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On August 04 2012 16:45 SkelA wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 11:04 Forikorder wrote:On August 04 2012 10:26 hooahah wrote: I don't get what the point of hyping up Natsu vs Sting so much, only for it to be a one sided rape sting jsut got serious Yea he just had to use the best of his best. Now its the bestest of the best of his best for him lolol .
and that's after "best of the best" was stopped by Natsu's fist point on...
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Was kinda' disappointed by the massive power-up Natsu/Gajeel got.
Meh, we'll see how it goes next week.
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On August 04 2012 17:13 Sickkiee wrote: Was kinda' disappointed by the massive power-up Natsu/Gajeel got.
Meh, we'll see how it goes next week. whos to say they got a power up?
maybe everyone is jsut piss weak and never noticed because they didnt have Fairy tail to measure against, Fairy Tail was the undisputed strongest guild 7 years ago when they disapeared its like if there was a class in a school were everyone was 7 feet tall, and the next tallest class was 5 feet tall and when the 7 feet tall people all leave the 5 feet tall people brag about how tall they are
i mean the strongest guy in quatro cerberus whos supposed to be Erza level got owned by fucking elfman obviously the rest of the guilds are that weak compared to Fairy Tail
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My favorite part is when they were getting their ass handed to them and they were all like "Let me talk about some random shit while I'm attacking you" and got wrecked. Like, you don't really have to be like "Darkness hides in the shadows to hunt their prey" or some shit when you're losing...
I like how the fight is just "wait! I have another secret power I need to show off before you beat me up!"
I guess Mashima knew we expected Fairy Tale to win (because apparently ties are off limits... unless you are clearly outclassed and the person has a magic that counters you then it's a tie), so he just did it in the most dominating fashion he could so he pull up an old super power for the new Dragonslayers which will probably end with then getting a loss at the end because Natsu and Gajeel did XYZ to defeat them.
Can Gajeel eat the stadium? That's a question I want answered, cause then the whole thing is fucked for the new Dragonslayers (have no idea what their names are completely blanking on that right now).
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My favorite part is when they were getting their ass handed to them and they were all like "Let me talk about some random shit while I'm attacking you" and got wrecked. Like, you don't really have to be like "Darkness hides in the shadows to hunt their prey" or some shit when you're losing...
tahts cause these guys have so much pride, if you drank there sweat you could start controlling your shadow
really want to why they think they killed a dragon there probably jsut BSing to get a good rep
I guess Mashima knew we expected Fairy Tale to win (because apparently ties are off limits... unless you are clearly outclassed and the person has a magic that counters you then it's a tie), so he just did it in the most dominating fashion he could so he pull up an old super power for the new Dragonslayers which will probably end with then getting a loss at the end because Natsu and Gajeel did XYZ to defeat them.
good Fairy Tale should win there the main characters of course they win thats the job of the main character
before anyone saids that its cliche or bad story telling if the main character always win look at bleach, Ichigo got his ass kicked all Arrancar arc and people kept saying how shitty that arc was yet One Piece where luffy never loses is still going strong
Can Gajeel eat the stadium? That's a question I want answered, cause then the whole thing is fucked for the new Dragonslayers (have no idea what their names are completely blanking on that right now).
