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I think it's pretty well defined (most of the time) the levels of power in the series. Erza being able to take Jupiter/Aria and still fight Joze for a bit is S-class. Natsu lost to Aria, fought Gajeel and it was pretty much a double knock-out. The S-class mages do in fact prove to be a lot stronger than the non S-class ones, and this doesn't really change, even with Natsu. Natsu vs Jellal, he didn't even win and he had a huge power-up. Natsu vs Laxus he had help from Gajeel and Laxus used up a good chunk of magic from spells before+fairy law. Natsu vs Zero had power-up from Jellal. Natsu vs Hades Hades pretty much was way above them but lost his magic.
Power levels are still pretty intact, with maybe a few slip-ups here and there. I don't like how a power-up that didn't take the training the others went through made Natsu that strong though. One thing I really can't stand lol.
Also, shouldn't Lyon be incredibly strong right now? He was strong as Gray, then seven years past, so he should probably be S-class material, given that he's one of Lamia's strongest mages.
After writing that out, I saw that power levels for characters outside of the Fairy Tail guild are sort of shaky.
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On August 20 2012 11:18 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote:
Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T I think that is one of the main (albeit cheesy) themes of the manga though: Power is derived from friendship, companionship, love, etc etc. while distinctions like S-ranks are relatively less important. I think perhaps Azuma put it best when talking about Fairy Tail and Natsu in particular: On paper, they might not be that strong, but they draw strength from the bonds they have with one another. Faith into swords, if you will.
Yeah I know - I don't mind it to be honest, like the last few chapters of the manga where FT get's super mad/serious when Lucy get's dominated by that chick from Sabertooth, but still. Taking it a bit too far to just demolish ST's dragonslayers in dragon force so easily lol.
On August 20 2012 11:18 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 11:14 Sickkiee wrote:On August 20 2012 11:11 Forikorder wrote:On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote:
Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T Laxus took down both Natsu and Gajeel at the same time, Erza took down Lizanna and the water chick, Gildartz pretty mcuh beat Natsu without having to take a single step thats S class quality (oh and Laxus got a flawless victory agaisnt Raven Tail, if Natsu cant even manage to beat 2 wimps like these hes lagging pretty far behind) Pretty sure that was before they went to do that special training and got epix power up. Not to mention even before the the current arc, back when Natsu vs Hades - Hades literally got a flawless victory against FT's Master, and then suddenly Natsu beats Hades. Doesn't that make Natsu stronger than a wizard saint with Laxus power up? I dun geddit. did you like not actually read the chapter? Natsu didnt KO Hades, Hades had all his power kept in a secret machine thing and it got destroyed so he lsot all his power also Erza fought on equal level with Phantoms guild leader who was one of the 10 wizard saints, Laxus is stronger then Erza and Gildarts is stronger then him S-class is on par with the Wizard saints
That's what I mean though, it was so god damn cheesy to end it. Oh, Hades draws all his powers from x lets destroy it and let Natsu beat Hades even though Laxus couldn't rarararara.
Also I don't think S-Class are on par with wizard saints, but I think there are people a lot more powerful than wizard saints who are not wizard saints (eg. Gildarts).
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On August 20 2012 11:29 Dark_Chill wrote:
I think it's pretty well defined (most of the time) the levels of power in the series. Erza being able to take Jupiter/Aria and still fight Joze for a bit is S-class. Natsu lost to Aria, fought Gajeel and it was pretty much a double knock-out. The S-class mages do in fact prove to be a lot stronger than the non S-class ones, and this doesn't really change, even with Natsu. Natsu vs Jellal, he didn't even win and he had a huge power-up. Natsu vs Laxus he had help from Gajeel and Laxus used up a good chunk of magic from spells before+fairy law. Natsu vs Zero had power-up from Jellal. Natsu vs Hades Hades pretty much was way above them but lost his magic.
Power levels are still pretty intact, with maybe a few slip-ups here and there. I don't like how a power-up that didn't take the training the others went through made Natsu that strong though. One thing I really can't stand lol.
Also, shouldn't Lyon be incredibly strong right now? He was strong as Gray, then seven years past, so he should probably be S-class material, given that he's one of Lamia's strongest mages.
After writing that out, I saw that power levels for characters outside of the Fairy Tail guild are sort of shaky.
I'd say Lyon is very likely S-class for Lamia, since it seems that Lyon and Jura are Lamia Scales' 2 "big guns". Obviously Jura's above him, but Jura's a motherfucking bald monster. I would assume that Lamia scale's master (the bitchy old lady) would be very powerful as well, but hard to tell if she is stronger than Lyon (I highly doubt she is stronger than Jura).
