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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
June 16 2011 23:49 GMT
#5041
On June 17 2011 08:41 Cylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 08:40 Babaganoush wrote:
How exactly do I feel about Tyrion?

On one hand, he's part of the Lannisters, the House I so greatly despise...
On the other hand, he seems like he's just a guy who gets picked on all the time by his own family...

I don't know if he's evil.. good.. or whatever.

If you were putting it in a spectrum, Ned Stark was obviously "Lawful Good" but what of Tyrion?


Chaotic neutral.


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Toadily
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States837 Posts
June 17 2011 00:03 GMT
#5042
Tyrion is more good than you guys give him credit for, nowhere near lawful though.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
June 17 2011 00:25 GMT
#5043
He always pays his debts and honors all his agreements, which keeps him from being chaotic imo. I agree that he does lots of good actions and nothing particularly evil, but if he has to choose between helping others and helping himself, the latter will win every time. Same with maintaining peace and order. I agree with True Neutral.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
June 17 2011 00:50 GMT
#5044
I wish they touched more upon just how badass the Kingsguard of old was. Barristan Selmy, even in his old age (he's like almost 60?), is one of the greatest fighters currently in the realm, and he wasn't even one of the more renowned Kingsguard members back in his prime.

Of Robert/Joffrey's Kingsguard, only Barristan and Jaime are worthy skill-wise of the position, and Jaime's nickname itself shows why he is a less-than-ideal Kingsguard member.
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itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
June 17 2011 00:53 GMT
#5045
Man, this last episode was so kick ass.
Robb is a stud.
I thought it was better that they actually didn't show the battle. The preparation for the war, and the aftermath of the battle were so awesome to watch.
=)=
SpectralFremen
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia386 Posts
June 17 2011 01:35 GMT
#5046
I really like Robb's actor. Portrays him pretty much exactly the way I always imagined him.
How different is life these days (i know GoT isn't real but its based on the high middle ages which was real), at 18 (16?) commanding armies and the respect of hardened veterans. These days you'd be winging about having to do your homework hahaha.
"And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere"
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 02:33:20
June 17 2011 02:32 GMT
#5047
On June 17 2011 08:41 Cylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 08:40 Babaganoush wrote:
How exactly do I feel about Tyrion?

On one hand, he's part of the Lannisters, the House I so greatly despise...
On the other hand, he seems like he's just a guy who gets picked on all the time by his own family...

I don't know if he's evil.. good.. or whatever.

If you were putting it in a spectrum, Ned Stark was obviously "Lawful Good" but what of Tyrion?


Chaotic neutral.


This was interesting to me, so I went ahead and started listing all the characters (all according to the show) by alignment lol

Lawful Good: Ned, Robb, Jon, Sansa?, Barristan

Neutral Good: Catelyn, Renly?, Bran?, Daenerys?

Chaotic Good: Arya, Robert?

Lawful Neutral: Stannis, the Hound?

True Neutral: Varys, Tyrion?

Chaotic Neutral: Jaime, Theon?, Bronn?

Lawful Evil: Tywin, Joffrey

Neutral Evil: Cersei, Littlefinger

Chaotic Evil: Viserys, the Mountain
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 03:02:28
June 17 2011 02:45 GMT
#5048
Tempted to buy the books how much for the whole series ?
what site should i go to buy online etc im a noob at buying books
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Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 03:07:21
June 17 2011 03:06 GMT
#5049
On June 17 2011 11:45 desrow wrote:
Tempted to buy the books how much for the whole series ?
what site should i go to buy online etc im a noob at buying books

http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=pd_ts_zgc_b_books_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&pf_rd_p=1297440222&pf_rd_s=right-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=507846&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=00GJZA8KZJ067R9SAKGR

You'd be stupid not to buy it. Thats literally almost pocket change. ;P

EDIT:
Oh, ur Canadian. I got this:
http://www.amazon.ca/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1308280006&sr=8-3

