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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
February 15 2012 18:51 GMT
#7901
Love the Sasuke hate here. Man, Naruto's the bigger whiny bitch, can't remember last time when Sasuke was emo. And I mean emo, and not insane or bloodthirsty.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
February 15 2012 18:52 GMT
#7902
I'm not sure how the fuck you kill edo tensei Itachi. Maybe Sasuke's gonna go super saiyan sharingan level 3?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
February 15 2012 18:53 GMT
#7903
Itachi can't be kill.... dude's immortal with unlimited chakra and susano. I don't think Sasuke can beat him even if he try, not to mention Itachi's susano has the sealing sword and the mirror shield.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
aeroblaster
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States422 Posts
February 15 2012 18:56 GMT
#7904
On February 16 2012 03:41 InFdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 03:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
Remember the neji vs naurto fight? Gifts vs hard work?

Sup, sausake getting everything for free and saying it was "his hard work" aka, brother gives him everything in secret. Naruto still working hard. GUESS WHO WILL WIN.

In retrospect that was the biggest bs fight ever. All Naurto's hard work wouldn't have done shit if he didn't have the Kyuubi's chakra.Author keeps trying to make it seem like hard work is what drives Naruto to success but from what I can recall half the manga is basically Naruto tries something, doesn't quite make it, gets angry, gets chakra from the Kyuubi and wins.


That's so true. And whenever he has a problem, Rasengan is like his multi-tool for solving 99% of his problems. Kyuubi just always tips the scales in Naruto's favor if Rasengan isn't enough lol
If you want to catch a rabbit just hide behind a tree and make the sound of a carrot.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
February 15 2012 19:34 GMT
#7905
God I hope this manga does a 180 and just has Itachi kill Sasuke in the next 5 chapters.
secret - never again
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 15 2012 19:40 GMT
#7906
On February 16 2012 04:34 ch33psh33p wrote:
God I hope this manga does a 180 and just has Itachi kill Sasuke in the next 5 chapters.

i wish.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
February 15 2012 19:49 GMT
#7907
My only problem was randomly punching a wall and finding the long lost "hidden room" of Orochimaru... yeah... I don't get why that's my biggest issue, but it just seemed so random and out of place.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 20:46:49
February 15 2012 20:45 GMT
#7908
On February 16 2012 03:56 aeroblaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 03:41 InFdude wrote:
On February 16 2012 03:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
Remember the neji vs naurto fight? Gifts vs hard work?

Sup, sausake getting everything for free and saying it was "his hard work" aka, brother gives him everything in secret. Naruto still working hard. GUESS WHO WILL WIN.

In retrospect that was the biggest bs fight ever. All Naurto's hard work wouldn't have done shit if he didn't have the Kyuubi's chakra.Author keeps trying to make it seem like hard work is what drives Naruto to success but from what I can recall half the manga is basically Naruto tries something, doesn't quite make it, gets angry, gets chakra from the Kyuubi and wins.


That's so true. And whenever he has a problem, Rasengan is like his multi-tool for solving 99% of his problems. Kyuubi just always tips the scales in Naruto's favor if Rasengan isn't enough lol

he didnt get Kyuubis chakra when he owned the immortal duo
he didnt get the Kyuubis chakra during his fight with Pain, yes he did lost control at one point but it didnt really accomplish anything for him
he didnt get chakra when he rasengan'd kabuto
he didnt get chakra against Gaara until Gaara unleashed his tailed beast form

90% of the time when he did get Chakra (not counting when he actually took control of Kurama) the opponent got away like against Orochimaru and Deidara

besides, Kuramas power is his power its like wining Kakashi and Sasuke rely on the Sharingan or how Neji and Hinata rely on the Byakugan its a power NAruto has that he worked hard to control

if Itachi and Sasuke do meet, nothing will come of it Sasukes not good enough at Genjutsu to trap Itachi and Itachi doesnt want to hurt his little bro, the most theyll do is have a heart to heart which will lay the groundwork for Sasukes redemption then hell go off and PWN Kabuto
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 20:56:53
February 15 2012 20:56 GMT
#7909
nevermind
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 15 2012 21:11 GMT
#7910
On February 16 2012 05:45 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 03:56 aeroblaster wrote:
On February 16 2012 03:41 InFdude wrote:
On February 16 2012 03:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
Remember the neji vs naurto fight? Gifts vs hard work?

