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On November 24 2011 00:47 Kaien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 14:14 RogerX wrote: I'm gonna lol if orochimaru comes up again orochimaru might still be alive, he revived when sasuke was fighting itachi and its quite unclear if the little snake got killed or escaped the amaterasu .. Not to mention that his cells are taking over Kabuto....
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the only thing about power levels to me is that it's always "new".
You get elements. Then which element beats the other is almost ALWAYS forgotten unless its rock against lightning, and it isn't used for naruto at all. He'll occasionally use his wind, but if he does it's random. When he goes to sage mode elements go out the window. When he goes to Tailed beast whatever elements and sage mode go out the window.
there's no mashing them together and developing them. there's no sense in it either because its not necessarily true that sage mode isnt actually more powerful than 9 tails mode anyway, but we'll never know because neither will be developed past when its "needed" for that arc, and then dropped for the most part. -
then it's going to be revealed that since the uzumaki tree IS the senju tree through marriage that naruto is going to straight waken a rinnengan himself but that since the ultimate sharingan evolution is ALSO a rinnengan we can have a final fight where they're the SAME with different viewpoints.
meh.
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On November 24 2011 01:28 Spessi wrote: When he goes to sage mode elements go out the window.
this is not true basically naruto only uses his wind element in sage mode, because otherwise it's too dangerous
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On November 23 2011 13:37 Monokeros wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 13:34 Dark_Chill wrote: I think the biggest problem with Naruto are the power levels. Dbz was nice enough to do it, and Naruto really needs it. People keep saying that Naruto (character) is so strong right now, but he's not. The kages (not all, not sure how strong tsunade really is) are stronger than him. The past kages are stronger than him. Killer Bee is stronger (much more experienced in combat and tailed beast). But, by far the biggest problem in the series is Itachi. Is he god now? He was ressurected, so no more illness, and I can't see him as someone who's stoppable. I would have said the same for Nagato, but Itachi killed him. fun fact Naruto is the strongest for Two very important reasons 1) He's the main character 2) He has the NINE-TAILED fox, which if properly utilized is THE strongest of the tailed beasts and the strongest thing on the planet NOT TO MENTION it only has half of its power inside of Naruto which should give you an idea of just how crazy strong it is. Ten tail is still the strongest. And how much stronger it is compared to other tails are just a guess right now, for all we know, nine tail just has the highest amount of charkara
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Wanna bet hes gonna go all 'Akatsuki defeated and capture each of you once, I only need to do it all at the same time' followed by him taking out 50% of them, losing chakra and then the kyuubi will come in to help.
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Fenrax
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Just a random idea. What if Tobi is the older son of the Sage of six Paths? He fought his younger brother and was sealed away by him. Younger brother lets his children escape and they found the Uchiha clan. Then much later someone manages to break his Seal but his body is already gone so he walks the world in his current incomplete state. This would explain why he knows about the Sage of six Paths and why he hates the Senju so much.
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On November 24 2011 12:57 Fenrax wrote: Just a random idea. What if Tobi is the older son of the Sage of six Paths? He fought his younger brother and was sealed away by him. Younger brother lets his children escape and they found the Uchiha clan. Then much later someone manages to break his Seal but his body is already gone so he walks the world in his current incomplete state. This would explain why he knows about the Sage of six Paths and why he hates the Senju so much. This man won the liquidbet for a reason. Yes! It makes perfect sense!
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if the person under the mask is naruto's dad lol
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Why would anyone want to see under Tobi's mask? Its just a trollface
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On November 25 2011 10:28 Cirn9 wrote: Why would anyone want to see under Tobi's mask? Its just a trollface
lmao omfg if that actually happened i would fly to japan and give kishimoto a hug
anyways when does the anime happen again. cuz im fuckign bored lately and i need more stuff to watch
also i still think tobi is just madara... but it's weird lol
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On November 25 2011 10:33 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 10:28 Cirn9 wrote: Why would anyone want to see under Tobi's mask? Its just a trollface lmao omfg if that actually happened i would fly to japan and give kishimoto a hug anyways when does the anime happen again. cuz im fuckign bored lately and i need more stuff to watch also i still think tobi is just madara... but it's weird lol That would be sooo stupid. Here is a super imba technic that apparently doesn't take any fucking chakra to do, it has 1 weakness, the target has to be dead. No wait you use it on living targets herp derp.
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well the entire point would be that tobi isn't living madara. he'd be like a clone, or ghost or something. which is what I and other people predicted months ago back when kabuto showed that last coffin.
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On November 25 2011 11:18 travis wrote: well the entire point would be that tobi isn't living madara. he'd be like a clone, or ghost or something. which is what I and other people predicted months ago back when kabuto showed that last coffin. Wouldn't that just be fantastic doing the same thing he mocked in the early days of Naruto. In the Narutoverse Naruto was like "Isn't clones ridiculously imba" and Kakashi went "Oh you silly bugger, they can be but there is one way to get rid of them. A clone can only take 1 direct hit, if they do they are gone". Tobi has taken direct hits.
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It depend on what kind of clone, if its the one that turns into a piece of wood when its hit then yes.
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On November 25 2011 13:29 Hynda wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 11:18 travis wrote: well the entire point would be that tobi isn't living madara. he'd be like a clone, or ghost or something. which is what I and other people predicted months ago back when kabuto showed that last coffin. Wouldn't that just be fantastic doing the same thing he mocked in the early days of Naruto. In the Narutoverse Naruto was like "Isn't clones ridiculously imba" and Kakashi went "Oh you silly bugger, they can be but there is one way to get rid of them. A clone can only take 1 direct hit, if they do they are gone". Tobi has taken direct hits.
What about Naruto's clones?
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United States15275 Posts
On November 24 2011 12:57 Fenrax wrote: Just a random idea. What if Tobi is the older son of the Sage of six Paths? He fought his younger brother and was sealed away by him. Younger brother lets his children escape and they found the Uchiha clan. Then much later someone manages to break his Seal but his body is already gone so he walks the world in his current incomplete state. This would explain why he knows about the Sage of six Paths and why he hates the Senju so much.
A-ha! I almost came to the same conclusion a long time ago.
Also Tobi cannot be the spirit/soul of Madara. That would directly contradict the use of Dead Demon Consuming Seal to stop the First and Second Hokage when they were resurrected by Orochimaru. We can reasonably ascertain that the Madara Kabuto brought back to life possesses his spirit as well.
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err I don't know about this next fight between Naruto and Tobi... all of those dudes have a rinnegan and sharingan and each one has a tailed beast (or atleast a part) and they are all good shinobi in the first place. If this manga was at all realistic then Naruto would get holyshit owned. This is the kind of fight you want the six kages backing you up on.
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I don't agree. Most of the tailed beasts have shown they were massive pussies compared to naruto and bee, and also these fools get stupider as zombies rite?
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On November 25 2011 16:21 Hyperbola wrote: err I don't know about this next fight between Naruto and Tobi... all of those dudes have a rinnegan and sharingan and each one has a tailed beast (or atleast a part) and they are all good shinobi in the first place. If this manga was at all realistic then Naruto would get holyshit owned. This is the kind of fight you want the six kages backing you up on. They don't have a part of a tailed beasts, as the beasts have left their hosts who are now all dead. They are not summoned through impure world resurrection, just dead bodies Tobi reanimates using the Rinnegan. The remainder of the beasts that aren't Kyuubi or Hachibi are in the sealing statue if I'm not mistaken?
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