge or something, i mean the dude's been chained up for the whole damn show and he's supposed to be one of the sickest fighters
and my axe
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 13:54:45
April 15 2013 07:39 GMT
#13278
MOD EDIT: Removed book spoilers

User was temp banned for this post.
ixzenxi
Profile Joined December 2012
United States138 Posts
April 15 2013 07:41 GMT
#13279
On April 15 2013 15:35 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 14:22 .kv wrote:
On April 15 2013 13:11 crms wrote:
khaleesi better not actually give away a dragon or I will be seriously disappointed. Other than that, great episode, I love this show!


she's not that dumb

im sure that dude will be killed b/c of his methods (mothers getting slaughtered in front of their kids erase emotion and all that other stuff)

"all men should die but not women" or something like that is what she said

No, the girl said Valar Morgulis (or something similar) which means "All men must die". Dany translates it for viewers and add to it "Yes, but not women".

She doesn't say that.

Girl: Valar Morghulis
Dany: Yes, all men must die
Dany: But we are not men.
Girl: *smiles*

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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
April 15 2013 07:41 GMT
#13280
omg i could not believe my eyes when they cut of jamies hand a serious WTF moment! and i was already feeling sick by the prospect of Brienne being raped ;_; and to think i was chuckling a few moments ago with the tyrion and pod scene
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
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