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Im so excited about how kishi is going to explain evrything.
About Tobi being Obito,
Im not gonna say that im pleased or unpleased because it wasn't what i predicted
But now we know for sure, im actualy quite happy its him.
He already has a personality and he has some sort of relationship with kakahsi.
(Althoug its somewhat similar to Jiraya-Oro and Naruto-Sasuke,
i rlly wonder how far kakashi would have gone if he knew Obito was still alive)
Also the flashback was brilliant.
Eventhough no1 said anything, we know:
- He wanted to help evryone
- How much he loved Rin
- He was proud of the Uchiha
- He wanted to become Hokage
- He was jealous of Kakashi
Also in evry panel the young Obito showed some sort of emotion,
while the older Obito has no emotions left at all.
man, i cant wait for the next chapter.
I really really hope that Naruto backs off, this isnt his fight anymore.
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On August 31 2012 08:59 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 06:58 WillS wrote:On August 31 2012 02:59 AsnSensation wrote:
@WIIIS
you link to a page where kabuto says: oro's attempt to summon the 4th failed while it shows a flashback of the fight between oro and the 3rd you say thats it's not a fact that the 3rd coffin was intended to be the 4th? cmon man, Kabuto's is also done basically and he revealed everything to regarding edo tensei to tobi already. His "Trumph card" was just the Madara Summonor Sagemode. No, it isn't a fact till it is proved. Kabuto perpetually lies about the weakness in the technique therefore it cannot be given as fact because he could and had a tendancy to lie and thus cannot be proved. Yes it is a fact and you look quite foolish trying to argue against it.
Hehe reading my sentance back it is very poorly written. However I would rather look foolish for trying to find something plausable than trust Kabuto's character. He is a very naughty boy after all.
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Minato is Hokage while Obito is a kid LOL.
I guess he just redrew the scenery without even thinking about the wall...
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On August 31 2012 11:24 furerkip wrote:
Minato is Hokage while Obito is a kid LOL.
I guess he just redrew the scenery without even thinking about the wall...
I wonder whether tobi is from the same scenery as naruto is. He can move between dimensions at will it seems and i dont like the scenery of the other dimension very much.
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On August 31 2012 02:28 Kazeyonoma wrote:
well he's fucking 15... most of those kage's developed their shit after spending decades learning it, even Minato took years just to develop the rasengan and never got the rasen shuriken working... and low and behold, Naruto figured it out and got it working, AND figured out how to do it in a way that wouldn't damage his arm. Completing other peoples unfinished work is part of the legacy, you can't just take that away from him. And besides, he'll have time to develop new shit when he's older and actually has time to, you know, when he's not spending every 3 months rescuing the entire ninja world.
Basically NONE of the people in naruto except the kage's (who are touted as the greatest ninjas of their respective countries) haven't created shit either, it was always just learned from someone else. So why all the hate on naruto and not on everyone?
He's the trust fund baby? who's learned and mastered abilities through hard work and training... while sasuke, who had eternal mangekyo GIVEN to him, AMATERASU GIVEN to him, Susano'o given/accidentally awoken mid battle. Yeah, naruto's the credit taker for having everything given to him. mmm hmm. Even his chidori, is basically an adaptation of the raikiri, hell the original chidori was the exact same thing as the raikiri, it's just with his chakra and sharingan he was able to better manipulate the lightning to be able to extend out of his body (sharpening his weapons with it, or shooting it out like a blade, or a stun field around him). If that's considered 'inventing' a new move, then the rasen shuriken does too.
I am tired of reading this. Itachi did not "give" sasuke amaterasu, he planted a trap just like the crow with shisui's eye. Sasuke attained amaterasu and later blaze release with his mangekyo.
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Amaterasu is part of the Mangekyo sharingan which Itachi basically gave to him ALTHOUGH he was going to die anyway so I guess it's a waste lol.
Sasuke only had normal sharingan for 3 years, hard to believe with all the rinnegans and sharingans floating around.
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On September 01 2012 03:15 Slayer91 wrote:
Amaterasu is part of the Mangekyo sharingan which Itachi basically gave to him ALTHOUGH he was going to die anyway so I guess it's a waste lol.
