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ddrddrddrddr
1344 Posts
On August 30 2012 14:10 WillS wrote: "The girl that im in love with doesn't love me either": Naruto "Oh hai gurl lets be frands!": Tobi. Time for Harem no Jutsu to make a come back. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On August 30 2012 14:51 BlackPaladin wrote: Maybe rin is still alive too and obito is just doing this to impress her and get her attention. A man will do a lot for some snoo-snoo after all. Taking over the world to put everyone to sleep could be because he wants them both to have some privacy. Or maybe since he can't have her legit he figures he'll put the world to sleep and take whatever he wants from her. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On August 30 2012 14:15 Slaughter wrote: If it is Obito's and not his body as a puppet then he basically is the anti Naruto. Naruto said how Sasuke is his opposite but Tobi seems to be the true one with how their early lives went on. Sasuke is basically like Oro to Narutos Jiraya. I really hope so. I mean the him being a puppet. I cant really enter any meaningful discussions, since i didnt do much research, but from what i read i was sure it's not actually Obito, cuz that wouldnt make any sense. Or rather there would be a need for like 100 things to explain how he survived, got super imba, knows a lot of stuff from old times, knows Kurama, his part in the uchia massacre etc | ||
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adiga
495 Posts
If he wouldn't we would have an entire clan of OP eyes etc. It's funny how every uchiha that survived are super strong. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On August 30 2012 13:44 Slaughter wrote: I think the anime is what causes the confusion. Didn't the coffin just fail in the manga but in the anime the 3rd stopped it? I don' t really ever watch the Anime so I wouldn't know. This only refers to the manga. What hapened was that Oro attempted to summon Minato, he had coffin and all, flash forward to Kabuto saying, that the edo has to be prepped 1st, so if you have the coffin, you have their sould which means they can be summoned. Yet, Oro had the coffin for Minato but was surprised he could not summon him. This is textbook definition of a retcon, Kishi just changed his ideas from Part 1 and ignored many of them.[/QUOTE] The belief that it was Minato is still only a belief. [/QUOTE] Nope it's a fact, Kabuto confirmed it. On August 30 2012 13:51 Wrecken wrote: Actually, Kakashi was 2 years younger than Obito since he was 9 when he became a Chunin, and Obito was 11. Kakashi was 13 when Obito died, making Obito 15 during the time of his "death". Flash forward the following year when Obito attacked Konoha, that would make him roughly 16-17 years old, which is very plausible to me. This however is if Kishi sticks to the facts of their ages. Afaik genin/academy students are the same age and judging from this chapter it's fairly obvious that Kakashi became chuunin before Obito and then Obito trained and became chuuning later than him ( maybe 2 years but obviously not at the same time as Kakashi) I can be wrong on this one though and you gonna prove me wrong with some databook quotes which I was way too lazy to look up. But I don't think Obito is older than kakashi. Normally I scream like a little fangirl whenever there's a chapter where Minato appears and gets a few panels but even yondaime-sama can save and carry this mess, kishi what were u thinking, I really hope next weeks chapter gives a good and logical explaination ( if that's even possible at this point) | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On August 30 2012 17:01 adiga wrote: Thank god Itachi did the massacre. If he wouldn't we would have an entire clan of OP eyes etc. It's funny how every uchiha that survived are super strong. They all have the "Last of my clan" and "Living only for Revenge" themes, of course they are overpowered  | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2751 Posts
All he did was: 1. Learn eye technique 2. Learn summoning technique 3. Learn a genjutsu In what, 1 year? Even sasuke did more than this in a shorter time. What is the problem with Obito doing this. His intention was never to fight 4th head on, but to delay time. We have never seen Tobi fight for real, he aint that godly. I dont get why people say that Tobi fought on pair with Minato? Minato was way better than Tobi, all Tobi did was avoid and dodge. | ||
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 30 2012 17:12 AsnSensation wrote: I don' t really ever watch the Anime so I wouldn't know. This only refers to the manga. What hapened was that Oro attempted to summon Minato, he had coffin and all, flash forward to Kabuto saying, that the edo has to be prepped 1st, so if you have the coffin, you have their sould which means they can be summoned. Yet, Oro had the coffin for Minato but was surprised he could not summon him. This is textbook definition of a retcon, Kishi just changed his ideas from Part 1 and ignored many of them. The belief that it was Minato is still only a belief. [/QUOTE] Nope it's a fact, Kabuto confirmed it. On August 30 2012 13:51 Wrecken wrote: Actually, Kakashi was 2 years younger than Obito since he was 9 when he became a Chunin, and Obito was 11. Kakashi was 13 when Obito died, making Obito 15 during the time of his "death". Flash forward the following year when Obito attacked Konoha, that would make him roughly 16-17 years old, which is very plausible to me. This however is if Kishi sticks to the facts of their ages. . Afaik genin/academy students are the same age and judging from this chapter it's fairly obvious that Kakashi became chuunin before Obito and then Obito trained and became chuuning later than him ( maybe 2 years but obviously not at the same time as Kakashi) I can be wrong on this one though and you gonna prove me wrong with some databook quotes which I was way too lazy to look up. But I don't think Obito is older than kakashi From the databook, Kakashi was 9 when he became a chunin and Obito was 11 when he became one. However, Kishi don't give a fuck and is just making up whatever. Hell, Hayate and Anko were like 1 year old when Kakashi became a chunin, since they are 6 years younger than him. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
I just hope Kishi finds something creative for 600 but at this points with all the "fuck whatever story I told so far Im just gonna ass pull shit after shit" it feels like he lost his passion for Naruto and just wants to get it over with l0l. Just realized thats its already been 2 years since we had the kushina+minato chapters around 500, oh boy how time flies. | ||
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Belgium927 Posts
