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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 19 2013 02:50 GMT
#721
I didn't like the episode much either. After such a long hiatus, feels like nothing really happened in this episode, and Mike was just so unlikeable. It amazes me how ungrateful he can be towards Harvey, who fights to keep Mike's cover time and time again, and has a lot more to lose. If I were him I'd sure as hell either do my job or get out of there.
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Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
January 19 2013 04:32 GMT
#722
Next episode "fire"works? :D
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illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
January 19 2013 04:44 GMT
#723
On January 19 2013 11:50 Cel.erity wrote:
I didn't like the episode much either. After such a long hiatus, feels like nothing really happened in this episode, and Mike was just so unlikeable. It amazes me how ungrateful he can be towards Harvey, who fights to keep Mike's cover time and time again, and has a lot more to lose. If I were him I'd sure as hell either do my job or get out of there.


yeah, I'm starting to not like Mike's character. But I'm starting to like Louis more as the season moves along.
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Atokad
Profile Joined November 2010
United States204 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 05:15:42
January 19 2013 04:59 GMT
#724
I just got done watching the episode. I can understand why most won't like this episode. I think they were trying to show that he's bad at handling himself when he gets emotional, as he did in this episode. In trying, they failed. It was a terrible episode, even making Rachel look bad. It feels like this season (from the previews I've seen of coming episodes) that this will be a much darker season and I'm not really a fan of that whole direction. It's like they have a new showrunner or writers, not really sure what they are trying to accomplish in these next coming episodes, but hope it becomes a little more light-hearted later in the season and they get back to the jokes and good cases.

Oh fun fact about Zoe *IRL Spoiler* + Show Spoiler +
She is Jacinda Barrett, Gabriel Macht's IRL wife.
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 05:16:47
January 19 2013 05:15 GMT
#725
God I wish they'd slow down. You don't need to dump Mikes origin story, his confrontation with a demon from the past, his whole adulterous relationship and his return to drugs all in the same episode right after killing his grandma. It cheapens the emotional impact any of these storylines could have had if they had slowed the fuck down. You're supposed to tease emotion out of your characters not force fuck them in the face. Not a great episode... oh well I'm still gonna watch

On January 19 2013 11:50 Cel.erity wrote:
I didn't like the episode much either. After such a long hiatus, feels like nothing really happened in this episode, and Mike was just so unlikeable. It amazes me how ungrateful he can be towards Harvey, who fights to keep Mike's cover time and time again, and has a lot more to lose. If I were him I'd sure as hell either do my job or get out of there.


This is what I mean. Lots of things happened in this episode but no one cared about any of them because they came out of nowhere and we never had a reason to care in the first place.
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skyrunner
Profile Joined August 2009
371 Posts
January 19 2013 07:17 GMT
#726
On January 19 2013 14:15 n.DieJokes wrote:
God I wish they'd slow down. You don't need to dump Mikes origin story, his confrontation with a demon from the past, his whole adulterous relationship and his return to drugs all in the same episode right after killing his grandma. It cheapens the emotional impact any of these storylines could have had if they had slowed the fuck down. You're supposed to tease emotion out of your characters not force fuck them in the face. Not a great episode... oh well I'm still gonna watch

Episode was not bad, i think peoples expectation has run high because of the hiatus.

They've been setting up mikes grandmas death since season 1. She was his only family. If that didn't put him in some kind of negative emotional spiral then what would?

So it's completely logical what they're doing. I would think it was kind of weird if he went through the biggest trauma of his life and everything was just back to normal. I guess the thing is i didn't even remember his grandma had died before i watched the episode, so for me it felt a little bit out of place, maybe that's the problem?

Kinda bad though that there always has to be some threat that's gonna expose Mike. Why don't they just drop that for half a season at least, im getting tired of it.
RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
January 19 2013 07:26 GMT
#727
I think what people fail to realize is with the huge buzz around this show maybe they do need to recap a lot of what happened. Like they probably looked at the numbers and said "Holy shit, the amount of people incoming is gigantic, we can't just pick up where we left off", so I mean while the episode seemed I guess contrived is the emotion people are feeling I think it was for the new viewers.
We were all raised on televion that made us believe we'd all be Millionairs, Movie gods, and Rockstars..... But we won't.... We are slowly learning that fact. And we are very, very pissed off.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 19 2013 07:56 GMT
#728
On January 19 2013 16:17 skyrunner wrote:
Kinda bad though that there always has to be some threat that's gonna expose Mike. Why don't they just drop that for half a season at least, im getting tired of it.

