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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
December 12 2009 06:45 GMT
#2281
I thought the power of prediction of what Kakashi doing is merely combining his knowledge in recognizing of the beginning of the hand seal sequence for whatever skill his opponent is using, and then perform that same hand seal late but finishing it before the opponent finishes his. Which in terms creates an illusion that he predicted and used the same skill as his opponent did. But in fact he was just doing it faster and using the eye memorized sequence as a tool to recognize the skill. As we can see in none of his fights with competent opponents later in the series has he ever used that ability which earned him his nick name. Mostly due to chakara type differences since higher lvl skills requires each ninja's native chakara type to preform, and he only has lightning base. Where as Sasuke has both lightning and Fire, which allows him to develop his mealstorm you will see later on.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 12 2009 10:50 GMT
#2282
On December 12 2009 15:45 rei wrote:
I thought the power of prediction of what Kakashi doing is merely combining his knowledge in recognizing of the beginning of the hand seal sequence for whatever skill his opponent is using, and then perform that same hand seal late but finishing it before the opponent finishes his. Which in terms creates an illusion that he predicted and used the same skill as his opponent did. But in fact he was just doing it faster and using the eye memorized sequence as a tool to recognize the skill. As we can see in none of his fights with competent opponents later in the series has he ever used that ability which earned him his nick name. Mostly due to chakara type differences since higher lvl skills requires each ninja's native chakara type to preform, and he only has lightning base. Where as Sasuke has both lightning and Fire, which allows him to develop his mealstorm you will see later on.

I guess that's true, but that is why I said with uncertainty that I haven't seen anyone else use it in a fight. The amount of fights we have seen done by Itachi against skilled opponents is low, for example. I was just listing it as a possibility.
Peace~
cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
December 12 2009 11:06 GMT
#2283
In the chunin exams, Kakashi said that it was believed that the Sharingan evolved from Byakugan or something, well since we now know that it actually came from the Rinegan, where does that leave the Byakugan?
Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 12 2009 11:35 GMT
#2284
On December 12 2009 20:06 cosiant wrote:
In the chunin exams, Kakashi said that it was believed that the Sharingan evolved from Byakugan or something, well since we now know that it actually came from the Rinegan, where does that leave the Byakugan?

Byakugan probably came from it as well.
Peace~
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 13 2009 00:02 GMT
#2285
On December 12 2009 10:15 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 10:02 Linx_101 wrote:
Can someone fully explain the differences between the Byakugan, the Rinnegan and the Sharingan? I keep reading that the Sharingan is the "ultimate" eye and can destroy the others. I find this hard to believe as the Rinnegan can do all of the things that fantacist said and the byakugan can.....well who knows. It just seems far-fetched.

Well the Rinnegan is actually the "ultimate" eye technique. The places you are reading that are probably outdated, geared towards the first Naruto series.

Sharingan has the following benefits:
Genjutsu (and control over tailed beasts)
Quick and accurate perception
Power of predicting movement
Seeing through genjutsu
Basic chakra flow reading
And with the Mangekyu you get one or more of the following:
Amaterasu, Tsukyomi, Kakashi's technique/Madara's similar technique, Susanoo
However, Mangekyu is almost separate from sharingan because it has to be awoken in a special way and only a few people have so far unlocked it (coincidentally the few Sharingan users still alive, and we are not sure yet whether or not Danzou has it). However these abilities cast an even heavier toll on the person, beyond chakra - blindness, physical damage.

Byaakugan has the following:
Nearly perfect sphere of vision
Ability to see chakra flow along pathways and see the pressure points
X-ray vision (almost)
Insane distance vision
Quick and accurate perception

Rinnegan's abilities are very loosely defined, but the two people known to have it had these benefits (both lists combined):
Control over tailed beasts
Ability to master all jutsu
Shared eyes with multiple bodies (shared field of vision)
Probably clarity of vision is increased as well, or a power increase (early Pain's battles against superior opponents).


Thanks for the cool writeup!

Also, does Byakugan have any other powers? I vaguely remember them saying something about how the Hyuuga clan's gentle fist was reliant on the Byakugan. Was it solely to see pressure points or does the byakugan somehow enhance their fighting prowess?
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
December 13 2009 00:43 GMT
#2286
On December 12 2009 10:18 fanatacist wrote:
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On December 12 2009 10:15 numLoCK wrote:
Can someone explain to me why Sasuke has all of the same MS abilities as Itachi, and no others? I mean, if all of the MS users have unique abilities shouldn't Sasuke have some of his own, even if Itachi hooked him up with his?
And has any other normal Sharingans had specific abilities? Shisui is mentioned as being able to control people or whatever, but do other people have abilities specific to their eyes?