Sasuke only had normal sharingan for 3 years, hard to believe with all the rinnegans and sharingans floating around.
No itachi did not give sasuke ameratsu. It would have awaken once itachi died it didnt matter if itachi gave it to him or not. Itachi did actually lose the fight though. He didnt have enogh chakra left in him after awakening susano.
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On September 01 2012 12:01 BreakerD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 03:15 Slayer91 wrote:
Amaterasu is part of the Mangekyo sharingan which Itachi basically gave to him ALTHOUGH he was going to die anyway so I guess it's a waste lol.
Sasuke only had normal sharingan for 3 years, hard to believe with all the rinnegans and sharingans floating around. No itachi did not give sasuke ameratsu. It would have awaken once itachi died it didnt matter if itachi gave it to him or not. Itachi did actually lose the fight though. He didnt have enogh chakra left in him after awakening susano.
I don't think he's talking about the amaterasu trap itachi planted to try to kill tobi. What i believe he is talking about is that itachi purposely died to allow sasuke to awake his mangekyo, which essentially is giving sauske the ability to now use amaterasu, susanoo, and other mangekyo abilities.
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On September 01 2012 12:01 BreakerD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 03:15 Slayer91 wrote:
Amaterasu is part of the Mangekyo sharingan which Itachi basically gave to him ALTHOUGH he was going to die anyway so I guess it's a waste lol.
Sasuke only had normal sharingan for 3 years, hard to believe with all the rinnegans and sharingans floating around. No itachi did not give sasuke ameratsu. It would have awaken once itachi died it didnt matter if itachi gave it to him or not. Itachi did actually lose the fight though. He didnt have enogh chakra left in him after awakening susano.
Itachi was not fighting to kill Sasuke iirc. He just wanted to bring Orochimaru out to take his influence off Sasuke. Im 100% sure that if Itachi wanted to kill Sasuke in that fight he would of with ease. It was Itachi's illness that killed him not Sasuke. Amaterasu is an ability of all ms users afaik so Itachi just implanted the trap.
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Ya im pretty sure when Tobi was explaining things Sasuke realized that he would of been dead if Itachi wanted him dead.
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On September 01 2012 16:46 shark. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 12:01 BreakerD wrote:On September 01 2012 03:15 Slayer91 wrote:
Amaterasu is part of the Mangekyo sharingan which Itachi basically gave to him ALTHOUGH he was going to die anyway so I guess it's a waste lol.
Sasuke only had normal sharingan for 3 years, hard to believe with all the rinnegans and sharingans floating around. No itachi did not give sasuke ameratsu. It would have awaken once itachi died it didnt matter if itachi gave it to him or not. Itachi did actually lose the fight though. He didnt have enogh chakra left in him after awakening susano. Itachi was not fighting to kill Sasuke iirc. He just wanted to bring Orochimaru out to take his influence off Sasuke. Im 100% sure that if Itachi wanted to kill Sasuke in that fight he would of with ease. It was Itachi's illness that killed him not Sasuke. Amaterasu is an ability of all ms users afaik so Itachi just implanted the trap.
agree, pretty sure Itachi could have instagibbed sasuke even with all the training he had in 3 years under Oro l0l, itachi too strong.
Amaterasu is only Sasuke, Itachi family branch I assume, or at least not Mangekyo in general otherwise Kakashi would have used it. Did Madara use Amaterasu vs the kages? Dont have the time to reread the few chaps now.
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On September 01 2012 20:13 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 16:46 shark. wrote:On September 01 2012 12:01 BreakerD wrote:On September 01 2012 03:15 Slayer91 wrote:
Amaterasu is part of the Mangekyo sharingan which Itachi basically gave to him ALTHOUGH he was going to die anyway so I guess it's a waste lol.
