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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 27 2018 01:11 GMT
#161
my excuse for not reading moby dick is that someone said it seems to be really affecting for people going through mid life crisis, so im saving it
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 27 2018 06:03 GMT
#162
On February 27 2018 09:42 Zergneedsfood wrote:
It was maybe like a month or two ago, but there was a Reddit post talking about how it was unnecessary to read all the encyclopedic entries in Moby Dick, which I thought was fucking absurd, so I ended up posting on another discord's literary channel and gave a short "this is what's wrong with people" rant.

A surprising number of people responded in favor of not reading the whaling chapters, which got me super frustrated, so I went back and reread Moby Dick just so I could refresh my mind and tell them they're wrong.

They never responded to me, but it was worth it. :|


This is like reading the Cliff's Notes of Shakespeare.

I feel like I've been shilling for my ventures too much, but I've been really pondering the future of idea dissemination, to give it a term. You might have seen a few of my essays in the blog sections. I'm not really sure that's going to gain any traction. So what then? Well Youtube is very popular in the political sphere right now. I'm not sure it fits as well for more complex ideas.

So if anyone has any ideas or wants to collaborate on anything literary or philosophical or whatever else you might want to talk about.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18233 Posts
February 27 2018 07:56 GMT
#163
Pretty sure you get nowhere in today's political ideasphere if it doesn't fit in a tweet or a meme.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
February 27 2018 08:54 GMT
#164
On February 23 2018 08:20 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 03:31 RvB wrote:
Quality drops off quite steeply after book 3 though. I'm not really sure the writer knows how to finish the series. 7 years to write a book is ridiculous considering someone like Erikson wrote the malazan books 1-2 years apart.



You shouldn't have told me that, now i'm feeling suddenly less motivated to go after the 4th book

I recently read for a second time all Asimov cycle of Robot and Fondation books. Love his writing (even though i read the french translation, and not his own words)


I enjoyed the 4th GOT book, slighty less than the 3rd but still enjoyed. Now time for the 5th.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 12:14:16
February 27 2018 12:14 GMT
#165
On February 27 2018 10:11 IgnE wrote:
my excuse for not reading moby dick is that someone said it seems to be really affecting for people going through mid life crisis, so im saving it

This is a good strategy. I'm not sure I have any good mid-life crisis works saved up, so I'll just force myself to listen to recordings of "Death of a Salesmen" performances on repeat once I get there
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
123Gurke
Profile Joined January 2005
France154 Posts
February 27 2018 13:47 GMT
#166
On February 27 2018 21:14 farvacola wrote:
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On February 27 2018 10:11 IgnE wrote:
my excuse for not reading moby dick is that someone said it seems to be really affecting for people going through mid life crisis, so im saving it

This is a good strategy. I'm not sure I have any good mid-life crisis works saved up, so I'll just force myself to listen to recordings of "Death of a Salesmen" performances on repeat once I get there

I actually read a similar thing: apparently, Moby Dick is a book for men that are at least 40. I have already chosen the translation I want and my wife knows that I will want it for my 40th birthday in a few years.

Somewhat similarly, I have realized that I enjoy Hemingway even more now that I am a little older. I guess that topics like failure in life and getting older resonate more with me

Currently reading The Left Hand of Darkness. I like it so far, but progress is slow. (Even though some here seem to disagree, having a family and a job will cut into your reading time...)
"No," she said, "but sometimes I like to watch."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2018 13:54 GMT
#167
So will Hemingway make a mid life crisis better or worse? If one is planning for mid life crisis reading, I think he would one of the authors to avoid.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18855 Posts
February 27 2018 14:12 GMT
#168
I too have found that Hemingway gets better as I age, but I still maintain that his prose is a touch too sparse for my over-indulgent perspectivist tastes

Whether or not Hemingway would push someone towards matching his fate is beyond me; I've never found his works particularly depressing.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 27 2018 17:04 GMT
#169
On February 27 2018 16:56 Acrofales wrote:
Pretty sure you get nowhere in today's political ideasphere if it doesn't fit in a tweet or a meme.


I'm not sure that's true, but it does need to be digestible and, I suspect, visual.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 18:51:43
February 27 2018 18:21 GMT
#170
On February 28 2018 02:04 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 16:56 Acrofales wrote:
Pretty sure you get nowhere in today's political ideasphere if it doesn't fit in a tweet or a meme.


I'm not sure that's true, but it does need to be digestible and, I suspect, visual.


the real question is: are most people's stomachs weaker than they were 50 or 100 years ago, or was the audience for the ideas you are talking about always small (and relatively unchanging), in other words, does more democratic participation in media like youtube or twitter reduce total audience appetite for more logocentric media or does it only seem like they do because the relative audience size has always been so small?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2018 18:32 GMT
#171
The tabloids have always had a wider audience than magazines with long form articles and critique. But both forms managed to find a place on the news stand. Youtube/reddit/twitter have been seen and styled themselves as a replacement for establishment media, but have mostly become the internet tabloids. Now with crowd(mob) sourcing to feed the best drama to those who want it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 27 2018 19:00 GMT
#172
ok so what did you add to the discussion there?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2018 19:33 GMT
#173
I’m sorry if you were confused, that may have been my fault. You asked if audience size logocentric or philosophic media had changed in 100 years. I would say no, they have not. The relative demographics for entertainment, long form, critique and philosophic media remain relatively unchanged, while the venue and mediums of delivery have shifted. The internet is not local news stand or a curated library, where logocentric media would have found a small, but consistent niche to exist in and be found by its small audience. If that space exists on the internet, it is challenge to find using google.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 19:36:16
February 27 2018 19:35 GMT
#174
it seems to me that the second half of your post contradicts the first half

"no it hasnt changed. except the internet is all trash."
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2018 19:48 GMT
#175
I do not believe so. The news stand is owned by a local business person and responds to the needs of a small customer based. The library is publicly owned by the community. The front page of the internet is owned by Facebook, Google, Reddit, Twitter, Microsoft, Netflix and other large, often multinational companies. The internet is driven by mass market capitalism, which has no interests in niche audiences.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
February 27 2018 20:08 GMT
#176
It looks like US Politics Mega-thread is leaking. What did You guys read recently?
Pathetic Greta hater.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 27 2018 20:15 GMT
#177
On February 28 2018 04:48 Plansix wrote:
I do not believe so. The news stand is owned by a local business person and responds to the needs of a small customer based. The library is publicly owned by the community. The front page of the internet is owned by Facebook, Google, Reddit, Twitter, Microsoft, Netflix and other large, often multinational companies. The internet is driven by mass market capitalism, which has no interests in niche audiences.


netflix doesnt cater to niche audiences??? subreddits? twitter enclaves? do we live in an echo chamber or not??? you constantly traffic in undiscriminating cliches and end up contradicting yourself.

in other words, we are talking about a specific niche, not niches, generally.

see now youve distracted me from my main line of questioning.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2018 20:16 GMT
#178
I finished The City of Brass and I’m now on the biography of Alexander Hamilton by Forrest Mcdonald. The biography is excellent and quite readable people that might not enjoy biographies. The specific section I just got through talked about Hamilton’s legal practice and that he was well known for having reasonable rates, which are details not often featured in most biographies about the founding fathers.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 27 2018 20:18 GMT
#179
but plansix, hows the pacing in that biography?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2018 20:25 GMT
#180
Quite good for a biography, which is one of the major short falls of most mass market history writers. Compared to the John Adams biography by David McCullough, it moves at a reasonable clip and does not become bogged less than compelling details that do little to serve reader.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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