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On April 15 2014 07:35 Raneth wrote:
Yeah, now that i've read the explanation, no way someone just noticed that while watching. Some people are so pathetic trying to look clever lol
yep.
For everyone who doesnt already know, DO NOT THINK YOU SHOULD at this point. It's ok to be in the dark, matter of fact this series likes to keep you in the dark regarding a lot of things.
Eventually you'll piece it together, or even later the show porbably will spell it out for you very clearly.
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also this certainly was a great way to create "chaos".. After all LF was the one who brought marg to kings landing, so he has a connection with the tyrells. And maybe varys was warning the tyrells(varys and queen of thorns talking) last season about littlefinger because he knew LF would try to fuck things up. he did have a dreadful look on him... dunno
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Well the whole succession thing isnt actually that important.
When Robert Baratheon died, his brother Stannis had actually the best claim to the throne, since all the kids were underage, Stannis could have been at least the hand of the king similar to Tywin in power until the kids grow up. His claim was definetely better than Cercei's queen regent bullshit. Also considering that all the kids arent really Roberts in the first place, but most likely Jaime's.
In the end you just need to have a decent enough claim and the swords to enforce it. Stannis has still the best claim legally, then Tommen, then Myrcella. After that probably Daenarys.. since after Myrcella there arent any Baratheons left.. maybe Stannis sick little daughter.
Cersei is now my new no1 hate character. Bitch got no claim to anything and thinks she's queen.
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No, it has absolutely nothing to do with age. When a new king isn't of age yet, a reagent is appointed to rule in their stead until they come of age (e.g. Ned was supposed to be reagent before Cersei tore up that piece of paper and installed herself as reagent). This is usually the case in primogeniture succession. Stannis did have the best claim to the throne, not because of the "Baratheon" children being underaged, but because Robert's kids aren't actually his, thus excluding them from the line of succession.
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On April 15 2014 10:37 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
In the end you just need to have a decent enough claim and the swords to enforce it. Stannis has still the best claim legally, then Tommen, then Myrcella. After that probably Daenarys.. since after Myrcella there arent any Baratheons left.. maybe Stannis sick little daughter.
Legally, Cersei and her children have no claim since none of them are of the royal line.
Stannis has the best claim, then his daughter.
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tyrion went from hand of the king to dragged into the dungeons in the course of 2 seasons.
Goddamnit I love this show.
I celebrated a little bit on the inside at the end of the last episode.
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When Stannis threw the leeches with Gendry's blood in the flames he named king Geoffrey, Robb Stark and Balon to be killed. Robb Stark was killed already. Now Geoffrey.
Assuming there was some black magic at work, we can guess that the birds in the pie were kinda special.
But then again, Robb Stark wasn't killed by magic.
Maybe Robb was accidentally killed before the magic could do its work.
Not sure why they would leave in the detail about Sansa's necklace though.
Somehow Olenna has something to do with it, even though it couldn't have been her who poisoned Geoffrey.
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It's obvious at this point that our Glorious Lord of Light would be the one to give us some goddamn emotional payoff. Magic dickblood and stuff...
Man I'm glad Geoffrey died!
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On April 15 2014 12:34 Painmaker wrote:
Magic dickblood and stuff...
yes. this is my new favorite phrase
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On April 15 2014 11:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 10:37 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
In the end you just need to have a decent enough claim and the swords to enforce it. Stannis has still the best claim legally, then Tommen, then Myrcella. After that probably Daenarys.. since after Myrcella there arent any Baratheons left.. maybe Stannis sick little daughter.
Legally, Cersei and her children have no claim since none of them are of the royal line. Stannis has the best claim, then his daughter.
Except that in the eyes of the law they are of the royal line. Stannis tried to prove otherwise and was unceremoniously defeated. As long as the Lannisters still have the swords, they still have the throne whether everyone in the kingdom knows the childrens' parentage or not.
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is jeoffrey forsure dead?
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No way of knowing at this point but he looked pretty dead so I'd assume so.
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On April 15 2014 13:12 KwarK wrote:
No way of knowing at this point but he looked pretty dead so I'd assume so.
Nobody is for sure dead though. At least, not after what we saw the red priest (what's his name?) resurrect the lightning lord repeatedly. They have the tools in place to bring back any character they want, I suppose.
That said, Joffrey didn't seem to have any fire god worshipers as buddies, so he'll probably rot forever. Good riddance.
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He clearly stopped breathing at the end. Thoros was (allegedly) the only red priest in King's Landing, but perhaps there are others. The religion of the Seven is strong in the capital though, so I doubt anyone would go for it.
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On April 15 2014 13:26 Nesserev wrote:
Inb4 the White Walkers invade King's Landing and resurrect Joffrey...
I keep picturing them doing that to Ned Stark, and he gets back up, puts his head back on, grabs a sword, and stares into the camera. His zombie eyes slowly gain intelligence, and he speaks: "Winter is coming."
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When the king dies in Cersei's arms, stop staring at Cersei's boobs!
Do it out of respect for the king!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/txdHiGN.png)
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On April 15 2014 13:22 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 13:12 KwarK wrote:
No way of knowing at this point but he looked pretty dead so I'd assume so. Nobody is for sure dead though. At least, not after what we saw the red priest (what's his name?) resurrect the lightning lord repeatedly. They have the tools in place to bring back any character they want, I suppose. That said, Joffrey didn't seem to have any fire god worshipers as buddies, so he'll probably rot forever. Good riddance.
The red priest is named Thoros of Myr.
And the lighting lord is Beric Dondarrion.
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On April 15 2014 12:48 Whole wrote:yes. this is my new favorite phrase
It's great indeed, almost beats vagina shadow monster and Karl Drogo
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On April 15 2014 07:26 Reaps wrote:
You know what shocked me the most? The fact that I have went this long without being spoiler'd at such a big event in the series, even more so because of the fact that i'm a regular forum reader / youtube comments.
Joffrey's death was last thing I expected in this episode.
Awww. There is still hope for this thread 
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