Sasuke only had normal sharingan for 3 years, hard to believe with all the rinnegans and sharingans floating around. No itachi did not give sasuke ameratsu. It would have awaken once itachi died it didnt matter if itachi gave it to him or not. Itachi did actually lose the fight though. He didnt have enogh chakra left in him after awakening susano. Itachi was not fighting to kill Sasuke iirc. He just wanted to bring Orochimaru out to take his influence off Sasuke. Im 100% sure that if Itachi wanted to kill Sasuke in that fight he would of with ease. It was Itachi's illness that killed him not Sasuke. Amaterasu is an ability of all ms users afaik so Itachi just implanted the trap. agree, pretty sure Itachi could have instagibbed sasuke even with all the training he had in 3 years under Oro l0l, itachi too strong. Amaterasu is only Sasuke, Itachi family branch I assume, or at least not Mangekyo in general otherwise Kakashi would have used it. Did Madara use Amaterasu vs the kages? Dont have the time to reread the few chaps now.
i think he did not sure
he seemed more interested in using his Susano'o and wood techniques to kill them all though
also Kakashi doesnt have Uchiha blood so his abilty to use his Sharingan is limited so its probably more doesnt know how to use Amaterasu or maybe Obitos eyes traded Tsukyomi and Amaterasu for imba S/T tech
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On September 01 2012 03:15 Slayer91 wrote:
Amaterasu is part of the Mangekyo sharingan which Itachi basically gave to him ALTHOUGH he was going to die anyway so I guess it's a waste lol.
Sasuke only had normal sharingan for 3 years, hard to believe with all the rinnegans and sharingans floating around.
Well he could've got mangekyo easily at VotE but then we wouldn't have a manga anymore.
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I like how so many people are thinking harder about this than kishimoto
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I have a feeling that the next chapter is gonna be about Sasgay ugh I mean Sasuke. Its just like Kishimoto to troll us when something interesting happens in the previous chapter. "Oh you guys want to know about how Tobi is Obito? Okay, this chapter will be about Sasuke getting a new Susano"
Well about the whole Obito thing,(Don't ask me how this is just some theory) I think somewhere down the line he went to future via his Space time Sharingan or something and saw that there was still violence and hatred or it grew to a point where it couldn't be stopped and decided that he had to take matter into his own hands. He came back to the past, to a point where he realized that warning everyone he knew wasn't gonna change the outcome of the future. So he operated in the dark, planing his moon eye plan. Planting the Rennigan in Nagato."Influencing" Yahiko to form Akutski. Capturing the Tail beast so he can unleash his eternal genjutisu so the future wouldn't be doomed. Obito believes that if he enslaved everyone it would end all the hatred and the horrible future he saw won't ever happend. Well yeah, that's what I think what happened *cross fingers*
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On September 02 2012 09:30 OutlaW- wrote:
I like how so many people are thinking harder about this than kishimoto
It's fun and interesting thinking the possible outcomes and motives. Bouncing theories off each other on a manga that has been around for a decade. Sadly the series is coming to an end and we may never have this chance again. For a lot of us we grew up reading/watching this series. For some of us that moved on to the real world, this may be the only manga that we still read. I know for a fact that all of us really want to know how Kishimoto decides to end the series. All of us have out theories and endings but it's up to Kishimoto (more like the editor) that decides who dies and don't and how he sees his story ending.
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On September 02 2012 16:15 Sparkman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 09:30 OutlaW- wrote:
I like how so many people are thinking harder about this than kishimoto It's fun and interesting thinking the possible outcomes and motives. Bouncing theories off each other on a manga that has been around for a decade. Sadly the series is coming to an end and we may never have this chance again. For a lot of us we grew up reading/watching this series. For some of us that moved on to the real world, this may be the only manga that we still read. I know for a fact that all of us really want to know how Kishimoto decides to end the series. All of us have out theories and endings but it's up to Kishimoto (more like the editor) that decides who dies and don't and how he sees his story ending.
Wait. Is this the last bad guy for Naruto to fight? Then they're gonna end the series?? That would suck! I'd be very sad. 
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On August 31 2012 11:24 furerkip wrote:
Minato is Hokage while Obito is a kid LOL.
I guess he just redrew the scenery without even thinking about the wall...
Rofl yeah I was about to post it, complete non-sense, I was like "WTF are you doing Kishi ?"...
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Tobi, Sasuke, Madara all at large and ridiculously evil, but the manga can't go on any further with narutos current powerlevel it's over 9000 for sure.
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so close to abandon reading naruto after the newest chapter..sigh
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