Sup, sausake getting everything for free and saying it was "his hard work" aka, brother gives him everything in secret. Naruto still working hard. GUESS WHO WILL WIN.

In retrospect that was the biggest bs fight ever. All Naurto's hard work wouldn't have done shit if he didn't have the Kyuubi's chakra.Author keeps trying to make it seem like hard work is what drives Naruto to success but from what I can recall half the manga is basically Naruto tries something, doesn't quite make it, gets angry, gets chakra from the Kyuubi and wins.


That's so true. And whenever he has a problem, Rasengan is like his multi-tool for solving 99% of his problems. Kyuubi just always tips the scales in Naruto's favor if Rasengan isn't enough lol

he didnt get Kyuubis chakra when he owned the immortal duo
he didnt get the Kyuubis chakra during his fight with Pain, yes he did lost control at one point but it didnt really accomplish anything for him
he didnt get chakra when he rasengan'd kabuto
he didnt get chakra against Gaara until Gaara unleashed his tailed beast form

90% of the time when he did get Chakra (not counting when he actually took control of Kurama) the opponent got away like against Orochimaru and Deidara

besides, Kuramas power is his power its like wining Kakashi and Sasuke rely on the Sharingan or how Neji and Hinata rely on the Byakugan its a power NAruto has that he worked hard to control

if Itachi and Sasuke do meet, nothing will come of it Sasukes not good enough at Genjutsu to trap Itachi and Itachi doesnt want to hurt his little bro, the most theyll do is have a heart to heart which will lay the groundwork for Sasukes redemption then hell go off and PWN Kabuto

... the hell am i reading?
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
February 15 2012 22:06 GMT
#7911
On February 16 2012 04:49 Takkara wrote:
My only problem was randomly punching a wall and finding the long lost "hidden room" of Orochimaru... yeah... I don't get why that's my biggest issue, but it just seemed so random and out of place.

Not just finding the secret room. The punch itself was kind of out of the blue. Yeah, I know Juugo sometimes loses it, but come on, that was toooo convenient.

I am really hyped by a Sasuke vs Itachi fight, but somewhere deep inside I know Kishi would turn it into some lame bro to bro conversation fight.

What would be really awesome and redeem Kishi is that Sasuke kills every one of the other characters other than Naruto, including the 5th, Sakura, Ino, Chouji, Shikamaru and even Gaara. That would be interesting.
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
February 15 2012 22:11 GMT
#7912
I dream about a real fight... with itachi using his full power... but I think kishi won't make my dream come true :D...
a question.. does anyone know if kishi talked about when naruto is ending? will it end with the war or will he make the story longer?
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 22:36:22
February 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#7913
Not really interested in this coming fight, how can Itachi possible lose when he's given Sasuke every power he has, and seems like they were only a fraction of Itachi's true power and now he's a fucking immortal on top if it all...gonna be a cheesy ending for sure

Nothing short of Itachi walking up bitch slapping him and telling him he's a failure of a brother before killing him then pulling out some trick to kill his immortal self as well will be a disappointment
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
malignant
Profile Joined August 2011
United States35 Posts
February 15 2012 22:36 GMT
#7914

he didnt get Kyuubis chakra when he owned the immortal duo
he didnt get the Kyuubis chakra during his fight with Pain, yes he did lost control at one point but it didnt really accomplish anything for him
he didnt get chakra when he rasengan'd kabuto
he didnt get chakra against Gaara until Gaara unleashed his tailed beast form

