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shinyA
Profile Joined November 2008
United States473 Posts
June 04 2012 06:17 GMT
#11341
story line hardly moved, this was a bad finale...

they should have just tacked on the Jon Snow portion and the Others to the end of episode 9 and it would have made a FAR better finale.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 04 2012 06:24 GMT
#11342
All I can say about this episode and this whole season is: Go read the books people, this show is so much weaker then the books it can be considered bad fan fiction.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 06:27:14
June 04 2012 06:27 GMT
#11343
On June 04 2012 14:56 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 14:49 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Confusing bits:

- Dany has all her dothraki people back again? Why didn't they show up with her on the trip to the warlock tower?
- Where is the Hound? More than wondering about Bronn, I thought it was somewhat implied that Sansa was going to make a run out with the Hound no?
- Who razed Winterfell? If Robb's man's bastard was retaking it, why would it be burning - if Theon's men burnt it after knocking him out, how could they take the 'leave with your life' deal?

Other than that, it was a great episode.

Well I don't know if the group looting where all that many. She did show up to Qarth with a handful people, but hardly saw them this season.
The Hound presumably left based on his plans on the previous episode, but there really was no mention of him that I caught. I thought the last episode perhaps left it hanging, but Sansa was rather adamant about staying.

Presumably, Theon's men burned it, but they didn't explain how they left. Perhaps they used the tunnels? But it wasn't very well explained. Particularly as there was a besieging force there as well, so did Bran and co walk invisibly through the sieging force which you would have thought would've occupied Winterfell by now. So then why would Bran leave if Winterfell was secured? Did the entire besieging force race off after Theon's men to leave Winterfell defenceless again? That part made no sense to me at all.

This is easy. Robb said to Bolton to offer the ironborn freedom if they give up Theon. Then we are shown Winterfell is surrounded, and ironborn knock Theon out. 1+1=2
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
June 04 2012 06:28 GMT
#11344
On June 04 2012 15:24 -Archangel- wrote:
All I can say about this episode and this whole season is: Go read the books people, this show is so much weaker then the books it can be considered bad fan fiction.


If this forum had a like function I would like your post. The season finale was underwhelming compared to the books. And not because the show left things out, but because the show CHANGED things for the worst. The books just simply tell a better story.
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ZergCacique
Profile Joined July 2011
United States28 Posts
June 04 2012 06:33 GMT
#11345
I can tell the production value of season 2 is under compare to season 1. Its like any of HBO series they do.I'm suprised they greenlited season 3 and 4, the viewership is there also they spend all the the budget of season 2 on the last two episode of the season, i dont know what this means, maybe those boats were a million dollars shipes each. the best part was with Tyrion and Ashe?


The sacking of winterfell and not telling who sack it was pretty fucking stupid.
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 06:38:59
June 04 2012 06:33 GMT
#11346
On June 04 2012 15:27 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 14:56 Falling wrote:
On June 04 2012 14:49 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Confusing bits:

- Dany has all her dothraki people back again? Why didn't they show up with her on the trip to the warlock tower?
- Where is the Hound? More than wondering about Bronn, I thought it was somewhat implied that Sansa was going to make a run out with the Hound no?
- Who razed Winterfell? If Robb's man's bastard was retaking it, why would it be burning - if Theon's men burnt it after knocking him out, how could they take the 'leave with your life' deal?

Other than that, it was a great episode.

Well I don't know if the group looting where all that many. She did show up to Qarth with a handful people, but hardly saw them this season.
The Hound presumably left based on his plans on the previous episode, but there really was no mention of him that I caught. I thought the last episode perhaps left it hanging, but Sansa was rather adamant about staying.

Presumably, Theon's men burned it, but they didn't explain how they left. Perhaps they used the tunnels? But it wasn't very well explained. Particularly as there was a besieging force there as well, so did Bran and co walk invisibly through the sieging force which you would have thought would've occupied Winterfell by now. So then why would Bran leave if Winterfell was secured? Did the entire besieging force race off after Theon's men to leave Winterfell defenceless again? That part made no sense to me at all.

This is easy. Robb said to Bolton to offer the ironborn freedom if they give up Theon. Then we are shown Winterfell is surrounded, and ironborn knock Theon out. 1+1=2


Doesn't really explain why they didn't leave a single man behind to keep Winterfell, if they had 500. Or why they would let the Ironborns burn the city and then just surrender 'Hey guys we fucked up your 'capitol' but we surrender now, here is Theon'.

Edit: About the 2nd part, I guess they didn't want to go against the word of Robb, but they probably would have moved in to attack if they didn't see any signs of surrender?
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 04 2012 06:35 GMT
#11347
On June 04 2012 15:24 -Archangel- wrote:
All I can say about this episode and this whole season is: Go read the books people, this show is so much weaker then the books it can be considered bad fan fiction.


you were banned less than a month ago for starting up book vs tv show debate in this thread. don't do it again.
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SKDN
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden243 Posts
June 04 2012 06:55 GMT
#11348
faceless man is awesome!
Was I the only one expecting some kind of saw thing at the house of undying and I dont get why the queen wants to kill the dwarf?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 04 2012 06:57 GMT
#11349
On June 04 2012 15:33 OminouS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 15:27 -Archangel- wrote:
On June 04 2012 14:56 Falling wrote:
On June 04 2012 14:49 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Confusing bits:

- Dany has all her dothraki people back again? Why didn't they show up with her on the trip to the warlock tower?
- Where is the Hound? More than wondering about Bronn, I thought it was somewhat implied that Sansa was going to make a run out with the Hound no?
- Who razed Winterfell? If Robb's man's bastard was retaking it, why would it be burning - if Theon's men burnt it after knocking him out, how could they take the 'leave with your life' deal?

Other than that, it was a great episode.

