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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 16:49:38
December 07 2012 16:48 GMT
#12361
Wasn't Konan kinda wrong anyways? Since he survived?

I forget if there was another explanation as to how he survived. Oh wait, that was izanagi or something, wasn't it?
Yargh
BoX
Profile Joined July 2003
United States214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 16:56:25
December 07 2012 16:55 GMT
#12362
No, Konan was correct.. He was just able to use his Sharingan to cast Izanagi to survive her attack.

Edit: Yeah, he used Izanagi on his non-dimensional OP gosu eye.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
December 07 2012 16:59 GMT
#12363
Would be even easier to just walk out of the blast radius since he can actually move in the other dimension in the 5 minutes time he had.
BoX
Profile Joined July 2003
United States214 Posts
December 07 2012 17:01 GMT
#12364
Supposedly she made it so that he couldn't do that. I don't remember how but maybe it was so big he ouldn't
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 17:05:25
December 07 2012 17:03 GMT
#12365
On December 08 2012 01:59 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Would be even easier to just walk out of the blast radius since he can actually move in the other dimension in the 5 minutes time he had.

No, Obito has to remain completely still for the phasing to work and he could not warp to the other dimension because he would have to make himslef tangible to do so and Konan would of blown him up the second he became physical again.

And the 5 minute rule only applies to the phasing part. He couls stay forever in the other dimension if he warped there but he had no time like I said to become phsocal again and warp cus of the bombs everywhere.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
December 07 2012 17:06 GMT
#12366
On December 08 2012 02:03 Wrecken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 01:59 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Would be even easier to just walk out of the blast radius since he can actually move in the other dimension in the 5 minutes time he had.

No, Obito has to remain completely still for the phasing to work and he could not warp to the other dimension because he would have to make himslef tangible to do so and Konan would of blown him up the second he became physical again.

Okay.. well inazagi it is then. If only she went a mile further and lengthened the explosion duration more just in case. This is why good enough is never good enough.
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
December 07 2012 17:06 GMT
#12367
Sorry for typos, it's hard as hell on this phone.
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
December 07 2012 17:08 GMT
#12368
On December 08 2012 02:06 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 02:03 Wrecken wrote:
On December 08 2012 01:59 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Would be even easier to just walk out of the blast radius since he can actually move in the other dimension in the 5 minutes time he had.

No, Obito has to remain completely still for the phasing to work and he could not warp to the other dimension because he would have to make himslef tangible to do so and Konan would of blown him up the second he became physical again.

Okay.. well inazagi it is then. If only she went a mile further and lengthened the explosion duration more just in case. This is why good enough is never good enough.

This would of never happened if Minato would of just teleported to him all those years ago since he was tagged in the back, yet he decided to kill himself.
BoX
Profile Joined July 2003
United States214 Posts
December 07 2012 18:15 GMT
#12369
Minato was more concerned about buffing his kid than taking a gamble on offing obito.. He wasn't sure if he could do it, vs knowing he could buff his son. he made the right choiuce.
BoX
Profile Joined July 2003
United States214 Posts
December 07 2012 18:20 GMT
#12370
Also, don't forget the Kyuubi was running rampage through Konohagakure... He had a lot on his mind that night =o
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 08 2012 05:10 GMT
#12371
On December 08 2012 01:26 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 01:05 Forikorder wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:58 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:46 Forikorder wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:44 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:43 Forikorder wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:38 Wrecken wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:30 valium wrote:
Hopefully this manga ends soon, so i can end my masochistic compulsion to keep reading garbage that went downhill hard years ago. At least One Piece has a legitimate premise of ridiculous goofiness to keep it going, Naruto has been painfully obvious in it's BS for the sake of continuing. Meanwhile high quality manga like Mx0 and Double Arts get the shaft in their prime because they don't get the numbers of stagnant manga like Naruto and Bleach.

Silver lining in that the manga is not nearly as mind numbingly terrible as the 1/2 filler anime.

Bleach isn't even in the top 10 in sales anymore and Naruto is #3 now. One Piece dominates all and Kuroko's Basketball is #2. But ya Nardo is painfully god awful right now. I also can't believe how Shikaku got intel from absolutely no one about Obitos's 5 minute rule seeing as how the only person who knew it, Konan, is dead. Retcons everywhere.

