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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 29 2017 18:38 GMT
#2721
On October 30 2017 02:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2017 23:45 ETisME wrote:
Isn't goku base form extremely powerful now since he absorbed the god ki?
Or is that gone already

From what I can tell that's pretty much retconned especially since God is its own transformation now.


sometime it feel like the anime scenarist themselves don't now :p

But it was weird to see Goku put an even fight in base form against a SSJ2, no matter how trained you are if the opponent is way faster and stronger (like Vegeta vs Cell, or Piccolo vs Freeza after 3rd form)... It was like going from base to SSJ2 didn't add that much power to Goku.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
MoneyHypeMike
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada305 Posts
October 30 2017 00:05 GMT
#2722
I can't believe we saw more of Ribrianne than Vegeta.
This is ridiculous...
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
October 30 2017 00:20 GMT
#2723
On October 30 2017 09:05 MoneyHypeMike wrote:
I can't believe we saw more of Ribrianne than Vegeta.
This is ridiculous...


Feel like we could have at least got some good proxy rage through Vegeta on seeing Kale and Caulifa transform. Should have been some good elitism and sexism from him.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 30 2017 00:20 GMT
#2724
I was bored by this episode. Don't know why they made a huge deal about SSJ 3 when everybody already saw Goku going blue. It was weird that he went SSJ 3 when he got carried away. Isn't blue (or even red) more powerful and less stamina draining?
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
October 30 2017 10:15 GMT
#2725
On October 30 2017 09:20 andrewlt wrote:
I was bored by this episode. Don't know why they made a huge deal about SSJ 3 when everybody already saw Goku going blue. It was weird that he went SSJ 3 when he got carried away. Isn't blue (or even red) more powerful and less stamina draining?

I dont think he got carried away. He is mostly doing some training with both of them and since they want to go SS3, they gave them a look at it.
n_n
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
October 30 2017 11:49 GMT
#2726
I assume that seeing someone turn SSJ (or whatever next level) is just absurdly helpful in doing the same thing. It's a little weird that just experiencing another person do it makes so much of a difference, but I don't mind it.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Bourgeois
Profile Joined June 2017
81 Posts
October 30 2017 13:29 GMT
#2727
This show is just so terrible I've stopped watching it. Just from reading these comments, Dragon Ball is no longer the great anime I used to watch where Nappa was killing people left and right and there was real desperation. Now you got bullshit like "believe in the power of love!" or "Son Goku I'm so mad because I'm a wimpy bitch!" Jesus Christ. Like Suits, I'm out. I don't really give a shit what happens anymore, life is too short to be spending half an hour each week tolerating this garbage.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 30 2017 14:11 GMT
#2728
lol yes if you don't enjoy it I would recommend you to stop watching. Sounds like you really hate it so good decision! You only live once.
When I think of something else, something will go here
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
October 30 2017 23:34 GMT
#2729
I was pretty irritated by zen-oh for a while, but something about him casually erasing people and universes triggers some of that Nappa like nostalgia.

Ribrianne did feel like a market research firm's epically bad idea to appeal to more female viewers.

Overall I'm happy with the show so far, not "impressed" but they have time to wow me still.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
October 31 2017 00:58 GMT
#2730
I think its fair to say the shoe, particularly the ToP has been mediocre.

It has had great moments: Goku vs Jiren, Roshi episodes, Vegeta betrays Frost, frost erased.
It has had terrible moments: Every second Ribrianne appears, almost every second Gohan appears, Piccolo and tien have let us down, etc.

And it all averages to neither good nor bad, just mediocre.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9052 Posts
October 31 2017 03:27 GMT
#2731
Freeza betrayed Frost.

Gohan hasn't been given an opportunity to do anything.

Piccolo is staying close to Gohan so he doesn't have to exert much stamina/energy.power so when he's needed, he can be
full strength. Notice he hasn't really gone even near 50% yet of his power.

The thing we should be worried about is Vegeta being jobbed against Jiren.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
October 31 2017 10:52 GMT
#2732
I really want to see Vegeta explode by thinking of the possibility of losing bulma and is 2 child. A bit like he did when beerus hit bulma.
n_n
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 22:02:17
October 31 2017 21:59 GMT
#2733
The manga is a bit better, but yeah, this is no longer quality anime/manga.
The god thing was hijack from the manga, tje!manga didn't state the "he absorbed god ki" god form remained a transformation and the anime decided to roll back to that. It seems that most of their decision don't really care for anything, it's just a "let's do this"
Toryama did write some holes and he himself admited forgotting details and just focusing on a great plot. And he achieced that. Super is not close
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 05 2017 02:32 GMT
#2734
Lol, animation budget ran out in the last 2 minutes?

Episode was pretty alright today. Not amazing, not awful.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 05 2017 02:52 GMT
#2735
Yeah it was better than I thought it would be tbh. It was nice to see SSG destroying Kale and Caulifla.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 03:19:40
November 05 2017 03:17 GMT
#2736
I wonder if Kefla will last the full hour. I mean they def aren't as powerful as Vegito who has like a 10 min limit because he is so powerful.

Seems like she is pretty powerful if that the episode title is any indication that the SSJ fusion beats Blue (tho obv weakened Blue).
Never Knows Best.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9052 Posts
November 05 2017 05:27 GMT
#2737
That's that bullshit. Give me Gogeta please!?!? SSB Gogeta would rekt faec
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
November 05 2017 05:58 GMT
#2738
This doesn't make sense though.

Goku S2 was on par with the two of them. Then he went to God just to show off and kick their asses. Now their fusion of one SS2 and one SS1 should be kind of like Vegito from DBZ in power, or sightly above super boo level in power. That means Goku should still be able to kick their asses without even looking in SSG.

Like, even if you want to say Kale's SS is super strong and what not...Goku was dealing with her on SS2.... You can't jump from SS2->stronger than GoD.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9052 Posts
November 05 2017 06:11 GMT
#2739
On November 05 2017 14:58 [Phantom] wrote:
This doesn't make sense though.

Goku S2 was on par with the two of them. Then he went to God just to show off and kick their asses. Now their fusion of one SS2 and one SS1 should be kind of like Vegito from DBZ in power, or sightly above super boo level in power. That means Goku should still be able to kick their asses without even looking in SSG.

Like, even if you want to say Kale's SS is super strong and what not...Goku was dealing with her on SS2.... You can't jump from SS2->stronger than GoD.

Have you not been watching this series?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 06:29:05
November 05 2017 06:26 GMT
#2740
If anything Goku being able to keep up is the bigger stretch. After barely being able to move to being able to get SSG mode after fighting? Goku gaining energy while fighting is basically plot armor as the Caulifa by herself should have been able to beat Goku as he was.

Goku was tapped out and injured but managed to reach SSG and stomp the Kale in Beserker form and SSJ2 Caulifa.

Goku is still exhausted so even if he is able to go Blue it makes sense that his power is still nerfed which is why he might lose.

Also reminder that Vegeta stated that Cabba's BASE FORM was on par with his own during the exhibition arc and Kale/Caulifa > Cabba. Not to mention Kale is an exception since they are doing the Legendary SS thing with her. Don't underestimate the U6 Sayians. They are strong but they just lack the knowledge of the transformations.
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