I think we're stuck with it. Until Mike becomes a Junior Partner or something, he'll never be above the more common scrutiny. His boss knows and his boss' boss knows. What hurts the situation is that everybody else, for the most part, doesn't and have the ability to scrutinize him.
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 11:02:56
January 19 2013 11:01 GMT
#729
When it comes to mikes decisions i think a lot of people have forgot his past, because the show focuses on his short year or so in law, being professional ect, they forget about who mike really is. HE IS A BUM. he didn't achieve anything, the only reason he is there is because he is incredibly smart and lucky. The reason mike didn't become a lawyer in the first place is because hes a fuck up, that's the whole point of the show, if mike didn't fuck up his life so badly in the first place he would of got a law degree like everyone else. He makes bad decisions, that is his character, just because hes made good ones recently, and us as an audience have only seen that side of mike, shouldn't make you forget that the show clearly makes a point about mike not having his shit together, and being generally bad at life choices which is why he didn't get to Harvard in the first place.

Him being poor at decisions on life is completely congruent with his personalty that we have been told, people don't change that much.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 20 2013 04:47 GMT
#730
On January 19 2013 16:56 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 16:17 skyrunner wrote:
Kinda bad though that there always has to be some threat that's gonna expose Mike. Why don't they just drop that for half a season at least, im getting tired of it.

I think we're stuck with it. Until Mike becomes a Junior Partner or something, he'll never be above the more common scrutiny. His boss knows and his boss' boss knows. What hurts the situation is that everybody else, for the most part, doesn't and have the ability to scrutinize him.

How big of a deal is it really though? So they have one associate who isn't from Harvard, why is it so important? Are they legally bound to hire all their associates from Harvard or something? Some kind of agreement? It was probably previously mentioned, but I honestly don't quite remember.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 05:04:15
January 20 2013 05:03 GMT
#731
On January 20 2013 13:47 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 16:56 Gahlo wrote:
On January 19 2013 16:17 skyrunner wrote:
Kinda bad though that there always has to be some threat that's gonna expose Mike. Why don't they just drop that for half a season at least, im getting tired of it.

I think we're stuck with it. Until Mike becomes a Junior Partner or something, he'll never be above the more common scrutiny. His boss knows and his boss' boss knows. What hurts the situation is that everybody else, for the most part, doesn't and have the ability to scrutinize him.

How big of a deal is it really though? So they have one associate who isn't from Harvard, why is it so important? Are they legally bound to hire all their associates from Harvard or something? Some kind of agreement? It was probably previously mentioned, but I honestly don't quite remember.


I don't think they specifically mentioned it, but they do have some arrangement with Harvard for recruitment. Maybe it would turn off Harvard if they started to hire from other schools so they wouldn't get preferential treatment? Other then that its basically a prestige thing.
Never Knows Best.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 08:59:06
January 20 2013 08:55 GMT
#732
On January 20 2013 14:03 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 13:47 Grobyc wrote:
On January 19 2013 16:56 Gahlo wrote:
On January 19 2013 16:17 skyrunner wrote:
Kinda bad though that there always has to be some threat that's gonna expose Mike. Why don't they just drop that for half a season at least, im getting tired of it.

I think we're stuck with it. Until Mike becomes a Junior Partner or something, he'll never be above the more common scrutiny. His boss knows and his boss' boss knows. What hurts the situation is that everybody else, for the most part, doesn't and have the ability to scrutinize him.

How big of a deal is it really though? So they have one associate who isn't from Harvard, why is it so important? Are they legally bound to hire all their associates from Harvard or something? Some kind of agreement? It was probably previously mentioned, but I honestly don't quite remember.


I don't think they specifically mentioned it, but they do have some arrangement with Harvard for recruitment. Maybe it would turn off Harvard if they started to hire from other schools so they wouldn't get preferential treatment? Other then that its basically a prestige thing.


Uhm it´s because Mike doesn´t have a law degree and they/he states that he does. That´s fraud. He has passed the bar(for other people) but he has no degree from any college/university. So it'´s not just the Harvard thing even if that works into it.

People take those kinds of lies seriously, a few years ago there was a real world example of a guy working at a place for like twenty years being an invaluable employee making the company tons of money, but he lied about his degree - he didn´t have one and was fired and also prosecuted for fraud i think.
notmoose
Profile Joined October 2012
52 Posts
January 20 2013 09:15 GMT
#733
First episode of Season 3 already happened?
RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
January 20 2013 09:19 GMT
#734
On January 20 2013 18:15 notmoose wrote:
First episode of Season 3 already happened?