Konan figured it out through observation lots of people could know about that weakness

Konan worked with Obito so she knew. Lots of people didn't work with obito behind the scenes.

noone like Itachi who was recently ressurected?
besides Shikamaru has had the opportunity to closely watch Obito fight if Konan can figure it out without watching Obito fight then Shikamaru can by watching him fight

True, but that's assuming first that Shikamaru has been watching him fight, and that at some point in the fight Obito had phased continuously for 5 minutes straight. We've not seen that happen in the manga except in the fight between him and Konan.

then how did Konan figure it out? there must be some sort of hint in his actions

No clue actually. The only way Konan can figure it out is to see him in a fight and be forced to phase for extended amounts of time, never longer than 5 minutes. Or maybe he has things he keep in the other dimension, and when he goes he always comes back in no more than 5 minutes. Less likely but still possible is that he for some reason told someone and Konan heard or found out. Either way he's shown nothing that would betray this weakness in the current fight. All they know at the moment is that he can phase his body parts to a different dimension linked to Kakashi's eye and He's only phased for seconds at a time.

we havent seen the entire fight just what was captured in the panels there might have been times when obito was phasing through something and had to physically dodge in order to avoid the 5 minute timer

anyway its a pretty small plot hole and not actually gonna be important since the ninjas are all fodder anyway
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
December 08 2012 20:40 GMT
#12372
On December 08 2012 14:10 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 01:26 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
On December 08 2012 01:05 Forikorder wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:58 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:46 Forikorder wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:44 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:43 Forikorder wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:38 Wrecken wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:30 valium wrote:
Hopefully this manga ends soon, so i can end my masochistic compulsion to keep reading garbage that went downhill hard years ago. At least One Piece has a legitimate premise of ridiculous goofiness to keep it going, Naruto has been painfully obvious in it's BS for the sake of continuing. Meanwhile high quality manga like Mx0 and Double Arts get the shaft in their prime because they don't get the numbers of stagnant manga like Naruto and Bleach.

Silver lining in that the manga is not nearly as mind numbingly terrible as the 1/2 filler anime.

Bleach isn't even in the top 10 in sales anymore and Naruto is #3 now. One Piece dominates all and Kuroko's Basketball is #2. But ya Nardo is painfully god awful right now. I also can't believe how Shikaku got intel from absolutely no one about Obitos's 5 minute rule seeing as how the only person who knew it, Konan, is dead. Retcons everywhere.

Konan figured it out through observation lots of people could know about that weakness

Konan worked with Obito so she knew. Lots of people didn't work with obito behind the scenes.

noone like Itachi who was recently ressurected?
besides Shikamaru has had the opportunity to closely watch Obito fight if Konan can figure it out without watching Obito fight then Shikamaru can by watching him fight

True, but that's assuming first that Shikamaru has been watching him fight, and that at some point in the fight Obito had phased continuously for 5 minutes straight. We've not seen that happen in the manga except in the fight between him and Konan.

then how did Konan figure it out? there must be some sort of hint in his actions

No clue actually. The only way Konan can figure it out is to see him in a fight and be forced to phase for extended amounts of time, never longer than 5 minutes. Or maybe he has things he keep in the other dimension, and when he goes he always comes back in no more than 5 minutes. Less likely but still possible is that he for some reason told someone and Konan heard or found out. Either way he's shown nothing that would betray this weakness in the current fight. All they know at the moment is that he can phase his body parts to a different dimension linked to Kakashi's eye and He's only phased for seconds at a time.

we havent seen the entire fight just what was captured in the panels there might have been times when obito was phasing through something and had to physically dodge in order to avoid the 5 minute timer

anyway its a pretty small plot hole and not actually gonna be important since the ninjas are all fodder anyway


Really? You're gonna go there? Why not just say that about anything and make up whatever you want. Oh hey this happened, it just didn't happen in the panels, but it totally happened.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
December 08 2012 22:33 GMT
#12373
Sigh.

Do you know when I actually stopped taking Naruto seriously?
When Danzo revealed his arm after a cliffhanger and instead of something new or cool, he just has 10 motherf****ing sharingans on it.
The worst part is my friend predicted that he would have sharingans on the arm. In jest. We were laughing a whole week about how stupid that would be. Then it actually happened.

This week, I lost what little respect I had left for Naruto. They freaking cemented an enemy. This isn´t some kind of Mafia flick where the gangsters drop someone into a river with cement "shoes"
Don´t be surprised when there will be more pseudo science bullshit techniques, like someone splitting an atom with his blade, causing a nuclear explosion. It´s the logical next step.
God, I hope I´m wrong.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
December 08 2012 22:36 GMT
#12374
On December 09 2012 07:33 Mataza wrote:
Sigh.

Do you know when I actually stopped taking Naruto seriously?
When Danzo revealed his arm after a cliffhanger and instead of something new or cool, he just has 10 motherf****ing sharingans on it.
The worst part is my friend predicted that he would have sharingans on the arm. In jest. We were laughing a whole week about how stupid that would be. Then it actually happened.

This week, I lost what little respect I had left for Naruto. They freaking cemented an enemy. This isn´t some kind of Mafia flick where the gangsters drop someone into a river with cement "shoes"
Don´t be surprised when there will be more pseudo science bullshit techniques, like someone splitting an atom with his blade, causing a nuclear explosion. It´s the logical next step.
God, I hope I´m wrong.


It'll be bee's new technique, or the legendary 8th swordsman of the mist lol.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17735 Posts
December 08 2012 22:41 GMT
#12375
On December 09 2012 07:33 Mataza wrote:
Sigh.