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On August 20 2012 11:30 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 11:18 Bagration wrote:On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote:
Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T I think that is one of the main (albeit cheesy) themes of the manga though: Power is derived from friendship, companionship, love, etc etc. while distinctions like S-ranks are relatively less important. I think perhaps Azuma put it best when talking about Fairy Tail and Natsu in particular: On paper, they might not be that strong, but they draw strength from the bonds they have with one another. Faith into swords, if you will. Yeah I know - I don't mind it to be honest, like the last few chapters of the manga where FT get's super mad/serious when Lucy get's dominated by that chick from Sabertooth, but still. Taking it a bit too far to just demolish ST's dragonslayers in dragon force so easily lol. Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 11:18 Forikorder wrote:On August 20 2012 11:14 Sickkiee wrote:On August 20 2012 11:11 Forikorder wrote:On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote:
Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T Laxus took down both Natsu and Gajeel at the same time, Erza took down Lizanna and the water chick, Gildartz pretty mcuh beat Natsu without having to take a single step thats S class quality (oh and Laxus got a flawless victory agaisnt Raven Tail, if Natsu cant even manage to beat 2 wimps like these hes lagging pretty far behind) Pretty sure that was before they went to do that special training and got epix power up. Not to mention even before the the current arc, back when Natsu vs Hades - Hades literally got a flawless victory against FT's Master, and then suddenly Natsu beats Hades. Doesn't that make Natsu stronger than a wizard saint with Laxus power up? I dun geddit. did you like not actually read the chapter? Natsu didnt KO Hades, Hades had all his power kept in a secret machine thing and it got destroyed so he lsot all his power also Erza fought on equal level with Phantoms guild leader who was one of the 10 wizard saints, Laxus is stronger then Erza and Gildarts is stronger then him S-class is on par with the Wizard saints That's what I mean though, it was so god damn cheesy to end it. Oh, Hades draws all his powers from x lets destroy it and let Natsu beat Hades even though Laxus couldn't rarararara. Also I don't think S-Class are on par with wizard saints, but I think there are people a lot more powerful than wizard saints who are not wizard saints (eg. Gildarts).
wizard saint seems a pretty catch all category, Phantoms leader was pretty far below Fairy Tails master
also Laxus didnt try he pretty much gave all his power to Natus as soon as he got onto the field
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On August 20 2012 11:34 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 11:30 Sickkiee wrote:On August 20 2012 11:18 Bagration wrote:On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote:
Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T I think that is one of the main (albeit cheesy) themes of the manga though: Power is derived from friendship, companionship, love, etc etc. while distinctions like S-ranks are relatively less important. I think perhaps Azuma put it best when talking about Fairy Tail and Natsu in particular: On paper, they might not be that strong, but they draw strength from the bonds they have with one another. Faith into swords, if you will. Yeah I know - I don't mind it to be honest, like the last few chapters of the manga where FT get's super mad/serious when Lucy get's dominated by that chick from Sabertooth, but still. Taking it a bit too far to just demolish ST's dragonslayers in dragon force so easily lol. On August 20 2012 11:18 Forikorder wrote:On August 20 2012 11:14 Sickkiee wrote:On August 20 2012 11:11 Forikorder wrote:On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote:
Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T Laxus took down both Natsu and Gajeel at the same time, Erza took down Lizanna and the water chick, Gildartz pretty mcuh beat Natsu without having to take a single step thats S class quality (oh and Laxus got a flawless victory agaisnt Raven Tail, if Natsu cant even manage to beat 2 wimps like these hes lagging pretty far behind) Pretty sure that was before they went to do that special training and got epix power up. Not to mention even before the the current arc, back when Natsu vs Hades - Hades literally got a flawless victory against FT's Master, and then suddenly Natsu beats Hades. Doesn't that make Natsu stronger than a wizard saint with Laxus power up? I dun geddit. did you like not actually read the chapter? Natsu didnt KO Hades, Hades had all his power kept in a secret machine thing and it got destroyed so he lsot all his power also Erza fought on equal level with Phantoms guild leader who was one of the 10 wizard saints, Laxus is stronger then Erza and Gildarts is stronger then him S-class is on par with the Wizard saints That's what I mean though, it was so god damn cheesy to end it. Oh, Hades draws all his powers from x lets destroy it and let Natsu beat Hades even though Laxus couldn't rarararara. Also I don't think S-Class are on par with wizard saints, but I think there are people a lot more powerful than wizard saints who are not wizard saints (eg. Gildarts). wizard saint seems a pretty catch all category, Phantoms leader was pretty far below Fairy Tails master also Laxus didnt try he pretty much gave all his power to Natus as soon as he got onto the field
Ya there's such a power gap between wizard saints and then epix S-Class people.