A bit more expensive cuase here in Canada we love to pay more. Since its over 25 bucks, you dont pay shipping. So I guess it adds up to near the same. . .
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 03:10:26
June 17 2011 03:09 GMT
#5050
On June 17 2011 12:06 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 11:45 desrow wrote:
Tempted to buy the books how much for the whole series ?
what site should i go to buy online etc im a noob at buying books

http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=pd_ts_zgc_b_books_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&pf_rd_p=1297440222&pf_rd_s=right-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=507846&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=00GJZA8KZJ067R9SAKGR

You'd be stupid not to buy it. Thats literally almost pocket change. ;P

EDIT:
Oh, ur Canadian. I got this:
http://www.amazon.ca/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1308280006&sr=8-3

A bit more expensive cuase here in Canada we love to pay more. Since its over 25 bucks, you dont pay shipping. So I guess it adds up to near the same. . .


I bought that a week ago and so far I'm loving the first book (about 200/800 pgs done), great deal though - first four books for under 20 bucks and I got free shipping too.

I might read the second book before the second season and then compare which method I like more to decide whether I should read book 3 and on or wait for the TV shows on those.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
June 17 2011 03:50 GMT
#5051
On June 17 2011 12:06 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 11:45 desrow wrote:
Tempted to buy the books how much for the whole series ?
what site should i go to buy online etc im a noob at buying books

http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=pd_ts_zgc_b_books_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&pf_rd_p=1297440222&pf_rd_s=right-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=507846&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=00GJZA8KZJ067R9SAKGR

You'd be stupid not to buy it. Thats literally almost pocket change. ;P

EDIT:
Oh, ur Canadian. I got this:
http://www.amazon.ca/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1308280006&sr=8-3

A bit more expensive cuase here in Canada we love to pay more. Since its over 25 bucks, you dont pay shipping. So I guess it adds up to near the same. . .


yea 31$ is quite cheap, i will check tommorow if i can buy it at a book shop near my town for 40$ otherwise i'll buy it online.
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Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
June 17 2011 04:12 GMT
#5052
On June 17 2011 12:09 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 12:06 Crazyeyes wrote:
On June 17 2011 11:45 desrow wrote:
Tempted to buy the books how much for the whole series ?
what site should i go to buy online etc im a noob at buying books

http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=pd_ts_zgc_b_books_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&pf_rd_p=1297440222&pf_rd_s=right-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=507846&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=00GJZA8KZJ067R9SAKGR

You'd be stupid not to buy it. Thats literally almost pocket change. ;P

EDIT:
Oh, ur Canadian. I got this:
http://www.amazon.ca/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1308280006&sr=8-3

A bit more expensive cuase here in Canada we love to pay more. Since its over 25 bucks, you dont pay shipping. So I guess it adds up to near the same. . .


I bought that a week ago and so far I'm loving the first book (about 200/800 pgs done), great deal though - first four books for under 20 bucks and I got free shipping too.

I might read the second book before the second season and then compare which method I like more to decide whether I should read book 3 and on or wait for the TV shows on those.

Nice. I won't be able to wait, lol. I'm waiting until next week to ese the last episode, theN I'm diving right into this shit and finishing all four. ^_^
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
June 17 2011 04:14 GMT
#5053
On June 17 2011 13:12 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 12:09 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 17 2011 12:06 Crazyeyes wrote:
On June 17 2011 11:45 desrow wrote:
Tempted to buy the books how much for the whole series ?
what site should i go to buy online etc im a noob at buying books

http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=pd_ts_zgc_b_books_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&pf_rd_p=1297440222&pf_rd_s=right-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=507846&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=00GJZA8KZJ067R9SAKGR

You'd be stupid not to buy it. Thats literally almost pocket change. ;P

EDIT:
Oh, ur Canadian. I got this:
http://www.amazon.ca/George-Martins-Thrones-4-Book-Boxed/dp/0345529057/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1308280006&sr=8-3

A bit more expensive cuase here in Canada we love to pay more. Since its over 25 bucks, you dont pay shipping. So I guess it adds up to near the same. . .


I bought that a week ago and so far I'm loving the first book (about 200/800 pgs done), great deal though - first four books for under 20 bucks and I got free shipping too.

I might read the second book before the second season and then compare which method I like more to decide whether I should read book 3 and on or wait for the TV shows on those.

