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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
January 28 2018 05:38 GMT
#3301
if the energy of destruction around him dissolves the ki blasts, why doesnt it just melt face when he punches people
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 28 2018 06:27 GMT
#3302
Looked into the dub for the key scenes of the U6 arc it’s gotten to so far.

Actually a really good production. Well done.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Suchbalancemuchwow
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
76 Posts
January 28 2018 13:45 GMT
#3303
Why... is god of destruction a transformation. Actually why is this justice obsessed guy even interested in being a god of destruction? Why is a change in mindset (which he already experienced at the middle of the tournament before going back to his JUSTICE shtick) enough to ''access'' his powers?
Why is 17 strong enough to survive against a god of destruction level opponent for longer than 2 seconds? Why does damage never mean anything? Toppo was damaged right?

Yea, whatever.




TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
January 28 2018 14:21 GMT
#3304
It's super... that's not out of the ordinary.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 28 2018 14:39 GMT
#3305
17 is cleaerly the MVP of the tournament given his power. I'm sure keeping frieza in the arena will have some impact in the end, even if it's a +1 fighter at the time limit
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 28 2018 15:02 GMT
#3306
Until they're knocked out, even if they were almost knocked out before, they're not defeated. DBZ logic.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
January 28 2018 15:31 GMT
#3307
On January 28 2018 22:45 Suchbalancemuchwow wrote:
Why... is god of destruction a transformation. Actually why is this justice obsessed guy even interested in being a god of destruction? Why is a change in mindset (which he already experienced at the middle of the tournament before going back to his JUSTICE shtick) enough to ''access'' his powers?
Why is 17 strong enough to survive against a god of destruction level opponent for longer than 2 seconds? Why does damage never mean anything? Toppo was damaged right?

Yea, whatever.






Are you really asking us to explain the physics of anime?
alone
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland410 Posts
January 28 2018 15:57 GMT
#3308
On January 28 2018 23:39 GoTuNk! wrote:
17 is cleaerly the MVP of the tournament given his power. I'm sure keeping frieza in the arena will have some impact in the end, even if it's a +1 fighter at the time limit


Yep, 17 is gonna be last fighter eliminated. Everyone is gonna think its a tie at the end untill theyll hear frieza snoring somewhere on a rock.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 28 2018 16:01 GMT
#3309
On January 28 2018 22:45 Suchbalancemuchwow wrote:
Why... is god of destruction a transformation. Actually why is this justice obsessed guy even interested in being a god of destruction? Why is a change in mindset (which he already experienced at the middle of the tournament before going back to his JUSTICE shtick) enough to ''access'' his powers?
Why is 17 strong enough to survive against a god of destruction level opponent for longer than 2 seconds? Why does damage never mean anything? Toppo was damaged right?

Yea, whatever.







DB is a series in which a Green bug from the futur need to absorb two cyborg to dominate the world, it's a silly but fun kid show, not Anna Karenina. Character motivations isn't exactly DB forte.
They set up God of destruction Topo, he was desperate, abandon his moral principle and decided to accept the destruction power, it's enough for me.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 28 2018 16:11 GMT
#3310
That whole "justice" shtick is just some hypocritical load of crap. Hated all of it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
January 28 2018 16:36 GMT
#3311
On January 29 2018 01:01 Nakajin wrote:
DB is a series in which a Green bug from the futur need to absorb two cyborg to dominate the world, it's a silly but fun kid show, not Anna Karenina. Character motivations isn't exactly DB forte.
They set up God of destruction Topo, he was desperate, abandon his moral principle and decided to accept the destruction power, it's enough for me.


'DBS is not Anna Karenina' sounds about right for a new signature.

And yes, win by Frieza waking up OHOHOHO while the other four are godmoding it sounds like a less stupid ending scenario - just wondering why exactly Gohan was passed for 17 as last of the 'human' fighters, maybe his merch sales are still somehow strong enough.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
January 28 2018 16:58 GMT
#3312
Is 17 that loved by fan ? I really don't like him why did they gave him so much screentime '--
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
January 28 2018 17:04 GMT
#3313
Well, they still have Fusion to fall back to. Even if it only lasts 'FIVE MINUTES' (Frieza is even there!).
Obviously Frieza will be back to do some kind of critical distraction at the right time, like Vegeta did vs Perfect Cell.

Still, as it currently stands, Jiren can still deal with both Goku and Vegeta and 17 can only run from Toppo.

And DB is just not the kind of show where U7 actually gets to run out the timer so I'm curious what they're gonna pull to even things up (if not Fusion).
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 28 2018 17:12 GMT
#3314
We all know it's basically a farce until Ultra Instinct comes back.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
January 28 2018 17:29 GMT
#3315
True, but now Hakai-shin Toppo and His Godly Moustache cannot be ignored anymore.

