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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
Click Here for the spoiler-free thread.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 08 2014 22:49 GMT
#11321
Hmm.. here's part 2
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
August 08 2014 23:55 GMT
#11322
That's some serious tinfoil-hat material right there.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
August 09 2014 16:03 GMT
#11323
this guy is coming up with really creative stuff... a bit too creative i think but it does raise some good points such as the lemon tree in braavos
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
August 09 2014 20:34 GMT
#11324
yeah, in these 2 videos the level of bullshit and tinfoil crap is over the top
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unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
August 11 2014 20:34 GMT
#11325
Guy playing Ser Denys Mallister is dead, J.J Murphy. RIP.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 19:02:23
August 12 2014 19:01 GMT
#11326
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/08/12/george-r-r-martin-fans-guessed-ending/

“I’ve wrestled with [the issue of fan speculation online], because I do want to surprise my readers,” he was quoted as saying by The Telegraph. “I hate predictable fiction as a reader, I don’t want to write predictable fiction. I want to surprise and delight my reader and take them in directions they didn’t see coming … At least one or two readers had put together the extremely subtle and obscure clues that I’d planted in the books and came to the right solution. So what do I do then? Do I change it? I wrestled with that issue and I came to the conclusion that changing it would be a disaster, because the clues were there. You can’t do that, so I’m just going to go ahead. Some of my readers who don’t read the boards, which thankfully there are hundreds of thousands of them, will still be surprised and other readers will say: ‘see, I said that four years ago, I’m smarter than you guys.'”
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
August 12 2014 19:02 GMT
#11327
And that's why I really, really shouldn't read every fan theory out there. I want to be surprised, dammit.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 19:12:46
August 12 2014 19:11 GMT
#11328
Damm, I'm glad I don't read fan theories except one. Curiosity got the best of me and I watched that Jon's mom YouTube vid theory. Won't be reading anymore though because I want to be surprised too in 15 years.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
August 12 2014 19:12 GMT
#11329
At least now he's confirmed how the books end so when he dies before finishing them it won't matter!
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 12 2014 19:27 GMT
#11330
Well that would mean the fake Targaryan theory is correct one. That one is the only really obscure one that also is plausible and not really tin foil hat one. Of course I consider theories about Jon being correct, I don't even consider clues for that obscure.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
August 12 2014 19:47 GMT
#11331
I doubt it's possible to guess what GRRM might have referred to in that quote. There's a gazillion theories out there, and a lot of them seem plausible and not at all tin-foil-hat material. And the fake Targaryen certainly isn't a theory that has "one or two" fans who came up with it, but countless people.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
August 12 2014 20:04 GMT
#11332
On July 31 2014 23:45 Noro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 18:04 Serek wrote:
I think people conflate number of pages in the books with actual impact in the story. Of all the Greyjoys only three have any real impact on the overall story (Balon, Theon and possibly Victarion). When you look at it honestly so far all the others are just filler. Same goes with half of Dorne and, frankly, LSH. MAYBE if x or y happen in the next books their true impact will be much greater, but as it stands now that's not the case.

I can understand having so many characters from GRRM's narrative perspective, trying to emulate history and whatnot (since History is built up by mostly small actions by lots of different people). However this approach does not translate well to media outside written media. The TV series has to juggle a budget, people's short attention spans and it's own creative vision of the story when writing the scripts. Of course the result is going to be different from the books.

In any case all this bitching about an unfinished cast for an unfinished series based on unfinished books seems a bit over the top at the moment. Just wait and see.


All those "filler" pages you are referring to are about to play MAJOR roles in the upcomming books. Unlike all the other characters, they didn't have since book 1 to establish their narrative.

If you look at The Winds of Winter current roster for confirmed view point characters, Victarion/Euron/Theon/Arianne are all in there, and if you look at where their storys end in Dance, how could you say that that's all pointless filler?


This just in: Show spoils that the entire Greyjoy/Dorne arcs are useless and all of them are going to die next book.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 22:23:08
August 12 2014 22:14 GMT
#11333
On August 13 2014 04:01 Yhamm wrote:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/08/12/george-r-r-martin-fans-guessed-ending/

Show nested quote +
“I’ve wrestled with [the issue of fan speculation online], because I do want to surprise my readers,” he was quoted as saying by The Telegraph. “I hate predictable fiction as a reader, I don’t want to write predictable fiction. I want to surprise and delight my reader and take them in directions they didn’t see coming … At least one or two readers had put together the extremely subtle and obscure clues that I’d planted in the books and came to the right solution. So what do I do then? Do I change it? I wrestled with that issue and I came to the conclusion that changing it would be a disaster, because the clues were there. You can’t do that, so I’m just going to go ahead. Some of my readers who don’t read the boards, which thankfully there are hundreds of thousands of them, will still be surprised and other readers will say: ‘see, I said that four years ago, I’m smarter than you guys.'”


At this point, out of the hundreds of theories and ideas and predictions, SOMEONE got some parts right. It was unavoidable

But who gives a flying fuck? It will still be amazing no matter what. i For one can't wait to see how the story will evolve

.... then again, i guess i... *sigh* have to wait -,-
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 12 2014 22:22 GMT
#11334
lmao those comments. So many stupid morons
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
August 12 2014 23:43 GMT
#11335
that's a pretty old quote as well, seen that before in here, at least im pretty sure i did...
jxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil307 Posts
August 15 2014 16:43 GMT
#11336
I've read pretty much all of the fan theories - I think that's part of the experience - and I don't really care about being spoiled, I really just want to enjoy the story with all its intricacies which is what got me into the books.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 15 2014 18:40 GMT
#11337
yeah i dont consider reading the fan theories as being spoiled cause i figure most of them are wrong. and if one is right then when it comes up in the book i can think about all the events leading up to it that suggested it and appreciate it more instead of just taking it at face value.
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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
August 15 2014 19:45 GMT
#11338
Shouldn't this thread be named ASoIaF instead of GoT?
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 15 2014 19:48 GMT
#11339
This title makes it clear to non book readers to avoid this thread. Calling it AsoIaF might confuse some and then they see spoilertalk!!!
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 19 2014 09:28 GMT
#11340
The last part

"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
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