i think its made of stone doesnt really look like metal to me
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On August 05 2012 07:46 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +My favorite part is when they were getting their ass handed to them and they were all like "Let me talk about some random shit while I'm attacking you" and got wrecked. Like, you don't really have to be like "Darkness hides in the shadows to hunt their prey" or some shit when you're losing... tahts cause these guys have so much pride, if you drank there sweat you could start controlling your shadow really want to why they think they killed a dragon there probably jsut BSing to get a good rep Show nested quote +I guess Mashima knew we expected Fairy Tale to win (because apparently ties are off limits... unless you are clearly outclassed and the person has a magic that counters you then it's a tie), so he just did it in the most dominating fashion he could so he pull up an old super power for the new Dragonslayers which will probably end with then getting a loss at the end because Natsu and Gajeel did XYZ to defeat them. good Fairy Tale should win there the main characters of course they win thats the job of the main character before anyone saids that its cliche or bad story telling if the main character always win look at bleach, Ichigo got his ass kicked all Arrancar arc and people kept saying how shitty that arc was yet One Piece where luffy never loses is still going strong
Show nested quote +Can Gajeel eat the stadium? That's a question I want answered, cause then the whole thing is fucked for the new Dragonslayers (have no idea what their names are completely blanking on that right now). i think its made of stone doesnt really look like metal to me
LOL You know why people say Bleach has bad story telling? Ichigo getting his ass whooped by Ulqiourra and then he get this massive hollow power-up suddenly and just owned Ulqiourra in seconds.wtf???? Even worse after he got back to Karakura Town and get his ass owned by Aizen(who owned SS Captain like they are fodders) so easily, Ichigo went into the hyperbolic time chamber and get a wtf hax power and owned Aizen like he is nothing.His massive power-up wasn't even properly explained only about how he lose his power if he uses the Final Getsuga Tenshou.lol Now he got those powers back solely dedicated from one shitty arc called the FB arc=.=
Luffy NEVER LOSES?????Did i just hear this? Oh man. When Luffy and his crew got into the Grand Line,their first super major antagonist in Arabasta arc which is Crocodile.Luffy got OWNED TWICE in a row(getting stabbed to death and getting sucked dry) by Crocodile only after he utilizes both blood and water by soaking them did he beat Crocodile. Not to mention he got beaten by Rob Lucci and Aokiji and finally he decides to get stronger since he knows he is too weak and proceed to learn Gear 2 and 3.Even then, he still barely managed to beat Rob.After that, he and his crew got owned by Kizaru and that bear guy. Best example would be the Impel Down arc and Marineford arc, he got owned by Magalan,Smoker and many others etc. Luffy don't get stupid massive power-ups like Ichigo and Sasuke.
One Piece is way further than Naruto,Bleach and Fairy Tails in terms of chapter. And Luffy is nowhere near the title of being called one of the strongest character unlike Naruto and Bleach where (Ichigo and Naruto currently are considered one of the top top top strongest character now).
I give FT a chance since they are still fresh compared to those 2(Naruto and Bleach). But Natsu always getting plot power-ups so yeah....
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On August 05 2012 07:46 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +My favorite part is when they were getting their ass handed to them and they were all like "Let me talk about some random shit while I'm attacking you" and got wrecked. Like, you don't really have to be like "Darkness hides in the shadows to hunt their prey" or some shit when you're losing... tahts cause these guys have so much pride, if you drank there sweat you could start controlling your shadow really want to why they think they killed a dragon there probably jsut BSing to get a good rep Show nested quote +I guess Mashima knew we expected Fairy Tale to win (because apparently ties are off limits... unless you are clearly outclassed and the person has a magic that counters you then it's a tie), so he just did it in the most dominating fashion he could so he pull up an old super power for the new Dragonslayers which will probably end with then getting a loss at the end because Natsu and Gajeel did XYZ to defeat them. good Fairy Tale should win there the main characters of course they win thats the job of the main character before anyone saids that its cliche or bad story telling if the main character always win look at bleach, Ichigo got his ass kicked all Arrancar arc and people kept saying how shitty that arc was yet One Piece where luffy never loses is still going strong Show nested quote +Can Gajeel eat the stadium? That's a question I want answered, cause then the whole thing is fucked for the new Dragonslayers (have no idea what their names are completely blanking on that right now). i think its made of stone doesnt really look like metal to me
Luffy has lost more than once: + Show Spoiler +against the Ice guy and against Kuma
And yes the stadium is made of stone of course xd
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i dont think people quite got what i meant when i said Luffy doesnt lose but w/e
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On August 05 2012 08:53 Forikorder wrote: i dont think people quite got what i meant when i said Luffy doesnt lose but w/e
If you mean in the end the main character always wins, that's still not true (SH vs Kuma, SH vs Kizaru, SH vs Aokiji, Luffy vs Magellan) but that's a basic characteristic of these types of manga. You can't Aizen just kill everyone like he should and take over soul society. Even though it would logically make sense, it still wouldn't be good because it's going completely against what kind of manga it is. It's about how it happens that's the point.
Fairy Tail is actually probably worse than both Bleach and Naruto at this. In Naruto, he pulls on more strength from the kyubi to make last second comebacks. In Bleach (it's still pretty bad) he gains powers from his sword and mask. In Fairy Tail, they gain power from friendship a lot of the times. I didn't mind when Natsu got Dragon Force, but when Azuma beat Erza but she got help from whatever mushrooms she was eating to make her think her friend's ghosts were behind her, I was pretty pissed.
One Piece actually handles this a lot better. Luffy rarely ever uses an inexplicable power-up. Vs Crocodile, he did not get stronger, he managed to exploit his weakness using his blood. The only fight I'd say which didn't make much sense was vs Lucci, where Luffy was pretty much dead. Usopp's words get through to him though, and he uses jet gattling. That's the only fight I can think of where it made me think the writing was kind of lazy.