Do you know when I actually stopped taking Naruto seriously?
When Danzo revealed his arm after a cliffhanger and instead of something new or cool, he just has 10 motherf****ing sharingans on it.
The worst part is my friend predicted that he would have sharingans on the arm. In jest. We were laughing a whole week about how stupid that would be. Then it actually happened.

This week, I lost what little respect I had left for Naruto. They freaking cemented an enemy. This isn´t some kind of Mafia flick where the gangsters drop someone into a river with cement "shoes"
Don´t be surprised when there will be more pseudo science bullshit techniques, like someone splitting an atom with his blade, causing a nuclear explosion. It´s the logical next step.
God, I hope I´m wrong.

That would actually be pretty cool.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
December 08 2012 23:03 GMT
#12376
It must be been really weird in Shikamaru's house growing up. I imagine trying to pull off a simple prank would require months of planning and counter planning and the laying of false trails and spreading of misinformation.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 08 2012 23:32 GMT
#12377
On December 09 2012 07:33 Mataza wrote:
Sigh.

Do you know when I actually stopped taking Naruto seriously?
When Danzo revealed his arm after a cliffhanger and instead of something new or cool, he just has 10 motherf****ing sharingans on it.
The worst part is my friend predicted that he would have sharingans on the arm. In jest. We were laughing a whole week about how stupid that would be. Then it actually happened.

This week, I lost what little respect I had left for Naruto. They freaking cemented an enemy. This isn´t some kind of Mafia flick where the gangsters drop someone into a river with cement "shoes"
Don´t be surprised when there will be more pseudo science bullshit techniques, like someone splitting an atom with his blade, causing a nuclear explosion. It´s the logical next step.
God, I hope I´m wrong.


lmfao

that's hilarious

you know with these shounens im just glad that i don't feel a need to overanalyze this stuff
makes it a lot easier to enjoy it
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 09 2012 00:49 GMT
#12378
On December 09 2012 07:33 Mataza wrote:
Sigh.

Do you know when I actually stopped taking Naruto seriously?
When Danzo revealed his arm after a cliffhanger and instead of something new or cool, he just has 10 motherf****ing sharingans on it.
The worst part is my friend predicted that he would have sharingans on the arm. In jest. We were laughing a whole week about how stupid that would be. Then it actually happened.

This week, I lost what little respect I had left for Naruto. They freaking cemented an enemy. This isn´t some kind of Mafia flick where the gangsters drop someone into a river with cement "shoes"
Don´t be surprised when there will be more pseudo science bullshit techniques, like someone splitting an atom with his blade, causing a nuclear explosion. It´s the logical next step.
God, I hope I´m wrong.

You know, I actually remember exactly what went through my head when Danzo's arm was revealed too. But I would have to say that the full brunt of the mental groan didn't come from the arm being covered with Sharingans, but rather of how quickly he used up his reserve in a single fight. You'd imagine that if you spent your life collecting these Sharingans, it would have a much more effective and efficient use. It was just comical that Danzo used up all of them, didn't even come close to winning, then died. Biggest let down ever.
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
December 09 2012 04:37 GMT
#12379
On December 09 2012 08:03 Sumahi wrote:
It must be been really weird in Shikamaru's house growing up. I imagine trying to pull off a simple prank would require months of planning and counter planning and the laying of false trails and spreading of misinformation.

lol if naruto ended right now, and we got this spin off series instead. I'd be ok with it.
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
December 10 2012 13:55 GMT
#12380
On December 09 2012 09:49 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 07:33 Mataza wrote:
Sigh.

Do you know when I actually stopped taking Naruto seriously?
When Danzo revealed his arm after a cliffhanger and instead of something new or cool, he just has 10 motherf****ing sharingans on it.
The worst part is my friend predicted that he would have sharingans on the arm. In jest. We were laughing a whole week about how stupid that would be. Then it actually happened.

This week, I lost what little respect I had left for Naruto. They freaking cemented an enemy. This isn´t some kind of Mafia flick where the gangsters drop someone into a river with cement "shoes"
Don´t be surprised when there will be more pseudo science bullshit techniques, like someone splitting an atom with his blade, causing a nuclear explosion. It´s the logical next step.
God, I hope I´m wrong.

You know, I actually remember exactly what went through my head when Danzo's arm was revealed too. But I would have to say that the full brunt of the mental groan didn't come from the arm being covered with Sharingans, but rather of how quickly he used up his reserve in a single fight. You'd imagine that if you spent your life collecting these Sharingans, it would have a much more effective and efficient use. It was just comical that Danzo used up all of them, didn't even come close to winning, then died. Biggest let down ever.


Yeah I had pretty much the same thoughts, and at the end he blew himself away with a Kamikaze-Jutsu that had no effect. I mean he was sort of the CIA-Boss of Konoha or such, and his final weapon, his ultra-kamikaze-jutsu, didn´t even get one of them ? That was a cheap ending for a cheap character.
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