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politik
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On April 15 2013 14:02 TheDougler wrote: I'm pretty sure that's a new character, not Roose Bolton. From my understanding Roose Bolton is the guy that said to Rob in the first episode "I have my best hunter after [Jamie]". It's Roose Bolton's bastard son. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On April 15 2013 10:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Now we have Brutus, too bad Marc Anthony isn't part of the cast. Forget about Marc Anythony, bring in Pullo and Vorenus! | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
Its not, he sent his bastard to Winterfell, but his bastard has not has not been introduced to TV viewers other than that. Locke is the name of the dude who chops Jamie's hand off. | ||
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TLHP
Vietnam52 Posts
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RogerChillingworth
2944 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
DB Weiss and David Benioff are nothing if not slaves to the novels. For both good and bad. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On April 15 2013 15:15 slyboogie wrote: Game of Thrones is a great show and this is was great episode. But there is an inextricable march of plot that can be tiring. There's something depressing about so many good performances that get these 2 minute window to develop their characters. If you combine all of Cirian Hinds scenes as Mance Rayder, do we maybe 200 words of dialogue? I watched Mad Men right after this, it's a stark (kekekeke) difference in character development. DB Weiss and David Benioff are nothing if not slaves to the novels. For both good and bad. Mad Men has 4-6 different actors. Don, Peggy, Pete, and Roger. Everyone else is just their hanger on. Game of Thrones has literally three times as many main characters and then their respective hangers on. Totally different. But I agree that as the different people continue to do different things, the show will inevitably continue this 2 minutes for everyone stuff and it deteriorates in quality simply because there are too many great characters with great lines and most of them wont get shown. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
2944 Posts
On April 15 2013 15:19 Sub40APM wrote: Mad Men has 4-6 different actors. Don, Peggy, Pete, and Roger. Everyone else is just their hanger on. Game of Thrones has literally three times as many main characters and then their respective hangers on. Totally different. But I agree that as the different people continue to do different things, the show will inevitably continue this 2 minutes for everyone stuff and it deteriorates in quality simply because there are too many great characters with great lines and most of them wont get shown. well, characters need to meet up so we have less locations to follow, tbh. i think it will happen eventually. just think we're in a time of transition. maybe not. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On April 15 2013 15:19 Sub40APM wrote: Mad Men has 4-6 different actors. Don, Peggy, Pete, and Roger. Everyone else is just their hanger on. Game of Thrones has literally three times as many main characters and then their respective hangers on. Totally different. But I agree that as the different people continue to do different things, the show will inevitably continue this 2 minutes for everyone stuff and it deteriorates in quality simply because there are too many great characters with great lines and most of them wont get shown. Yeah, I wasn't saying I wanted Game of Thrones to be Mad Men. I don't have that expectation, it's a different story. I'm not even sure that Game of Thrones will suffer in quality. I just wanted to say that it's interesting how two very quality shows (Mad Men the superior of the two from a television perspective,) can be very different. You might say that Mad Men has the tendency to get too introspective and burdened with second meaning - this can get as exhausting as watching dudes ride around on horses in the north, the in the south, then across the ocean - it's just different. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 15 2013 14:22 .kv wrote: she's not that dumb im sure that dude will be killed b/c of his methods (mothers getting slaughtered in front of their kids erase emotion and all that other stuff) "all men should die but not women" or something like that is what she said No, the girl said Valar Morgulis (or something similar) which means "All men must die". Dany translates it for viewers and add to it "Yes, but not women". | ||
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On April 15 2013 15:35 Sub40APM wrote: I was just saying that the reason you feel that way is because Mad Men can afford to devote 10-30 minutes per major character. Imagine how youd feel about mad men if Don or Roger only had as much time on as Kenny. Yes, of course. That was my point. The creators of Game of Thrones clearly want to push their plot forward - this is why there's so much exposition in the form of speeches and people walking to other places, and also they like to sprinkle in fan service. This is fine, of course, but it makes the scenes like Catelyn's contemplation disappointingly rare. The immediate response is, "They only have 10 episodes and 50 minutes per episode." But that's the showrunner's job. Stannis is broken because he lost a battle 5 episodes ago. We've seen him for maybe 5 minutes. Where's his rumination? Where's his smoldering? We can't get a lot of that - all we know about him is that he's stubborn, driven and slightly off kilter. Everything else is left to the actor to convey in his time on screen - which, as we already noted, is scarce. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
Gladly, I'm able to enjoy both. I wonder sometimes however if the show is not a bit too hard to follow without any book knowledge with all those characters and names thrown without a lot of exposition. | ||
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i99
United States362 Posts
On April 15 2013 15:37 TechNoTrance wrote: God that song came from no where hahah, I had no idea that was actually meant to be in the show until I recognized the lyrics. I literally thought it was a rick roll from the person who uploaded the video that I watched it from | ||
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13JackaL
United States577 Posts
now i really want to see jaime get revenge or something, i mean the dude's been chained up for the whole damn show and he's supposed to be one of the sickest fighters | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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ixzenxi
United States138 Posts
On April 15 2013 15:35 -Archangel- wrote: No, the girl said Valar Morgulis (or something similar) which means "All men must die". Dany translates it for viewers and add to it "Yes, but not women". She doesn't say that. Girl: Valar Morghulis Dany: Yes, all men must die Dany: But we are not men. Girl: *smiles* ![[image loading]](http://i46.tinypic.com/2j6ae6h.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i47.tinypic.com/25t86y9.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i46.tinypic.com/96vqlh.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i45.tinypic.com/v75e2a.jpg) | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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