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On August 18 2012 07:30 Dark_Chill wrote: So wait, releasing that magic jar or something made them this strong? I mean, it was pretty obvious that neither Natsu and especially Gajeel weren't trying at all yet, but this seems a little ridiculous. Dragon Force Natsu couldn't beat Jellal, and he's way stronger than any of the dragon slayers here (natsu included). if Jellal is level 10, and Natsu was level 7 when they fought and dragon force adds 2 levels hes still a level below Jellal
if Sting is lvl 4 even with 2 levels with dragon force hes still a level behind Natsu
it doesnt matter that Sting and Rogue are powering up because Natsu and Gajeel are jsut far more powerful then them
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this chapter was adorable
def not worth waiting a week for
but fairy tail always seems to be one of those manga where it's shitty to read week by week but pretty good reading all at once
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On August 18 2012 07:37 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 07:30 Dark_Chill wrote: So wait, releasing that magic jar or something made them this strong? I mean, it was pretty obvious that neither Natsu and especially Gajeel weren't trying at all yet, but this seems a little ridiculous. Dragon Force Natsu couldn't beat Jellal, and he's way stronger than any of the dragon slayers here (natsu included). if Jellal is level 10, and Natsu was level 7 when they fought and dragon force adds 2 levels hes still a level below Jellal if Sting is lvl 4 even with 2 levels with dragon force hes still a level behind Natsu it doesnt matter that Sting and Rogue are powering up because Natsu and Gajeel are jsut far more powerful then them
Sting and Rogue are (probably) the most powerfull mages of the most powerfull guild. They have been hyped up for the entire arc. How can they be "3 lvls" below Natsu he isnt even S-class? It doesnt make sence and its just boring to see Sting and Rogue being trolled so much.
This is even worse then when Bacchus got owned by that parfum guy.
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On August 18 2012 08:30 Kaien wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 07:37 Forikorder wrote:On August 18 2012 07:30 Dark_Chill wrote: So wait, releasing that magic jar or something made them this strong? I mean, it was pretty obvious that neither Natsu and especially Gajeel weren't trying at all yet, but this seems a little ridiculous. Dragon Force Natsu couldn't beat Jellal, and he's way stronger than any of the dragon slayers here (natsu included). if Jellal is level 10, and Natsu was level 7 when they fought and dragon force adds 2 levels hes still a level below Jellal if Sting is lvl 4 even with 2 levels with dragon force hes still a level behind Natsu it doesnt matter that Sting and Rogue are powering up because Natsu and Gajeel are jsut far more powerful then them Sting and Rogue are (probably) the most powerfull mages of the most powerfull guild. They have been hyped up for the entire arc. How can they be "3 lvls" below Natsu he isnt even S-class? It doesnt make sence and its just boring to see Sting and Rogue being trolled so much. This is even worse then when Bacchus got owned by that parfum guy. exactly, aside from the fairy tail mages..... everyone is piss weak get taht through your head, Sabertooth was jsut the least shittiest of the shitty guilds and got to be a gold coloured turd
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On August 18 2012 00:46 semantics wrote: this like dbz i'm stronger j/k i'm stonger no wait i'm stonger oh okay now i'm stonger derp mode LOLOLOL Funniest post I've read today lol
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On August 18 2012 08:30 Kaien wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 07:37 Forikorder wrote:On August 18 2012 07:30 Dark_Chill wrote: So wait, releasing that magic jar or something made them this strong? I mean, it was pretty obvious that neither Natsu and especially Gajeel weren't trying at all yet, but this seems a little ridiculous. Dragon Force Natsu couldn't beat Jellal, and he's way stronger than any of the dragon slayers here (natsu included). if Jellal is level 10, and Natsu was level 7 when they fought and dragon force adds 2 levels hes still a level below Jellal if Sting is lvl 4 even with 2 levels with dragon force hes still a level behind Natsu it doesnt matter that Sting and Rogue are powering up because Natsu and Gajeel are jsut far more powerful then them Sting and Rogue are (probably) the most powerfull mages of the most powerfull guild. They have been hyped up for the entire arc. How can they be "3 lvls" below Natsu he isnt even S-class? It doesnt make sence and its just boring to see Sting and Rogue being trolled so much. This is even worse then when Bacchus got owned by that parfum guy.
