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On November 10 2013 16:29 FractalsOnFire wrote:
I prefer this show over Breaking Bad. I love the politics, the bullshit and the social commentary.
Me too..Breaking bad is all fiction and is well written and well acted so I like that show quite a lot too..But The Wire is one of the only shows that Explains both sides of the coin..Why the police did what they did (Hamsterdam..Damn what an Idea), and why the drug dealers do what they do..This kind of social commentary and insight is what makes the Wire possibly THE Best show to have ever existed.
Just finished Season 4..I have no words now
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On November 17 2013 00:34 FractalsOnFire wrote:
What's with all the hate on Season 5 I see?
They had to cut s5 down from the 13 eps that were planned (and what a show of this quality deserved) to the 10 we got. It's still top-tier TV ofc, but I think you really feel how rushed it is in some regards.
I had a hard time really getting into the Baltimore Sun characters. The stevadores, teachers/students, politicians, and ofc the police all had a way of really pulling you into their world. I didn't get that as much from the journalists. I mean the only character that stuck with me from that bunch was the douchebag who lied his ass off at every turn to get ahead. He was just shameless xD. It's sad too, I feel given more time, focusing in on the news had a lot of potential to be just as great as the previous institutions they introduced. It doesn't totally fall flat, but ultimately the story just isn't as compelling for them.
Also, though the phony-serial killer plot from McNulty was entertaining to watch, it really felt like a bit of a reach. The resolution to the copycat killer in the end happened a little too fast as well.
Then there's Omar....to which I have mixed feelings as to how he went out. It was at least cool how he kinda fucked over Marlo in the end by ruining his rep though :D
I have to give it to them on the final ep at least. Even under the rushed constraints that was one of the most satisfactory endings to any show I've ever seen.
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I just finished season 4. This show pulls on the heart strings way more than something like Game of Thrones. Bodie dying made me legitimately upset. Marlo is one fucked up dude to kill off people he's working with just because he's suspicious. At least Stringer had a reason to do that shit. The Barksdale crew had loyalty and comradeship but Marlo is just an asshole. I haven't seen season 5 yet, but with the show ending I hope he gets his just desserts.
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On November 17 2013 06:01 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 00:34 FractalsOnFire wrote:
What's with all the hate on Season 5 I see? They had to cut s5 down from the 13 eps that were planned (and what a show of this quality deserved) to the 10 we got. It's still top-tier TV ofc, but I think you really feel how rushed it is in some regards. I had a hard time really getting into the Baltimore Sun characters. The stevadores, teachers/students, politicians, and ofc the police all had a way of really pulling you into their world. I didn't get that as much from the journalists. I mean the only character that stuck with me from that bunch was the douchebag who lied his ass off at every turn to get ahead. He was just shameless xD. It's sad too, I feel given more time, focusing in on the news had a lot of potential to be just as great as the previous institutions they introduced. It doesn't totally fall flat, but ultimately the story just isn't as compelling for them. Also, though the phony-serial killer plot from McNulty was entertaining to watch, it really felt like a bit of a reach. The resolution to the copycat killer in the end happened a little too fast as well. Then there's Omar....to which I have mixed feelings as to how he went out. It was at least cool how he kinda fucked over Marlo in the end by ruining his rep though :D I have to give it to them on the final ep at least. Even under the rushed constraints that was one of the most satisfactory endings to any show I've ever seen.
Really? I felt for Gus, dunno about that Alma chick but I thought there was enough there to at least feel for the editor.
Is it cause Omar was suddenly ganked by a little kid? instead of the same as Stringer where it was all pre planned?
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On November 17 2013 17:31 FractalsOnFire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 06:01 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On November 17 2013 00:34 FractalsOnFire wrote:
What's with all the hate on Season 5 I see? They had to cut s5 down from the 13 eps that were planned (and what a show of this quality deserved) to the 10 we got. It's still top-tier TV ofc, but I think you really feel how rushed it is in some regards. I had a hard time really getting into the Baltimore Sun characters. The stevadores, teachers/students, politicians, and ofc the police all had a way of really pulling you into their world. I didn't get that as much from the journalists. I mean the only character that stuck with me from that bunch was the douchebag who lied his ass off at every turn to get ahead. He was just shameless xD. It's sad too, I feel given more time, focusing in on the news had a lot of potential to be just as great as the previous institutions they introduced. It doesn't totally fall flat, but ultimately the story just isn't as compelling for them. Also, though the phony-serial killer plot from McNulty was entertaining to watch, it really felt like a bit of a reach. The resolution to the copycat killer in the end happened a little too fast as well. Then there's Omar....to which I have mixed feelings as to how he went out. It was at least cool how he kinda fucked over Marlo in the end by ruining his rep though :D I have to give it to them on the final ep at least. Even under the rushed constraints that was one of the most satisfactory endings to any show I've ever seen. Really? I felt for Gus, dunno about that Alma chick but I thought there was enough there to at least feel for the editor. Is it cause Omar was suddenly ganked by a little kid? instead of the same as Stringer where it was all pre planned?
Yes it's because Omar was taken out by Kenard. Like I said mixed feelings. It has its pros because it did play into the conclusion well, in that Omar's death is passed around the hood as legend when in actuality a mere child took him down. Meanwhile, Marlo's impact on the streets is fading. The con being that...a fucking kid took out Omar. Badass, damn near immortal Omar, just shot in the head in an instant by Kenard..
I wasn't hoping for a more cinematic death like Stringer's, that scene could've gone down exactly the same...except have Micheal do it instead of Kenard. Would've worked too, since Micheal kinda plays the successor to Omar in the end and in a scene prior Micheal knows Omar doesn't recognize him from an earlier ambush so he could've got the drop on him. To me that feels like a more worthy adversary and would've been a symbolic way of passing the torch to Micheal.
Although, I did notice upon multiple viewings that way back in s3 Kenard is actually one of the kids imitating Omar's shootout just after he robs a stash. Skip to s5, and Kenard expresses his disappointment at the "gimpy" state Omar is in prior to killing him in the convenience store. I can't decide if it's mere coincidence or a subtle message in bringing Bunk's warning to Omar full-circle in that his actions are also destructive to the community despite his noble qualities. The kid admiring Omar ultimately kills him in the future. Just a thought :p
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Omar's weakness was children. He always underestimated them. Remember some scenes where he keep saying "He just a kid" or something like that. I remember seeing Michael takling to Marlo and Omar calls Mike just a kid too. And not looking at kids as a form of threat cost him his life. Like Avon said, "be a little slow, be a little late, just once..."
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Finished watching the series for the 3rd time.
No series comes even close.
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Late to the party but after hearing about how The Wire is such a great TV show, finally finished it up.
Top Drawer.
Do people have a favorite season? Seems like a show where people can easily have an opinion given how the focus changes.
edit: I would probably pick season 4. It was that much more grueling once you got to know the kids who end up in the game. shiiiiiit.
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I mean:
shiiiiit
~Clay Davis.
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HOLY FUCK you just made my day!
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OMG YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
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That is a good read, thanks 
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Good to see the show returning in HD. I loved the Wire, rewatched episodes multiple times.
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cant wait to rewatch this in glorious 1080p
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What must be done to make something HD? I'm curious.
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david simon's blog post a few posts above details his thought process behind it quite well
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Sounds like so much work and trouble. I could never do it.
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EPT