90% of the time when he did get Chakra (not counting when he actually took control of Kurama) the opponent got away like against Orochimaru and Deidara

besides, Kuramas power is his power its like wining Kakashi and Sasuke rely on the Sharingan or how Neji and Hinata rely on the Byakugan its a power NAruto has that he worked hard to control

if Itachi and Sasuke do meet, nothing will come of it Sasukes not good enough at Genjutsu to trap Itachi and Itachi doesnt want to hurt his little bro, the most theyll do is have a heart to heart which will lay the groundwork for Sasukes redemption then hell go off and PWN Kabuto


I think the problem is that Naruto and Kyuubi's Chakra is pretty much inseparable.He either get a lot of chakra from Kyuubi (if Kyuubi is repressed by a seal) or a -FREAKING LOT- of chakra from Kyuubi (Kyuubi mode).

Naruto's favorite technique kagebunshin which won him a lot of fight is unusable to most people because they dont have kyyubi empowered chakra,
Without kagebunshin he cant even do a complete Rasengan.
While at this point in the manga Naruto certainly is a very experienced ninja that would probably do very very well even if he is no longer empowered by Kyuubi, his earlier fights are most certainly titled to his favor or outright won due to Kyuubi's influence.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 15 2012 22:39 GMT
#7915
On February 16 2012 07:33 NotSorry wrote:
Not really interested in this coming fight, how can Itachi possible lose when he's given Sasuke every power he has, and seems like they were only a fraction of Itachi's true power and now he's a fucking immortal on top if it all...gonna be a cheesy ending for sure

Nothing short of Itachi walking up bitch slapping him and telling him he's a failure of a brother before killing him then pulling out some trick to kill his immortal self as well will be a disappointment

Itachi is going to deal with Kabuto so his ultimate goal is to kill himself, no way hell kill sasuke first though
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 15 2012 22:40 GMT
#7916
On February 16 2012 07:39 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 07:33 NotSorry wrote:
Not really interested in this coming fight, how can Itachi possible lose when he's given Sasuke every power he has, and seems like they were only a fraction of Itachi's true power and now he's a fucking immortal on top if it all...gonna be a cheesy ending for sure

Nothing short of Itachi walking up bitch slapping him and telling him he's a failure of a brother before killing him then pulling out some trick to kill his immortal self as well will be a disappointment

Itachi is going to deal with Kabuto so his ultimate goal is to kill himself, no way hell kill sasuke first though


and that's what making it disappointing, cause nothing good can come from it
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 15 2012 22:40 GMT
#7917
On February 16 2012 07:36 malignant wrote:
Show nested quote +

he didnt get Kyuubis chakra when he owned the immortal duo
he didnt get the Kyuubis chakra during his fight with Pain, yes he did lost control at one point but it didnt really accomplish anything for him
he didnt get chakra when he rasengan'd kabuto
he didnt get chakra against Gaara until Gaara unleashed his tailed beast form

90% of the time when he did get Chakra (not counting when he actually took control of Kurama) the opponent got away like against Orochimaru and Deidara

besides, Kuramas power is his power its like wining Kakashi and Sasuke rely on the Sharingan or how Neji and Hinata rely on the Byakugan its a power NAruto has that he worked hard to control

if Itachi and Sasuke do meet, nothing will come of it Sasukes not good enough at Genjutsu to trap Itachi and Itachi doesnt want to hurt his little bro, the most theyll do is have a heart to heart which will lay the groundwork for Sasukes redemption then hell go off and PWN Kabuto


I think the problem is that Naruto and Kyuubi's Chakra is pretty much inseparable.He either get a lot of chakra from Kyuubi (if Kyuubi is repressed by a seal) or a -FREAKING LOT- of chakra from Kyuubi (Kyuubi mode).