Probably one those dragon lores, where older dragons = stronger, but yeah DBZ going on everywhere
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On August 18 2012 07:43 Milkis wrote: this chapter was adorable
def not worth waiting a week for
but fairy tail always seems to be one of those manga where it's shitty to read week by week but pretty good reading all at once
Ya i agreed with this.
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On August 18 2012 14:54 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 07:43 Milkis wrote: this chapter was adorable
def not worth waiting a week for
but fairy tail always seems to be one of those manga where it's shitty to read week by week but pretty good reading all at once Ya i agreed with this. Actually probably true for me as well hm.
At first I read it weekly but then I got bored of it and quit. Later came back and got caught up, thought it wasn't bad, but it got annoying pretty quickly now.
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The "I know all your habits" was ridiculous. I felt sharinganned "I got a new powerful secret jutsu that can bind / change / rewing / fuck up space".
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On August 18 2012 00:46 semantics wrote: this like dbz i'm stronger j/k i'm stonger no wait i'm stonger oh okay now i'm stonger derp mode
the only time dbz manga ever did this was during frieza arc, and frieza never really tried to do that (he just went like "oh i'm only using 20% of my power"). dbz never really pulled off power ups out of their ass if you actually... watched it (there was always some sort of reason behind them, no one hid it over and over to this ridiculous level -_-) like they didn't stretch the power ups like this at all and the power ups (kaioken/ssj) was much better pulled off.
this is just rubbish really. please dont compare to dbz manga :D
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On August 18 2012 08:35 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 08:30 Kaien wrote:On August 18 2012 07:37 Forikorder wrote:On August 18 2012 07:30 Dark_Chill wrote: So wait, releasing that magic jar or something made them this strong? I mean, it was pretty obvious that neither Natsu and especially Gajeel weren't trying at all yet, but this seems a little ridiculous. Dragon Force Natsu couldn't beat Jellal, and he's way stronger than any of the dragon slayers here (natsu included). if Jellal is level 10, and Natsu was level 7 when they fought and dragon force adds 2 levels hes still a level below Jellal if Sting is lvl 4 even with 2 levels with dragon force hes still a level behind Natsu it doesnt matter that Sting and Rogue are powering up because Natsu and Gajeel are jsut far more powerful then them Sting and Rogue are (probably) the most powerfull mages of the most powerfull guild. They have been hyped up for the entire arc. How can they be "3 lvls" below Natsu he isnt even S-class? It doesnt make sence and its just boring to see Sting and Rogue being trolled so much. This is even worse then when Bacchus got owned by that parfum guy. exactly, aside from the fairy tail mages..... everyone is piss weak get taht through your head, Sabertooth was jsut the least shittiest of the shitty guilds and got to be a gold coloured turd
Actually, just remembered. Sabertooth was not the strongest guild in Fiore. The other guilds weren't sending out their best. Lamia Scale nor Pegasus never sent out their strong members and still managed to get right behind Sabertooth. I don't think Bachus competed for Cerberus either until he saw his team losing badly and Erza. Then there's also the fact that Kagura never tries at these competitions, and I don't think Sabertooth has anyone close to the same level as her.