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oh look another "my-favorite-anime is-better-then-your-favorite-anime-debate".
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Do we forget that this is just another shounen manga...powerups are to be expected.
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On August 05 2012 10:28 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 08:53 Forikorder wrote: i dont think people quite got what i meant when i said Luffy doesnt lose but w/e If you mean in the end the main character always wins, that's still not true (SH vs Kuma, SH vs Kizaru, SH vs Aokiji, Luffy vs Magellan) but that's a basic characteristic of these types of manga. You can't Aizen just kill everyone like he should and take over soul society. Even though it would logically make sense, it still wouldn't be good because it's going completely against what kind of manga it is. It's about how it happens that's the point. Fairy Tail is actually probably worse than both Bleach and Naruto at this. In Naruto, he pulls on more strength from the kyubi to make last second comebacks. In Bleach (it's still pretty bad) he gains powers from his sword and mask. In Fairy Tail, they gain power from friendship a lot of the times. I didn't mind when Natsu got Dragon Force, but when Azuma beat Erza but she got help from whatever mushrooms she was eating to make her think her friend's ghosts were behind her, I was pretty pissed. One Piece actually handles this a lot better. Luffy rarely ever uses an inexplicable power-up. Vs Crocodile, he did not get stronger, he managed to exploit his weakness using his blood. The only fight I'd say which didn't make much sense was vs Lucci, where Luffy was pretty much dead. Usopp's words get through to him though, and he uses jet gattling. That's the only fight I can think of where it made me think the writing was kind of lazy. no you dont really get what i mean at all but w/e
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On August 05 2012 10:52 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 10:28 Dark_Chill wrote:On August 05 2012 08:53 Forikorder wrote: i dont think people quite got what i meant when i said Luffy doesnt lose but w/e If you mean in the end the main character always wins, that's still not true (SH vs Kuma, SH vs Kizaru, SH vs Aokiji, Luffy vs Magellan) but that's a basic characteristic of these types of manga. You can't Aizen just kill everyone like he should and take over soul society. Even though it would logically make sense, it still wouldn't be good because it's going completely against what kind of manga it is. It's about how it happens that's the point. Fairy Tail is actually probably worse than both Bleach and Naruto at this. In Naruto, he pulls on more strength from the kyubi to make last second comebacks. In Bleach (it's still pretty bad) he gains powers from his sword and mask. In Fairy Tail, they gain power from friendship a lot of the times. I didn't mind when Natsu got Dragon Force, but when Azuma beat Erza but she got help from whatever mushrooms she was eating to make her think her friend's ghosts were behind her, I was pretty pissed. One Piece actually handles this a lot better. Luffy rarely ever uses an inexplicable power-up. Vs Crocodile, he did not get stronger, he managed to exploit his weakness using his blood. The only fight I'd say which didn't make much sense was vs Lucci, where Luffy was pretty much dead. Usopp's words get through to him though, and he uses jet gattling. That's the only fight I can think of where it made me think the writing was kind of lazy. no you dont really get what i mean at all but w/e
So what did you mean then?
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Clearly, Forikorder doesn't understand how shounen works.
That's exactly why Bleach/Naruto are finally running down, there's a fuckton of deus ex machinas. One Piece keeps those to a minimum, and while it's still a shounen, it doesn't have the typical 1 chapter BS powerups. It took Luffy 2 years of training, being out of the fight and not being able to get closer to One Piece and he still lost his first fight against the first major villain, and the one before that he barely one. (Shark, underwater, sea kings anyone?)
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On August 05 2012 12:36 LiamTheZerg wrote: Clearly, Forikorder doesn't understand how shounen works.
That's exactly why Bleach/Naruto are finally running down, there's a fuckton of deus ex machinas. One Piece keeps those to a minimum, and while it's still a shounen, it doesn't have the typical 1 chapter BS powerups. It took Luffy 2 years of training, being out of the fight and not being able to get closer to One Piece and he still lost his first fight against the first major villain, and the one before that he barely one. (Shark, underwater, sea kings anyone?) he was kicking Hodis ass everywhere Luffy barely got touched it was more Hodi being able to run like a bitch more then luffy having trouble with him
besides luffy hasnt "fought" CC yet that was jsut a warm up like when they first met Rob once the arc gets to its climax does the real fight start
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On August 05 2012 07:15 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 17:13 Sickkiee wrote: Was kinda' disappointed by the massive power-up Natsu/Gajeel got.