On August 30 2012 14:14 ddrddrddrddr wrote: Time for Harem no Jutsu to make a come back. If the naruto universe were reality, harem no jutsu would be the new sharingan in OPness | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
The reason all the "OP guys" survived in Uchiha is: 2 of the guys that KILLED THE ENTIRE CLAN obviously are super strong and still alive Madara got ressed by Edo tensei because he was so powerful. Sasukes been trying hard all throughout the manga to get power and Itachi becasically gave him EMS from standard sharingan in 1 go so he got a lift from Itachi who we already know is the strongest uchiha ever since Madara at least. You can say tobi is stronger than Itachi but tobi is just an evil genius type of guy he didn't accomplish that much in combat. I wonder what Tobi was on about when he kept saying "I win" when he tried to warp minato. Was he warping him into the other dimension? If so, how long could he keep him there? I assume the "I win" was because he just needed to delay minato for Kyuubi to wreck face in konoha. Tobi only used his jutsu twice before Minato figured it out and figured out the counter. Lol. How long has that doofus naruto been hiting straight through tobi for? lol. If, say, shushi survived he had probably the strongest eye technique in the world tbh. Getting madara and fucking rinnegan and 8 full susannoo clans to fight for you? Yes please. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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kahuynon712
66 Posts
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On August 30 2012 20:26 Slayer91 wrote: Obito became a chuunin 2 years later but by then Kakashi became a Jounin, what's the problem here? Whatever about the other timeline characters, I didn't notice that. The reason all the "OP guys" survived in Uchiha is: 2 of the guys that KILLED THE ENTIRE CLAN obviously are super strong and still alive Madara got ressed by Edo tensei because he was so powerful. Sasukes been trying hard all throughout the manga to get power and Itachi becasically gave him EMS from standard sharingan in 1 go so he got a lift from Itachi who we already know is the strongest uchiha ever since Madara at least. You can say tobi is stronger than Itachi but tobi is just an evil genius type of guy he didn't accomplish that much in combat. I wonder what Tobi was on about when he kept saying "I win" when he tried to warp minato. Was he warping him into the other dimension? If so, how long could he keep him there? I assume the "I win" was because he just needed to delay minato for Kyuubi to wreck face in konoha. Tobi only used his jutsu twice before Minato figured it out and figured out the counter. Lol. How long has that doofus naruto been hiting straight through tobi for? lol. If, say, shushi survived he had probably the strongest eye technique in the world tbh. Getting madara and fucking rinnegan and 8 full susannoo clans to fight for you? Yes please. EVERYTHING is wrong here. The biggest of them all is fkn Hayate and Anko, and how they are even standing there. Kakashi became a chunin at 6 years old, so that was 24 years ago from his current age, Anko and the deceased Hayate are 23 and 24 years old respectively, so minus 24 years, and they shouldn't even be alive yet, much less stand there. Now Kishi has ignored this and just made them all similar ages, completely going against all their birthrates and databook stats. From what has been shown, since Kakashi became a chunin at 6, that means Hayate, who is 3 years younger, became a FKN CHUNIN AT 3 years old!!! | ||
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sharkie
Austria18776 Posts
On August 30 2012 20:26 Slayer91 wrote: Obito became a chuunin 2 years later but by then Kakashi became a Jounin, what's the problem here? Whatever about the other timeline characters, I didn't notice that. The reason all the "OP guys" survived in Uchiha is: 2 of the guys that KILLED THE ENTIRE CLAN obviously are super strong and still alive Madara got ressed by Edo tensei because he was so powerful. Sasukes been trying hard all throughout the manga to get power and Itachi becasically gave him EMS from standard sharingan in 1 go so he got a lift from Itachi who we already know is the strongest uchiha ever since Madara at least. You can say tobi is stronger than Itachi but tobi is just an evil genius type of guy he didn't accomplish that much in combat. I wonder what Tobi was on about when he kept saying "I win" when he tried to warp minato. Was he warping him into the other dimension? If so, how long could he keep him there? I assume the "I win" was because he just needed to delay minato for Kyuubi to wreck face in konoha. Tobi only used his jutsu twice before Minato figured it out and figured out the counter. Lol. How long has that doofus naruto been hiting straight through tobi for? lol. If, say, shushi survived he had probably the strongest eye technique in the world tbh. Getting madara and fucking rinnegan and 8 full susannoo clans to fight for you? Yes please. Come on. Comparing Minato and Naruta is just stupid. One is the most talented ninja of all times since hashirama and madara and the other has no talent and just unlimited ninetails chakra power. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
Naruto learned the rasengan in a couple of weeks and learned sage mode better than Jiraiya. It's not just the 9 tails naruto is one of the fastest learning Ninjas in the manga it's just that he was absolutely awful in his first 12 years probably something to do with living on his own from birth and eating cup ramen and expired milk every day lol. And comparing minato and naruto is pretty intuitive since you know, he's his dad.. Naruto isn't the only one who didn't easily figure out tobis technique. It's just a testament to minatos intelligence more than bashing naruto for being shitty. Cause he isn't. We haven't been following naruto for over a decade. Technically it's only been 3 years of his life. How good do you think minato was at 15? Naruto went from a useless kid to one of the strongest ninjas in 3 years. Minato became hokage before he was 30 but imagine how strong naruto would theoretically be in 15 more years? lol. I'm sure if this manga was about minato you'd all be complaining that he only has flying thunder god technique and rasengan and he sucks compared to third hokage who managed to almost beat orochimaru 1st and 2nd hokage all at once!! I don't think minato would be that smart at 15 either. Naruto was given the 9 tails so he could surpass his ancestors, that fact that he's not at their level yet even with the Kyuubi is nothing because he only has just begun to improve and he's already one of the strongest ninjas in the world. | ||
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