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On August 19 2012 02:30 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 08:35 Forikorder wrote:On August 18 2012 08:30 Kaien wrote:On August 18 2012 07:37 Forikorder wrote:On August 18 2012 07:30 Dark_Chill wrote: So wait, releasing that magic jar or something made them this strong? I mean, it was pretty obvious that neither Natsu and especially Gajeel weren't trying at all yet, but this seems a little ridiculous. Dragon Force Natsu couldn't beat Jellal, and he's way stronger than any of the dragon slayers here (natsu included). if Jellal is level 10, and Natsu was level 7 when they fought and dragon force adds 2 levels hes still a level below Jellal if Sting is lvl 4 even with 2 levels with dragon force hes still a level behind Natsu it doesnt matter that Sting and Rogue are powering up because Natsu and Gajeel are jsut far more powerful then them Sting and Rogue are (probably) the most powerfull mages of the most powerfull guild. They have been hyped up for the entire arc. How can they be "3 lvls" below Natsu he isnt even S-class? It doesnt make sence and its just boring to see Sting and Rogue being trolled so much. This is even worse then when Bacchus got owned by that parfum guy. exactly, aside from the fairy tail mages..... everyone is piss weak get taht through your head, Sabertooth was jsut the least shittiest of the shitty guilds and got to be a gold coloured turd Actually, just remembered. Sabertooth was not the strongest guild in Fiore. The other guilds weren't sending out their best. Lamia Scale nor Pegasus never sent out their strong members and still managed to get right behind Sabertooth. I don't think Bachus competed for Cerberus either until he saw his team losing badly and Erza. Then there's also the fact that Kagura never tries at these competitions, and I don't think Sabertooth has anyone close to the same level as her. Kagura doesnt try cause if she pulls out her sword she dies
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On August 19 2012 02:30 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 08:35 Forikorder wrote:On August 18 2012 08:30 Kaien wrote:On August 18 2012 07:37 Forikorder wrote:On August 18 2012 07:30 Dark_Chill wrote: So wait, releasing that magic jar or something made them this strong? I mean, it was pretty obvious that neither Natsu and especially Gajeel weren't trying at all yet, but this seems a little ridiculous. Dragon Force Natsu couldn't beat Jellal, and he's way stronger than any of the dragon slayers here (natsu included). if Jellal is level 10, and Natsu was level 7 when they fought and dragon force adds 2 levels hes still a level below Jellal if Sting is lvl 4 even with 2 levels with dragon force hes still a level behind Natsu it doesnt matter that Sting and Rogue are powering up because Natsu and Gajeel are jsut far more powerful then them Sting and Rogue are (probably) the most powerfull mages of the most powerfull guild. They have been hyped up for the entire arc. How can they be "3 lvls" below Natsu he isnt even S-class? It doesnt make sence and its just boring to see Sting and Rogue being trolled so much. This is even worse then when Bacchus got owned by that parfum guy. exactly, aside from the fairy tail mages..... everyone is piss weak get taht through your head, Sabertooth was jsut the least shittiest of the shitty guilds and got to be a gold coloured turd Actually, just remembered. Sabertooth was not the strongest guild in Fiore. The other guilds weren't sending out their best. Lamia Scale nor Pegasus never sent out their strong members and still managed to get right behind Sabertooth. I don't think Bachus competed for Cerberus either until he saw his team losing badly and Erza. Then there's also the fact that Kagura never tries at these competitions, and I don't think Sabertooth has anyone close to the same level as her.
Minerva would probably be a good match for her, but then again mashima likes to troll evry character that is not a Fairytail member
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On August 18 2012 08:30 Kaien wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 07:37 Forikorder wrote:On August 18 2012 07:30 Dark_Chill wrote: So wait, releasing that magic jar or something made them this strong? I mean, it was pretty obvious that neither Natsu and especially Gajeel weren't trying at all yet, but this seems a little ridiculous. Dragon Force Natsu couldn't beat Jellal, and he's way stronger than any of the dragon slayers here (natsu included). if Jellal is level 10, and Natsu was level 7 when they fought and dragon force adds 2 levels hes still a level below Jellal if Sting is lvl 4 even with 2 levels with dragon force hes still a level behind Natsu it doesnt matter that Sting and Rogue are powering up because Natsu and Gajeel are jsut far more powerful then them Sting and Rogue are (probably) the most powerfull mages of the most powerfull guild. They have been hyped up for the entire arc. How can they be "3 lvls" below Natsu he isnt even S-class? It doesnt make sence and its just boring to see Sting and Rogue being trolled so much. This is even worse then when Bacchus got owned by that parfum guy.
Ah yes, Ichiya's victory over Bacchus. That was definitely very interesting.
It's pointless to overthink, but I'll probably do it anyways.
Bacchus and Elfman had a hell of a fight, and considering that as of now, Elfman is still lying in a hospital bed injured, it is possible that Bacchus has not completely recovered his full strength either during the fight against Blue Pegasus.
Furthermore, people underestimate Ichiya, for obvious reasons. For all his silliness, he is a very powerful mage, and Erza did say earlier in the arc that Ichiya was Blue Pegasus' strongest (or one of the strongest) mages, prompting Natsu to declare that he wanted to fight Ichiya.
Back on topic though: Natsu's power is super variable and if I were to make a SC2 reference, he's kind of like a 2012 MVP. One moment he's good but not great, but sometimes he just pulls out miraculous performances out of nowhere and wins a GSL (or beats Jellal, Zero, etc).