What do you mean? It's still in season 1!
We were all raised on televion that made us believe we'd all be Millionairs, Movie gods, and Rockstars..... But we won't.... We are slowly learning that fact. And we are very, very pissed off.
notmoose
Profile Joined October 2012
52 Posts
January 20 2013 09:21 GMT
#735
On January 20 2013 18:19 RodrigoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 18:15 notmoose wrote:
First episode of Season 3 already happened?


What do you mean? It's still in season 1!


No I've watched season 1 and 2 already but I can't find the first episode of season 3
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
January 20 2013 09:30 GMT
#736
On January 20 2013 17:55 unkkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 14:03 Slaughter wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:47 Grobyc wrote:
On January 19 2013 16:56 Gahlo wrote:
On January 19 2013 16:17 skyrunner wrote:
Kinda bad though that there always has to be some threat that's gonna expose Mike. Why don't they just drop that for half a season at least, im getting tired of it.

I think we're stuck with it. Until Mike becomes a Junior Partner or something, he'll never be above the more common scrutiny. His boss knows and his boss' boss knows. What hurts the situation is that everybody else, for the most part, doesn't and have the ability to scrutinize him.

How big of a deal is it really though? So they have one associate who isn't from Harvard, why is it so important? Are they legally bound to hire all their associates from Harvard or something? Some kind of agreement? It was probably previously mentioned, but I honestly don't quite remember.


I don't think they specifically mentioned it, but they do have some arrangement with Harvard for recruitment. Maybe it would turn off Harvard if they started to hire from other schools so they wouldn't get preferential treatment? Other then that its basically a prestige thing.


Uhm it´s because Mike doesn´t have a law degree and they/he states that he does. That´s fraud. He has passed the bar(for other people) but he has no degree from any college/university. So it'´s not just the Harvard thing even if that works into it.

People take those kinds of lies seriously, a few years ago there was a real world example of a guy working at a place for like twenty years being an invaluable employee making the company tons of money, but he lied about his degree - he didn´t have one and was fired and also prosecuted for fraud i think.


wasn't it the yahoo CEO or something?

On January 20 2013 18:19 RodrigoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 18:15 notmoose wrote:
First episode of Season 3 already happened?


What do you mean? It's still in season 1!


isn't it season 2?

Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Brainsurgeon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden359 Posts
January 20 2013 10:10 GMT
#737
Jesus christ. Was this show always this badly written? This episode was shit.
Say no to drugs. Say yes to hugs!
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
January 20 2013 10:27 GMT
#738
So my current take is:
Mike - started out quite awesome, but now is an all round dick
Harvey - pretty good guy, but a massive dick when it comes to Louis
Louis - massive scheming dick who does a lot of cunning things, but sometimes has a nice moment and just wants to be accepted (enter Harvey being a dick)

Jessica - doesn't get much screen time, but comes off as a general dick, though that may be as a result of her position
Rachael - generally nice and such, but has been forced into being in a permanent bad mood as a result of Mike's being a dick

Donna - similar to, but better than Rachael in terms of being good/likeability. Seems to sometimes say things that reach beyond what should be permissible for her and so she ever so slightly comes off as falsely thinking she's top shit. Still the most likeable character, though.

This show was awesome, and I hope they can pull it back. They just need to stop making Mike so fricken dark, he always seemed to be the outsider, the reprieve from the high stress environment these lawyers soared through, but now that he's a dick, the other characters have become more unbearable because they're basically all these dicks who are out for themselves 24/7. There's no longer an element that mixes up their strict ways of doing things.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
January 20 2013 11:09 GMT
#739
Just watched the Pilot. Holy crap I can so see myself getting addicted to this show. Looks really good, ahaha.
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OceanLab
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 13:05:26
January 20 2013 12:57 GMT
#740
I feel like, because we've been waiting for so long for this episode, we expected another "Mike and Harvey" are awesome episode, and that's why we are all disappointed. I mean, Mike is freaking annoying in this episode,and that kinda put me off, but at the same time i remember feeling that way about Vince in Entourage a few times, and overall it just made the show better.

However, the writing is what put me off the most, Mike keeps on repeating itself, does exactly what we expect him to do every single time (and by that I mean the most annoying thing possible), and comes off as a prick. Harvey on the other side is straight up awesome in this episode (but then again he always is!). I also feel like they try to do too many things at the same time. Like one of you guys mentioned earlier, this mix of romance, memory from his childhood and new danger regarding his secret felt overwhelming. They could have expanded those over 2 episodes at least. I mean come on, it took such a short time for Jessica to solve it, it was so boring! (and I'm sure we'll hear from that girl again, but still, it didn't feel right...)

Overall a mediocre episode, but that could set up for a great second part of the season if played right.
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