Also, to all who feared for Super's future, I've dug up Bandai/Namco's financial statements here www.bandainamco.co.jp

You can clearly see on page 2 DB's making a ton of money - it's litterally their golden goose. Between that and the fact Goku's been chosen as the mascot of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, we gonna get some DB for years to come.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 28 2018 19:09 GMT
#3316
On January 29 2018 02:29 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
True, but now Hakai-shin Toppo and His Godly Moustache cannot be ignored anymore.

Also, to all who feared for Super's future, I've dug up Bandai/Namco's financial statements here www.bandainamco.co.jp

You can clearly see on page 2 DB's making a ton of money - it's litterally their golden goose. Between that and the fact Goku's been chosen as the mascot of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, we gonna get some DB for years to come.


I hope you are right :'(
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
January 28 2018 19:36 GMT
#3317
On January 29 2018 04:09 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2018 02:29 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
True, but now Hakai-shin Toppo and His Godly Moustache cannot be ignored anymore.

Also, to all who feared for Super's future, I've dug up Bandai/Namco's financial statements here www.bandainamco.co.jp

You can clearly see on page 2 DB's making a ton of money - it's litterally their golden goose. Between that and the fact Goku's been chosen as the mascot of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, we gonna get some DB for years to come.


I hope you are right :'(


Thanks ! Let's put it this way : those earning numbers put the value of the Dragon Ball franchise somewhere between $5 and $15 billions. Last year, it made more money worldwide than One Piece, Naruto and Yo-Kai Watch combined. If they spun it off as an independent company, it would still be big enough to be in the bottom of the S&P 500 index. It's much bigger than any single person's decisions, except for Toriyama's, who is probably in the circa ~$100mln net worth range himself thanks to it, and now gives interviews in Forbes due to the show's popularity ( www.forbes.com ).

Bottom line is, DB as a business really is flourishing.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 28 2018 19:37 GMT
#3318
On January 29 2018 01:58 Mun_Su wrote:
Is 17 that loved by fan ? I really don't like him why did they gave him so much screentime '--


He appears to be. I actually really like him. Out of all the fighters for Universe 7, he seems to be the one with the most common sense. He's not even trying to defeat Toppo, just trying to buy as much time so that they win when time runs out.

At first I didn't care for him to be added, but he's grown on me a lot this arc. I loved how he interrupted a transformation because the people were wide open (rebrienne and other girls), I really enjoy how he's doing everything as smart as he can. Really impressed with how the writers made him this arc.
When I think of something else, something will go here
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-28 20:25:02
January 28 2018 20:24 GMT
#3319
has it been two episodes since vegeta's last powerup yet?

must be time to give him another one then lol...

i dont think they've shown the peak of any of toppo, jiren, vegeta or goku.

beerus said that toppo hasn't mastered his GoD energy. duh he just tapped into it 2 seconds ago.

vegeta seems to be getting massive powerups every couple episodes now. i dont think he has actually achieved Perfect SSB yet but he will next episode or the episode after

goku hasn't perfected ultra instinct

jiren is nowhere near showing his 100%

jiren seemed like he wasn't very happy that toppo decided to go the GoD route, maybe something interesting will happen because of that? maybe they have goku and vegeta on the ropes but toppo goes too far and jiren eliminates him, robbing them of the chance to eliminate U7 before time runs out, and U11 loses with only jiren left but U7 still has vegeta and goku

we could still see both the kaioshins of U7 and U11 toss in their potaras as well

i think toppo will take out 17 and frieza next episode, the preview all but came out and said that was what is gonna happen. vegeta will get his final powerup and eliminate toppo. jiren will go to 100% and eliminate vegeta. then jiren will beat goku like a red headed stepchild for an episode or two before goku goes ultra instinct again. beerus or whis will say something that makes zero sense about how goku has perfected UI because something something and goku will win.

there's only what 5 episodes left? or 6? business is about to pick up
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6258 Posts
January 28 2018 20:48 GMT
#3320
On January 29 2018 04:36 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2018 04:09 GoTuNk! wrote:
On January 29 2018 02:29 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
True, but now Hakai-shin Toppo and His Godly Moustache cannot be ignored anymore.

Also, to all who feared for Super's future, I've dug up Bandai/Namco's financial statements here www.bandainamco.co.jp

You can clearly see on page 2 DB's making a ton of money - it's litterally their golden goose. Between that and the fact Goku's been chosen as the mascot of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, we gonna get some DB for years to come.


I hope you are right :'(


Thanks ! Let's put it this way : those earning numbers put the value of the Dragon Ball franchise somewhere between $5 and $15 billions. Last year, it made more money worldwide than One Piece, Naruto and Yo-Kai Watch combined. If they spun it off as an independent company, it would still be big enough to be in the bottom of the S&P 500 index. It's much bigger than any single person's decisions, except for Toriyama's, who is probably in the circa ~$100mln net worth range himself thanks to it, and now gives interviews in Forbes due to the show's popularity ( www.forbes.com ).

Bottom line is, DB as a business really is flourishing.

Where do you get the value from? All I see are yearly earnings of around 500m$ (60 billion yen).
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