Nice. I won't be able to wait, lol. I'm waiting until next week to ese the last episode, theN I'm diving right into this shit and finishing all four. ^_^


Ah clever about waiting until the season finale, I think I'll do the same now.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 17 2011 05:23 GMT
#5054
I think Sansa is lawful evil. She just seems to always try and do whatever she thinks would benefit herself the most within the system she lives in.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 05:39:22
June 17 2011 05:38 GMT
#5055
On June 17 2011 14:23 Nevuk wrote:
I think Sansa is lawful evil. She just seems to always try and do whatever she thinks would benefit herself the most within the system she lives in.


IDK, doing things for yourself isn't necessarily evil. I definitely agree that she's Lawful though.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
June 17 2011 05:44 GMT
#5056
I dont see how you can say she's evil. She's a typical little girl.
She sees a cute boy, she wants the cute boy. She fights with her little sister. She doesnt want her dad to die.

Thats her entire character so far.
I hated her so much during episode 2 or 3 or whatever it was, when Joffrey was being a little fag to the butchers boy. I couldnt stand how she took his side, and when her dog died I was liek SERVES YOU RIGHT YOU DUMB BITCH.

Other than that, though... I wouldnt put her into any of the categories, lol.
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 08:09:04
June 17 2011 07:37 GMT
#5057
On June 17 2011 14:38 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 14:23 Nevuk wrote:
I think Sansa is lawful evil. She just seems to always try and do whatever she thinks would benefit herself the most within the system she lives in.


IDK, doing things for yourself isn't necessarily evil. I definitely agree that she's Lawful though.

As far as I remember my DnD alignments, selfishness and selflessness are the main factors deciding good and evil. Overall I think the show didn't really reveal enough information about her to deliver a good verdict of alignment. Caring for one's father couldn't really be considered selfless though, IMO.

On June 17 2011 11:32 GGQ wrote:
Lawful Good: Ned, Robb, Jon, Sansa?, Barristan

Neutral Good: Catelyn, Renly?, Bran?, Daenerys?

Chaotic Good: Arya, Robert?

Lawful Neutral: Stannis, the Hound?

True Neutral: Varys, Tyrion?

Chaotic Neutral: Jaime, Theon?, Bronn?

Lawful Evil: Tywin, Joffrey

Neutral Evil: Cersei, Littlefinger

Chaotic Evil: Viserys, the Mountain
I'd say Catelyn is not good but neutral, chaotic at that. (although oddly enough, based on wikipedia chaotic neutral and neutral good are rather similar)
Jaime - more towards Lawful Evil I'd say... as ruthless as he is.
Renly - maybe neutral?
Stannis doesn't belong because there's been hardly anything said,a bout him, let alone shown. Apparently he's pretty ruthless though.
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kerr0r
Profile Joined September 2008
Norway319 Posts
June 17 2011 07:54 GMT
#5058
On June 17 2011 16:37 Xapti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 14:38 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 17 2011 14:23 Nevuk wrote:
I think Sansa is lawful evil. She just seems to always try and do whatever she thinks would benefit herself the most within the system she lives in.


IDK, doing things for yourself isn't necessarily evil. I definitely agree that she's Lawful though.

As far as I remember my DnD alignments, selfishness and selflessness are the main factors deciding good and evil. Overall I think the show didn't really reveal enough information about her to deliver a good verdict of alignment. Caring for one's father couldn't really be considered selfless though, IMO.


+ Show Spoiler +
Good implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others.

Evil implies harming, oppressing, and killing others. Some evil creatures simply have no compassion for others and kill without qualms if doing so is convenient or if it can be set up. Others actively pursue evil, killing for sport or out of duty to some malevolent deity or master.

People who are neutral with respect to good and evil have compunctions against killing the innocent but lack the commitment to make sacrifices to protect or help others. Neutral people are committed to others by personal relationships.


Making Sansa lawful neutral. Also, the Hound is most certainly evil. Ep. 2:

Ned: The butcher's boy. You rode him down.
Hound: He ran. But not very fast.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
June 17 2011 07:58 GMT
#5059
sansa lawful neutral with low INT and WIS i guess ? lol
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
June 17 2011 08:03 GMT
#5060
I feel like the ep 10 preview has some big spoilers
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