Itachi basically gave the MS to Sasuke. Sasuke didn't do anything to unlock it himself. So he basically has Itachi's eyes in every sense but the physical.

I don't think there have been any other unique plain sharingan techniques other than Shisui's. I haven't seen any of the other sharingan users use the power of prediction as well as Kakashi, though.

He obtained Mangekyou by killing Itachi, no?

Sasuke's mangekyou looks like a kaleidoscope. Itachi's mangekyou only appeared when Madara showed up. This probably means that Itachi had the ability to program a mangekyou activation in anybody he wanted.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
December 13 2009 01:09 GMT
#2287
i think itachi transfered his ms to sasuke which activated a stronger one in sasuke. I think its more like he ha to give up his to transfer it.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 13 2009 09:48 GMT
#2288
On December 13 2009 09:43 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 10:18 fanatacist wrote:
On December 12 2009 10:15 numLoCK wrote:
Can someone explain to me why Sasuke has all of the same MS abilities as Itachi, and no others? I mean, if all of the MS users have unique abilities shouldn't Sasuke have some of his own, even if Itachi hooked him up with his?
And has any other normal Sharingans had specific abilities? Shisui is mentioned as being able to control people or whatever, but do other people have abilities specific to their eyes?

Itachi basically gave the MS to Sasuke. Sasuke didn't do anything to unlock it himself. So he basically has Itachi's eyes in every sense but the physical.

I don't think there have been any other unique plain sharingan techniques other than Shisui's. I haven't seen any of the other sharingan users use the power of prediction as well as Kakashi, though.

He obtained Mangekyou by killing Itachi, no?

Sasuke's mangekyou looks like a kaleidoscope. Itachi's mangekyou only appeared when Madara showed up. This probably means that Itachi had the ability to program a mangekyou activation in anybody he wanted.

Who knows, maybe it took Itachi's eye form because Itachi used his eye to program that into Sasuke's brain, using it as a projector after the activation. The projector had to put the image on an appropriate canvas - that of a sharingan user's eye. It simply doesn't make sense for people who don't have the sharingan to use MS as they saw fit. The whole catch of MS is that it is unique and exclusive to people who underwent a traumatic trial, so making it so easy to pass off to others seems unlikely, especially outside the Uchiha. I don't think it ever explicitly said that Sasuke killing Itachi gave him MS, either.
Peace~
darkjustice
Profile Joined June 2009
Afghanistan15 Posts
December 16 2009 19:16 GMT
#2289
http://www.mangastream.com/read/naruto/476-14/1

wat u know bout that
habalahabala
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
December 16 2009 19:40 GMT
#2290
On December 17 2009 04:16 darkjustice wrote:
http://www.mangastream.com/read/naruto/476-14/1

wat u know bout that



+ Show Spoiler +
Ooh snap, Sasuke is going to loose it! Wtf is up with naruto?
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 16 2009 19:55 GMT
#2291
danzowned.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 20:27:03
December 16 2009 20:25 GMT
#2292
+ Show Spoiler +
wait what did i just see? Sharigan fights are so lame
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
December 16 2009 20:31 GMT
#2293
On December 16 2009 14:33 IdrA wrote:
pvp is so funny

they just sit there hurling imbalanced shit at each other


That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
December 16 2009 20:41 GMT
#2294
Sasuke is pretty newb not to see the Danzlone.
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
December 16 2009 20:43 GMT
#2295
yo watch, danzou is actually in genjutsu as well
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 16 2009 20:53 GMT
#2296
Thanks for the link. Mangastream is way better than onemanga. It comes out earlier AND with a higher resolution.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
December 16 2009 20:54 GMT
#2297
On December 17 2009 05:43 ilovejonn wrote:
yo watch, danzou is actually in genjutsu as well

holy shit way to spoil it!
Retired BW Noob
TealLurker
Profile Joined June 2008
United States791 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 22:48:31
December 16 2009 22:45 GMT
#2298
In the mere span of some 40 chapters, we went from badass Naruto tossing rhinos left and right to fail Naruto hyperventilating over his boyfriend, Sasuke. Great...

I just hope that Danzou doesn't pull out like 7 Mangekyou Sharingans at the same time, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
December 17 2009 02:32 GMT
#2299
i want to see sasuke poke danzo's arm with a stick
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
December 17 2009 02:40 GMT
#2300
lol why's fanatacist banned again? what did he do?
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