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On August 20 2012 10:13 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 08:30 Kaien wrote:On August 18 2012 07:37 Forikorder wrote:On August 18 2012 07:30 Dark_Chill wrote: So wait, releasing that magic jar or something made them this strong? I mean, it was pretty obvious that neither Natsu and especially Gajeel weren't trying at all yet, but this seems a little ridiculous. Dragon Force Natsu couldn't beat Jellal, and he's way stronger than any of the dragon slayers here (natsu included). if Jellal is level 10, and Natsu was level 7 when they fought and dragon force adds 2 levels hes still a level below Jellal if Sting is lvl 4 even with 2 levels with dragon force hes still a level behind Natsu it doesnt matter that Sting and Rogue are powering up because Natsu and Gajeel are jsut far more powerful then them Sting and Rogue are (probably) the most powerfull mages of the most powerfull guild. They have been hyped up for the entire arc. How can they be "3 lvls" below Natsu he isnt even S-class? It doesnt make sence and its just boring to see Sting and Rogue being trolled so much. This is even worse then when Bacchus got owned by that parfum guy. Ah yes, Ichiya's victory over Bacchus. That was definitely very interesting. It's pointless to overthink, but I'll probably do it anyways. Bacchus and Elfman had a hell of a fight, and considering that as of now, Elfman is still lying in a hospital bed injured, it is possible that Bacchus has not completely recovered his full strength either during the fight against Blue Pegasus. Furthermore, people underestimate Ichiya, for obvious reasons. For all his silliness, he is a very powerful mage, and Erza did say earlier in the arc that Ichiya was Blue Pegasus' strongest (or one of the strongest) mages, prompting Natsu to declare that he wanted to fight Ichiya. Back on topic though: Natsu's power is super variable and if I were to make a SC2 reference, he's kind of like a 2012 MVP. One moment he's good but not great, but sometimes he just pulls out miraculous performances out of nowhere and wins a GSL (or beats Jellal, Zero, etc). Natsu is always far above good its just that the people he fights are far above great
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Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T
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On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote: Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T Laxus took down both Natsu and Gajeel at the same time, Erza took down Lizanna and the water chick, Gildartz pretty mcuh beat Natsu without having to take a single step
thats S class quality
(oh and Laxus got a flawless victory agaisnt Raven Tail, if Natsu cant even manage to beat 2 wimps like these hes lagging pretty far behind)
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On August 20 2012 11:11 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote: Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T Laxus took down both Natsu and Gajeel at the same time, Erza took down Lizanna and the water chick, Gildartz pretty mcuh beat Natsu without having to take a single step thats S class quality (oh and Laxus got a flawless victory agaisnt Raven Tail, if Natsu cant even manage to beat 2 wimps like these hes lagging pretty far behind)
Pretty sure that was before they went to do that special training and got epix power up. Not to mention even before the the current arc, back when Natsu vs Hades - Hades literally got a flawless victory against FT's Master, and then suddenly Natsu beats Hades.
Doesn't that make Natsu stronger than a wizard saint with Laxus power up?
I dun geddit.
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On August 20 2012 11:14 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 11:11 Forikorder wrote:On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote: Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T Laxus took down both Natsu and Gajeel at the same time, Erza took down Lizanna and the water chick, Gildartz pretty mcuh beat Natsu without having to take a single step thats S class quality (oh and Laxus got a flawless victory agaisnt Raven Tail, if Natsu cant even manage to beat 2 wimps like these hes lagging pretty far behind) Pretty sure that was before they went to do that special training and got epix power up. Not to mention even before the the current arc, back when Natsu vs Hades - Hades literally got a flawless victory against FT's Master, and then suddenly Natsu beats Hades. Doesn't that make Natsu stronger than a wizard saint with Laxus power up? I dun geddit. did you like not actually read the chapter?
Natsu didnt KO Hades, Hades had all his power kept in a secret machine thing and it got destroyed so he lsot all his power
also Erza fought on equal level with Phantoms guild leader who was one of the 10 wizard saints, Laxus is stronger then Erza and Gildarts is stronger then him
S-class is on par with the Wizard saints
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On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote: Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T
I think that is one of the main (albeit cheesy) themes of the manga though: Power is derived from friendship, companionship, love, etc etc. while distinctions like S-ranks are relatively less important.
I think perhaps Azuma put it best when talking about Fairy Tail and Natsu in particular: On paper, they might not be that strong, but they draw strength from the bonds they have with one another. Faith into swords, if you will.
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