I think he tried a bit and got dominated then decided to give all his power to Natsu. >_>
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On August 20 2012 11:40 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 11:34 Forikorder wrote:On August 20 2012 11:30 Sickkiee wrote:On August 20 2012 11:18 Bagration wrote:On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote:
Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T I think that is one of the main (albeit cheesy) themes of the manga though: Power is derived from friendship, companionship, love, etc etc. while distinctions like S-ranks are relatively less important. I think perhaps Azuma put it best when talking about Fairy Tail and Natsu in particular: On paper, they might not be that strong, but they draw strength from the bonds they have with one another. Faith into swords, if you will. Yeah I know - I don't mind it to be honest, like the last few chapters of the manga where FT get's super mad/serious when Lucy get's dominated by that chick from Sabertooth, but still. Taking it a bit too far to just demolish ST's dragonslayers in dragon force so easily lol. On August 20 2012 11:18 Forikorder wrote:On August 20 2012 11:14 Sickkiee wrote:On August 20 2012 11:11 Forikorder wrote:On August 20 2012 11:08 Sickkiee wrote:
Seriously Mashima makes Natsu out to be some super character but his not even S-rank lol. I don't get it seriously.
FT was going pretty damn good until the power up fights omg. T_T Laxus took down both Natsu and Gajeel at the same time, Erza took down Lizanna and the water chick, Gildartz pretty mcuh beat Natsu without having to take a single step thats S class quality (oh and Laxus got a flawless victory agaisnt Raven Tail, if Natsu cant even manage to beat 2 wimps like these hes lagging pretty far behind) Pretty sure that was before they went to do that special training and got epix power up. Not to mention even before the the current arc, back when Natsu vs Hades - Hades literally got a flawless victory against FT's Master, and then suddenly Natsu beats Hades. Doesn't that make Natsu stronger than a wizard saint with Laxus power up? I dun geddit. did you like not actually read the chapter? Natsu didnt KO Hades, Hades had all his power kept in a secret machine thing and it got destroyed so he lsot all his power also Erza fought on equal level with Phantoms guild leader who was one of the 10 wizard saints, Laxus is stronger then Erza and Gildarts is stronger then him S-class is on par with the Wizard saints That's what I mean though, it was so god damn cheesy to end it. Oh, Hades draws all his powers from x lets destroy it and let Natsu beat Hades even though Laxus couldn't rarararara. Also I don't think S-Class are on par with wizard saints, but I think there are people a lot more powerful than wizard saints who are not wizard saints (eg. Gildarts). wizard saint seems a pretty catch all category, Phantoms leader was pretty far below Fairy Tails master also Laxus didnt try he pretty much gave all his power to Natus as soon as he got onto the field Ya there's such a power gap between wizard saints and then epix S-Class people. I think he tried a bit and got dominated then decided to give all his power to Natsu. >_>
he was doing really well until he gave his power to Natsu
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I watched Fairy Tail anime up to 48 on funimation. Does anyone know a good and safe fansub site for the rest of them? This might be the wrong place to ask.
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+ Show Spoiler +Too much of a roflstomp. C'mon, natsu even crushed an unison raid breath attack? If he gets dragonforce now he's gonna be fairy tail's son goku.
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these powerups are so frustrating
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On August 24 2012 19:43 JiYan wrote:
these powerups are so frustrating
Natsu just went SuperLogia level 1.
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oh man this is worst than bleach, probably an all time low. this killed the entire anime for me. they literally outdid dbz.
the plot was very well written especially when natsu busted into the other clan and beat up everyone. but this shit is....wtf?
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I don't care how, but Sting finally got what he deserved.
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I absolutly hated it, it makes no sence that Natsu can defeat both of them w/o breaking a sweat
while Sting owned Natsu and Gajeel a moment ago.
I didnt mind mashima trolling some, but these last 2 chapters .. its just absurd.
In my eyes this manga is now going seriously downhill, while the start of this arc was so epic :/
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The names they come up for attacks are absolutely hilarious.
You know it's too long when you have 5 words in it.
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This arc was so freaking good. Just after Lucy got beaten I was expected super good chapters. I am so, so, so very disappointed.
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On August 24 2012 22:16 Kaien wrote:
I absolutly hated it, it makes no sence that Natsu can defeat both of them w/o breaking a sweat
while Sting owned Natsu and Gajeel a moment ago.
I didnt mind mashima trolling some, but these last 2 chapters .. its just absurd.
In my eyes this manga is now going seriously downhill, while the start of this arc was so epic :/
I guess I know what you mean. My favorite arcs in this manga/anime are when you get to see multiple members of the guild show how powerful they are, not just Natsu. This fight overall was decent, but it would have been much more satisfying to me personally to see Gajeel get more action (and not just the Levy kind).
I still think this arc is pretty awesome, since we get to see multiple members of Fairy Tail display their abilities (Erza and Pandemonium, Cana and the MPF, Laxus all-killing Raven Tail, Elfman beating Bacchus, Wendy vs Chelia, etc).
We do have the full team fight coming up, which should be sick.
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I'm not sure what happened this chapter, it's so disconnected, I had to reread several times cause I had a feeling I was skipping pages or something.
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Not sure what would even be the point of the full teamfight when natsu alone can completely roflstomp 2 of sabertooth's strongest members, and Natsu isn't even the strongest in the FT team.
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