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On August 30 2012 07:26 Xinder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 07:23 Slayer91 wrote: Nah, just takes re reading and analysis, nothing much to do with anime vs manga. Lol well it's still some crazy depth. Maybe I should rewatch the Anime or read the Manga from further back. I feel like I must have missed soooooo much despite having seen every current episode of the anime, barring some stupid filler episodes.
You really didn't though. I mean you saw the signs and symbols but you didn't observe (and neither did I, in case you're thinking that I'm being condescending). It's cool IMO to see how all of this just sorta fits together.
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well.... we all saw that one coming... and if it wasn't Obito in his mind the fan forums sure influenced him hard....
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Fun fact: With this bullshit Obito move...the current Bleach issues > the current Naruto issues. Not saying much, but fuck Obito fo sho.
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Some of what Tobi did in the past had to occur due to someone else (Madara?, someone else).... otherwise, it wouldn't make sense.
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hmm, so could the person in kabuto's edo tensei coffin that seemed to shock tobi so much be rin? who else could it be?
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THE SECRET OF THE CENTURY HAS FINALLY BEEN REVEALED!!!!
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On August 30 2012 09:33 KimJongChill wrote: hmm, so could the person in kabuto's edo tensei coffin that seemed to shock tobi so much be rin? who else could it be? it was Madara Uchiha?
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Yea that was madaras coffin,he was shocked back than because he was telling people he was madara all along. Did Kabuto actually know who he is or not I cant actually remember if he hinted at knowing anything.
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Can we agree that, if we assume the characters didn´t purposefully lie about background information, Tobi being Obito takes
one two several all of the following: Some devil-like entity offering Obito life in exchange for his soul("A god-being corrupted him") Tobi being a passed on identity between Madara and Obito Orochimaru being a wizard Madara being a wizard Zetsu being a wizard Brainwashing Time travel
With "being a wizard" I mean general have more powers than actually be considered possible in the narutoverse. Madara rescuing Obito, brainwashing him and making him grow up in 1 year would be that, for example. Orochimaru spontaneously reviving is already wizard behavior by my standard.
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Guys I see it now, the name Tobi is "Obito" all jumbled up with an extra "O" for Oh look I'm an evil antagonist now.
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Kishi fucked up this chapter so bad. First of all, how was Minato's Hokage statue already up when he wasn't Hokage until after the war? Most likely what happened is that since Kishi's assistants draw the backgrounds, they probably copied and pasted the genereic kage mountain without paying attention.
And second, Kakashi was supposed to be 6 years old when he became a Chunin, yet he loooked the same age as Part 1 Naruto lol. Also, Hayate should have been only 1 year old, yet looked same age as Obito, Rin, Gai ect..... wtf Kishi.
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Another fuck up is that Kishi forgot the ages of Obito and just ignored everything, Obito became a Chunin at age 11, while Kakashi became one at age 9, yet when Obito died, Kakahi implied he was same exact age as Obito, making them both 13. Kishi most likely forgot/ignored the age difference by then.
But with this plot hole, Kishi can just roll with this and just say Obito was 2 years older than Kakashi, despite what Kakashi himself said, making it more believable that Obito fought Minato at age 16-17, rather than 14.
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Guys, I'm curious about something. Since Itachi made a defense mechanism on Sasuke whenever he say Tobi's Sharingan, Sasuke would cast Amaterasu on it, why didn't it work when Kakashi and sasuke fought after danzo died?
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Just out of interest has anyone else noticed that Kishi has encouraged the ability for Tobi to fake his identity at many times and that Tobi is capable of placing the entire planet in an illusion? Starting with his face?
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On August 30 2012 07:42 GrapeApe wrote: Fun fact: With this bullshit Obito move...the current Bleach issues > the current Naruto issues. Not saying much, but fuck Obito fo sho. Disagree. At least Kishi revealed his mystery character. We still don't know who the fuck it is that put his sword to Uraharas face 2 months ago.
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On August 30 2012 11:09 LXenJin wrote: Guys, I'm curious about something. Since Itachi made a defense mechanism on Sasuke whenever he say Tobi's Sharingan, Sasuke would cast Amaterasu on it, why didn't it work when Kakashi and sasuke fought after danzo died?
Wasn't it a one time use? Itachi assumed that the amaterasu would just rock his shit and be done, so he wouldn't need it to happen more than once
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all the time/age discrepancies will probably be explained by something along the lines of obito mastering space-time techniques
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On August 30 2012 00:07 LovE- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 00:03 ticklishmusic wrote: why is it so hard to believe...
tobi is the same age as kakashi. It's just because of the whole Obito controlling the Fox and fighting Minato thing that throws this so far off. Obito barely learned how to fight moments beofre he was crushed, and then he is supposed to be able to take on a Hokage 1 year after that?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=48747¤tpage=481#9609
Here's my reasoning of how that's possible from awhile back.
EDIT: Okay, so yes Obito was a bit of a loser and got his ass handed to him by Gai, but he got stronger over the last few years.
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