Meh, we'll see how it goes next week. whos to say they got a power up? maybe everyone is jsut piss weak and never noticed because they didnt have Fairy tail to measure against, Fairy Tail was the undisputed strongest guild 7 years ago when they disapeared its like if there was a class in a school were everyone was 7 feet tall, and the next tallest class was 5 feet tall and when the 7 feet tall people all leave the 5 feet tall people brag about how tall they are i mean the strongest guy in quatro cerberus whos supposed to be Erza level got owned by fucking elfman obviously the rest of the guilds are that weak compared to Fairy Tail
Well... then by your standards all the guilds in Fiore are super weak and would lose to all the dark guilds.
Lamia Scale has a Wizard Saint, so if they aren't the strongest guild currently (besides FT now), then that would make Sabertooth extremely strong WITHOUT a wizard saint.
At the end of the day, I just don't like the super power-ups that they get; even though it was expected.
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On August 05 2012 13:26 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:15 Forikorder wrote:On August 04 2012 17:13 Sickkiee wrote: Was kinda' disappointed by the massive power-up Natsu/Gajeel got.
Meh, we'll see how it goes next week. whos to say they got a power up? maybe everyone is jsut piss weak and never noticed because they didnt have Fairy tail to measure against, Fairy Tail was the undisputed strongest guild 7 years ago when they disapeared its like if there was a class in a school were everyone was 7 feet tall, and the next tallest class was 5 feet tall and when the 7 feet tall people all leave the 5 feet tall people brag about how tall they are i mean the strongest guy in quatro cerberus whos supposed to be Erza level got owned by fucking elfman obviously the rest of the guilds are that weak compared to Fairy Tail Well... then by your standards all the guilds in Fiore are super weak and would lose to all the dark guilds. Lamia Scale has a Wizard Saint, so if they aren't the strongest guild currently (besides FT now), then that would make Sabertooth extremely strong WITHOUT a wizard saint. At the end of the day, I just don't like the super power-ups that they get; even though it was expected. pretty sure all the dark guilds are gone since Fairy tail already took out Oraciean seis, Raven tail and grimoire heart
Sabertooth claims to be the strongest through the torunament which the rock monk dude never attended
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On August 05 2012 13:35 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 13:26 Sickkiee wrote:On August 05 2012 07:15 Forikorder wrote:On August 04 2012 17:13 Sickkiee wrote: Was kinda' disappointed by the massive power-up Natsu/Gajeel got.
Meh, we'll see how it goes next week. whos to say they got a power up? maybe everyone is jsut piss weak and never noticed because they didnt have Fairy tail to measure against, Fairy Tail was the undisputed strongest guild 7 years ago when they disapeared its like if there was a class in a school were everyone was 7 feet tall, and the next tallest class was 5 feet tall and when the 7 feet tall people all leave the 5 feet tall people brag about how tall they are i mean the strongest guy in quatro cerberus whos supposed to be Erza level got owned by fucking elfman obviously the rest of the guilds are that weak compared to Fairy Tail Well... then by your standards all the guilds in Fiore are super weak and would lose to all the dark guilds. Lamia Scale has a Wizard Saint, so if they aren't the strongest guild currently (besides FT now), then that would make Sabertooth extremely strong WITHOUT a wizard saint. At the end of the day, I just don't like the super power-ups that they get; even though it was expected. pretty sure all the dark guilds are gone since Fairy tail already took out Oraciean seis, Raven tail and grimoire heart Sabertooth claims to be the strongest through the torunament which the rock monk dude never attended
There is still one more major dark guild called Tartoros.
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On August 05 2012 12:59 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 12:36 LiamTheZerg wrote: Clearly, Forikorder doesn't understand how shounen works.
That's exactly why Bleach/Naruto are finally running down, there's a fuckton of deus ex machinas. One Piece keeps those to a minimum, and while it's still a shounen, it doesn't have the typical 1 chapter BS powerups. It took Luffy 2 years of training, being out of the fight and not being able to get closer to One Piece and he still lost his first fight against the first major villain, and the one before that he barely one. (Shark, underwater, sea kings anyone?) he was kicking Hodis ass everywhere Luffy barely got touched it was more Hodi being able to run like a bitch more then luffy having trouble with him besides luffy hasnt "fought" CC yet that was jsut a warm up like when they first met Rob once the arc gets to its climax does the real fight start
Luffy fought CC and lost.I don't understand how is that a warm-up. Luffy got cocky and overconfident and underestimated CC power and got his oxygen sucked dry.
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