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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Khyrandor
Czech Republic158 Posts
On March 19 2013 19:11 Boonbag wrote: What about agreeing to the idea of getting your eyeballs ripped off while conscious ? Not sacrifice ? o_O Well if I would know I'm going to die... It would be a sure thing to help my brother. edit: but yeah, if there was some chance for him to survive, yet he decided to give them to him... that's a legit sacrifice. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On March 19 2013 19:11 Boonbag wrote: What about agreeing to the idea of getting your eyeballs ripped off while conscious ? Not sacrifice ? o_O No I'm with khyrandor on this. It was built up from everywhere that he recived them (or took them in tobi's story) when Izuna was alive. And I recall having read just a few weaks ago that Izuna died in battle AFTER he lost his eyes. | ||
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Cirn9
1117 Posts
On March 19 2013 18:17 Dakkas wrote: Lets spend time on side characters that will almost never be mentioned again and won't have any impact on the present plot Like most every kid ninja from Konoha | ||
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Fulla
United Kingdom519 Posts
Shame we'll never see an Itachi/madra interaction, Madara could see a true uchiha boss. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Hell, if he hadn't listened to Izuna he coulda made Hashirama heal Izuna as an exchange. God dammit Kubo, goddamit! | ||
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MacDo
Canada69 Posts
On March 19 2013 19:58 aTnClouD wrote: Plotholes everywhere, Madara was supposed to be blind when Izuna gave him his eyes, "sacrificing" himself for his brother. I don't know how manga storylines work but the writer either didn't plan for it beforehand or changed it at last minute. Not really a plothole, everything Obito/tobi said is a lie. | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
On March 19 2013 22:01 MacDo wrote: Not really a plothole, everything Obito/tobi said is a lie. what if hashirama is lying ? ;OO | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
this flashback had so much potential and you take the silliest possible route omg On March 19 2013 20:02 Iplaythings wrote: Why the hell would he rush it, the flash back was sooo good but now we just see madara as some kind "hurr durr I let my brother be an idiot". Hell, if he hadn't listened to Izuna he coulda made Hashirama heal Izuna as an exchange. God dammit Kubo, goddamit! wrong mangaka | ||
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multiversed
United States233 Posts
and this style of just rewriting over shit is not really new. kishi sucks dudes. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On March 19 2013 22:15 Milkis wrote: god dammit kishimoto this flashback had so much potential and you take the silliest possible route omg wrong mangaka Whoops lol but points still stands, and this disappointment still smells of Kubo | ||
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david0925
212 Posts
While slightly disappointing, we already know character development was going to be lacking in this flashback since we started out early in Hashi/Madara's childhoods. If they went slowly it would have taken 3 months at least to go through everything. Sure, some people might prefer that, but this is Naruto, not Hashidara. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
 ... But maybe he plans to elaborate more on Madara's side of the story in his own flashback. | ||
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ddrddrddrddr
1344 Posts
On March 19 2013 23:39 david0925 wrote: Tobi/Obito doesn't necessarily know everything true about Madara. Likewise, Madara might not be telling Hashirama the truth about Izuna when they fought. There isn't necessarily a plot hole here. Also, I'm sure people will just cry "omg we already know this" if Hashirama tells the exact story that Obito did. While slightly disappointing, we already know character development was going to be lacking in this flashback since we started out early in Hashi/Madara's childhoods. If they went slowly it would have taken 3 months at least to go through everything. Sure, some people might prefer that, but this is Naruto, not Hashidara. This isn't real life. If you can't trust anything that comes out of people's mouth just because they don't have full knowledge or are supposed to be evil and is then never called out or explicitly corrected, then the the story's just incoherent. Imagine if you have to ignore everything that comes out of every antagonist's mouth. It's a stupid idea to make the narrative so discordant with no premise for it. | ||
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david0925
212 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 19 2013 23:57 david0925 wrote: The point of the flashback was "what is the village?" not "Madara is actually a good guy that cares about his brother(s) more than the rest of the world". Granted, that probably sealed his fate as "yet another good guy gone bad in the terrible ninja world that Naruto is about to change", ultimately ending the story that "noone is inherently bad" especially now Sasuke probably converted Orochimaru too. ... Orochimaru is helping Sasuke destroy the village how is he a good guy? Orochimaru is the only true villain in Naruto hopefully that will never change | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On March 19 2013 23:57 david0925 wrote: The point of the flashback was "what is the village?" not "Madara is actually a good guy that cares about his brother(s) more than the rest of the world". Granted, that probably sealed his fate as "yet another good guy gone bad in the terrible ninja world that Naruto is about to change", ultimately ending the story that "noone is inherently bad" especially now Sasuke probably converted Orochimaru too. Agreed with that. And oh my do I miss real villains in this manga... Itachi was such a good villain when he was the power hungry mean big brother (and even more realistic). Itachi, Oro (?), Pain, Madara, their characters all were destroyed by this "is aculy a good guy" thing. | ||
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david0925
212 Posts
On March 20 2013 00:05 Forikorder wrote: ... Orochimaru is helping Sasuke destroy the village how is he a good guy? Orochimaru is the only true villain in Naruto hopefully that will never change He's helping Sasuke just "for fun" initially because he saw Sasuke's growth. On their way to the village Sasuke asked Orochimaru his real motive behind crushing Konoha, implying that he had suspicions about Orochimaru's past. So yes, inc Orochimaru tragic backstory sometime in the future. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On March 20 2013 00:10 david0925 wrote: He's helping Sasuke just "for fun" initially because he saw Sasuke's growth. On their way to the village Sasuke asked Orochimaru his real motive behind crushing Konoha, implying that he had suspicions about Orochimaru's past. So yes, inc Orochimaru tragic backstory sometime in the future. Well his tragic backstory was loosing his parents as Jiraiya mentioned and the leaf probally had something to do with it.. | ||
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