Naruto's favorite technique kagebunshin which won him a lot of fight is unusable to most people because they dont have kyyubi empowered chakra,
Without kagebunshin he cant even do a complete Rasengan.
While at this point in the manga Naruto certainly is a very experienced ninja that would probably do very very well even if he is no longer empowered by Kyuubi, his earlier fights are most certainly titled to his favor or outright won due to Kyuubi's influence.

mind actually naming any fight?
he beat Haku with the Kyuubi chakra, but since then i cant think of any fight he actually won becuase he loses control and/or the Kyuubi lends him a huge amount of chakra

you could make an argument for VS Neji, but it was Narutos trick that made it possible
TrojanSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 22:50:22
February 15 2012 22:50 GMT
#7918
Interesting chapter. Can't wait for part 2 of Itachi vs Sasuke!
malignant
Profile Joined August 2011
United States35 Posts
February 15 2012 22:52 GMT
#7919
One again, I would emphasize that the difficulty is in separating them.
There is -no- fight where Naruto was not being empowered by Kyuubi.
Ever since his parents put the thing inside him, he was and is empowered by it.
We could make conjectures and predictions on fights where Naruto could have won (easily) even if he were a normal person that is not empowered by Kyuubi. As I said, he has grown to a point where he is a formidable ninja in his own right.

However, everytime he does something that requires chakra then he is empowered by the Kyuubi.
So if there is a fight where he does not use chakra (any ninjutsu / genjutsu at all ) and still win then it would be an example where he won without Kyuubi's help. I just dont know any that comes to mind.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 22:58:14
February 15 2012 22:57 GMT
#7920
On February 16 2012 07:40 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 07:36 malignant wrote:

he didnt get Kyuubis chakra when he owned the immortal duo
he didnt get the Kyuubis chakra during his fight with Pain, yes he did lost control at one point but it didnt really accomplish anything for him
he didnt get chakra when he rasengan'd kabuto
he didnt get chakra against Gaara until Gaara unleashed his tailed beast form

90% of the time when he did get Chakra (not counting when he actually took control of Kurama) the opponent got away like against Orochimaru and Deidara

besides, Kuramas power is his power its like wining Kakashi and Sasuke rely on the Sharingan or how Neji and Hinata rely on the Byakugan its a power NAruto has that he worked hard to control

if Itachi and Sasuke do meet, nothing will come of it Sasukes not good enough at Genjutsu to trap Itachi and Itachi doesnt want to hurt his little bro, the most theyll do is have a heart to heart which will lay the groundwork for Sasukes redemption then hell go off and PWN Kabuto


I think the problem is that Naruto and Kyuubi's Chakra is pretty much inseparable.He either get a lot of chakra from Kyuubi (if Kyuubi is repressed by a seal) or a -FREAKING LOT- of chakra from Kyuubi (Kyuubi mode).

Naruto's favorite technique kagebunshin which won him a lot of fight is unusable to most people because they dont have kyyubi empowered chakra,
Without kagebunshin he cant even do a complete Rasengan.
While at this point in the manga Naruto certainly is a very experienced ninja that would probably do very very well even if he is no longer empowered by Kyuubi, his earlier fights are most certainly titled to his favor or outright won due to Kyuubi's influence.

mind actually naming any fight?
he beat Haku with the Kyuubi chakra, but since then i cant think of any fight he actually won becuase he loses control and/or the Kyuubi lends him a huge amount of chakra

you could make an argument for VS Neji, but it was Narutos trick that made it possible



That argument is kinda stupid.


Half the chars got some sort of Sharingan/Eyepower or other thing going for them. Naruta got the Fox... It does not seem that much better than what the other guys have (well, in the end it is but it does not seem out of placewtfimba).

btw: The only fight i remember which he really kinda won whiteout the (much) Fox, was the one where he used the Rasen Shurriken v1.0 (and hurt himself with it ).


If i would complain about one thing it is about genjutsu in general, that shit is just imbalanced beyond anything.
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