Well I don't know if the group looting where all that many. She did show up to Qarth with a handful people, but hardly saw them this season.
The Hound presumably left based on his plans on the previous episode, but there really was no mention of him that I caught. I thought the last episode perhaps left it hanging, but Sansa was rather adamant about staying.

Presumably, Theon's men burned it, but they didn't explain how they left. Perhaps they used the tunnels? But it wasn't very well explained. Particularly as there was a besieging force there as well, so did Bran and co walk invisibly through the sieging force which you would have thought would've occupied Winterfell by now. So then why would Bran leave if Winterfell was secured? Did the entire besieging force race off after Theon's men to leave Winterfell defenceless again? That part made no sense to me at all.

This is easy. Robb said to Bolton to offer the ironborn freedom if they give up Theon. Then we are shown Winterfell is surrounded, and ironborn knock Theon out. 1+1=2


Doesn't really explain why they didn't leave a single man behind to keep Winterfell, if they had 500. Or why they would let the Ironborns burn the city and then just surrender 'Hey guys we fucked up your 'capitol' but we surrender now, here is Theon'.

Edit: About the 2nd part, I guess they didn't want to go against the word of Robb, but they probably would have moved in to attack if they didn't see any signs of surrender?

If I tried to answer your other questions I would need to spoil things for you :D
Either work out answers to your other questions by yourself or wait for Season 3
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 06:57:34
June 04 2012 06:57 GMT
#11350
The Dany scenes were good except I was really unimpressed by the dragon fire part, it was so awkward looking.

And I didn't quite understand the Winterfell part. They sacked the keep and just left, while they were surrounded? I assume Theon was the bargaining chip, but how do they get away with burning everything?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 06:59:51
June 04 2012 06:59 GMT
#11351
On June 04 2012 15:55 SKDN wrote:
faceless man is awesome!
Was I the only one expecting some kind of saw thing at the house of undying and I dont get why the queen wants to kill the dwarf?

Didn't she explain that herself in one of the episodes? Her mother died when she was giving birth to Tyrion. Then Tyrion sent her daughter to Dorn and she thinks he wanted to send Joffrey to fight outside the walls so he dies as well.

As far as she is concerned she was just protecting her children
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 04 2012 07:00 GMT
#11352
On June 04 2012 15:35 Zelniq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 15:24 -Archangel- wrote:
All I can say about this episode and this whole season is: Go read the books people, this show is so much weaker then the books it can be considered bad fan fiction.


you were banned less than a month ago for starting up book vs tv show debate in this thread. don't do it again.

I am not spoiling anything, I just think nonbook readers deserve to know they can get a more complete and better story in the books.
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 07:03:28
June 04 2012 07:02 GMT
#11353
I guess the Winterfell part will be explained next season. Just being greedy. Is it 6 months or a year till season 3?
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 04 2012 07:03 GMT
#11354
On June 04 2012 16:00 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 15:35 Zelniq wrote:
On June 04 2012 15:24 -Archangel- wrote:
All I can say about this episode and this whole season is: Go read the books people, this show is so much weaker then the books it can be considered bad fan fiction.


you were banned less than a month ago for starting up book vs tv show debate in this thread. don't do it again.

I am not spoiling anything, I just think nonbook readers deserve to know they can get a more complete and better story in the books.


For real, more power to us. But Proleague is on atm... professional televised Brood War!
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holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
June 04 2012 07:05 GMT
#11355
And I also thought the 3 Northern soldiers laughing at Brien was kind of a stupid scene. The point and laugh gig just seems super fake. No one does that.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 04 2012 07:10 GMT
#11356
On June 04 2012 16:05 holdthephone wrote:
And I also thought the 3 Northern soldiers laughing at Brien was kind of a stupid scene. The point and laugh gig just seems super fake. No one does that.


Seemed pretty normal to me...dashes of deception and bullying.
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Goatlust88
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia69 Posts
June 04 2012 07:26 GMT
#11357
On June 04 2012 16:05 holdthephone wrote:
And I also thought the 3 Northern soldiers laughing at Brien was kind of a stupid scene. The point and laugh gig just seems super fake. No one does that.

Keep in mind these guys are in a really powerful and destructive crowd mentality. You would have to be to slaughter villagers and hang those women like they had recently done. They are acting like complete assholes because this is the mindset they have driven themselves into. They probably feel like they are kings of the world after exhibiting power over the villagers they have slain or mistreated and felt justified in treating two strangers like shit.
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
June 04 2012 07:27 GMT
#11358
On June 04 2012 15:55 SKDN wrote:
faceless man is awesome!
Was I the only one expecting some kind of saw thing at the house of undying and I dont get why the queen wants to kill the dwarf?


I'm guessing it has to do with their limited budget. The thing between Cersei and Tyrion seems to be a sibling rivalry, but it was never made clear whether someone did actually come to kill Tyrion in the night. Remember that his squire is also a spy for Varys so it could all be a trick to get him out of King's landing. All in all, I thought it was hilarious when Tyrion woke up in some tiny room/closet and that Maester smirking at him.

Can anyone explain the deal with the Faceless man? How can they can they change faces? I'm leaning towards it being a mask because the assassin did always have the same expression. Either that or he was in some zen state the whole time.
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
June 04 2012 07:30 GMT
#11359
Winter is coming!
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 07:33:25
June 04 2012 07:32 GMT
#11360
On June 04 2012 16:27 craz3d wrote:
Can anyone explain the deal with the Faceless man? How can they can they change faces? I'm leaning towards it being a mask because the assassin did always have the same expression. Either that or he was in some zen state the whole time.

Can I say to this... um... magic? It is a fantasy series, though they tend to let you forget about it.

Also, the best line added from the books to the series so far: "thank you, wise bald man".
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