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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
But no, let's just let the splinter faction with our moles deal with possible world ending threats involving alien technology, and an entire elite Hydra operation, then charge in with heavy artillery afterwards. I mean, it's obviously just a way to force Sky out of SHIELD and in with the rest of the Inhumans, but seriously? | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
but in all seriousness, if you're going to point out these obvious flaws, you could start with the start of s2: they were on the run, hunted by the US A and other forces, and it looked like the whole SHIELD was down to the core team and the three fat brothers. some episodes later they again have a whole agency running w/ equipment and staff. so if that many SHIELD agents were able to go undetected despite soldiers storming bases left and right, why not an entire carrier. plus: don't ever underestimate Admiral Adama! | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On April 04 2015 21:31 Hryul wrote: they have a carrier. your argument is invalid. but in all seriousness, if you're going to point out these obvious flaws, you could start with the start of s2: they were on the run, hunted by the US A and other forces, and it looked like the whole SHIELD was down to the core team and the three fat brothers. some episodes later they again have a whole agency running w/ equipment and staff. so if that many SHIELD agents were able to go undetected despite soldiers storming bases left and right, why not an entire carrier. plus: don't ever underestimate Admiral Adama! Well, there was supposed to be like a several month skip in between s1 and s2? So I can accept that Coulson's SHIELD managed to recruit a bigger team and set up base somewhere. I don't even mind that there is an aircraft carrier for the second SHIELD. I don't even mind that there is a second SHIELD. It's more that they're supposed to have somewhat sympathetic causes, despite you know, being absolutely useless except to screw over the main cast. I think I'd actually be happier with the story if the three leaders just went "Lol, kidding, we're just power hungry assholes" from here on. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
I don't know. maybe they were doing useful stuff offscreen. I mean they are a secret org after all. maybe they had bigger trouble to stay afloat than coulson because they didn't have access to Fury's secrets. (which may or may not include bazillions of dollars) or maybe they knew they had to get rid of Coulson's SHIELD before they got to work. I mean it's not like they were building up "real SHIELD" for years. (half) a year is sufficient for me to not get too suspicions. maybe they are really evil and just play good guys for mockingbird. or maybe it's just lazy writing. we have to wait i guess. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On April 05 2015 02:42 WolfintheSheep wrote: Well, there was supposed to be like a several month skip in between s1 and s2? So I can accept that Coulson's SHIELD managed to recruit a bigger team and set up base somewhere. I don't even mind that there is an aircraft carrier for the second SHIELD. I don't even mind that there is a second SHIELD. It's more that they're supposed to have somewhat sympathetic causes, despite you know, being absolutely useless except to screw over the main cast. I think I'd actually be happier with the story if the three leaders just went "Lol, kidding, we're just power hungry assholes" from here on. Remember Victoria Hand's position on Coulson's team in Turn, Turn, Turn? That was the latest opinion of him that SHIELD higher-ups shared before it collapsed. Add to it that they discovered exactly what happened to him when he died and that he went crazy for a time afterwards and they're right to be concerned. The only way they can restart what they see as the "real" SHIELD is if they get Nick Fury's toolbox, and that required subtlety rather than force. The real plot hole is how damned long it took for them to find it. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On April 05 2015 04:15 deth2munkies wrote: Remember Victoria Hand's position on Coulson's team in Turn, Turn, Turn? That was the latest opinion of him that SHIELD higher-ups shared before it collapsed. Add to it that they discovered exactly what happened to him when he died and that he went crazy for a time afterwards and they're right to be concerned. The only way they can restart what they see as the "real" SHIELD is if they get Nick Fury's toolbox, and that required subtlety rather than force. The real plot hole is how damned long it took for them to find it. Oh, I get the concern over Coulson. Even with viewer perspective the guy's an extreme enabler. But he hasn't done much to justify halving SHIELDs operational power, requiring covert infiltration from day 1, or armed hostile takeover as the first and only option. Only genuine complaint would be about how he handled the Whitehall and Alien City situation...except the second SHIELD twiddling their thumbs during it puts just as much blame on them. So yeah, I mean, not liking Coulson as leader, cool. Going from passive-and-silent to gun-to-the-head in an instant? Quite stupid. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On April 05 2015 08:30 Jaaaaasper wrote: Guys its a tv show based on a comic book. If the source material is riddled with such issues, I have a hard time thinking that we should complain about it in a tv show based on them. Well, the joy of adapting to another media is that you can remove the trash and try to polish what you have. Then again, it's Live Action TV, which isn't exactly a polished medium in the first place. But really, the only reason I'm complaining is because the second half of season 1 and first half of season 2 were actually quite good. And we went from two fairly subtle villains in Ward and Dr. Hyde, plus a decent shadowy leader in Whitehall, and now we've got a group of completely unsubtle supposed "good guys" being really stupid. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
Because she showed up to break up the fight @ Raina's sans scars, but showed up to reveal that yes, this is in fact Skye's mom WITH scars when she talked to Cal. The preview for the next episodes shows the one with scars training Skye. So either there was an editor fail or all of the "elders" look exactly like each other and are actually immortal. Also the whole: + Show Spoiler + Simmons & Fitz tricking the fake SHIELD guys Was happy to see + Show Spoiler + Deathlok | ||
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Finland4608 Posts
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United States1864 Posts
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Quateras
Germany867 Posts
On April 08 2015 21:30 Complete wrote: the fotzsimmons thing was predictable, but still awesome Guess I'm getting old :D Didn't think it was that predictable, i honestly thought she'd switch side simply to break up the team in line for the Future of that Captain America civil war story thingy.(based on the previous episodes and her stances about people with power etc.) | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On April 09 2015 02:42 Quateras wrote: Guess I'm getting old :D Didn't think it was that predictable, i honestly thought she'd switch side simply to break up the team in line for the Future of that Captain America civil war story thingy.(based on the previous episodes and her stances about people with power etc.) The big tip off was the line: "She wouldn't do that unless..." followed by gears turning. Was a secret sciencey signal that no one else would understand. Anyone else notice that all of Fitz's brain damage symptoms have disappeared over the last couple of episodes? | ||
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Finland4608 Posts
On April 09 2015 02:50 deth2munkies wrote: The big tip off was the line: "She wouldn't do that unless..." followed by gears turning. Was a secret sciencey signal that no one else would understand. Anyone else notice that all of Fitz's brain damage symptoms have disappeared over the last couple of episodes? Over the whole season, slowly he has been improving, but yeah, now he seems almost normal. | ||
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Quateras
Germany867 Posts
Nice to finally find out what happened to May. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On April 16 2015 18:19 Quateras wrote: Did you guys find it weird/odd/creepy as well that Skye's father used the exact same words to describe her birth as her mother did?Like word for word o.o. Nice to finally find out what happened to May. It wasn't word for word but it was very similar. And that is not strange, when my wife and me tell a story of the night our kid was born, it is also very similar because we were together when it happened. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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VelJa
France1109 Posts
It's strange a place that no one knows so structured... | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On April 21 2015 18:26 VelJa wrote: Am I the only one to think that the place where the Inhumas are trained are not on Earth? It's strange a place that no one knows so structured... China is huge, there is no reason not to use some rarely travelled region for this "school". | ||
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