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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 24 2019 02:46 GMT
#61
It's of note that Secret are still haunted by Mineski series so they take their item timing much slower than OG.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
woojaekeem
Profile Joined May 2013
United States524 Posts
August 24 2019 02:46 GMT
#62
why has no one else picked io 1 so far

is it really that hard for pro carries

you just farm ur timing and run at people with 5 heroes lol
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 24 2019 02:46 GMT
#63
On August 24 2019 11:46 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 11:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:44 goody153 wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
IO is super broken. Literally doesn't matter what happens before he gets his items and then you win

I don't think it is that OP teams still haven't figured it out but they have no time to figure it out now. Just ban it

it is literally the most OP thing in the game as of right now

more OP than tiny aghs because tiny aghs has a later timing

we also said the same thing with naga, alch and tinker before

i never said that same thing with those heroes

though alch in his strongest form was kind of close to that tier tbh
posting on liquid sites in current year
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-24 02:47:39
August 24 2019 02:47 GMT
#64
Funny to believe one of the defining picks of TI9 was initiated by ana who asked n0tail for the carry Wisp spontaneously with no team practice.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 24 2019 02:47 GMT
#65
Look how hes beating up a huge farmed medusa lol
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
August 24 2019 02:47 GMT
#66
On August 24 2019 11:46 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 11:46 goody153 wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:44 goody153 wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
IO is super broken. Literally doesn't matter what happens before he gets his items and then you win

I don't think it is that OP teams still haven't figured it out but they have no time to figure it out now. Just ban it

it is literally the most OP thing in the game as of right now

more OP than tiny aghs because tiny aghs has a later timing

we also said the same thing with naga, alch and tinker before

i never said that same thing with those heroes

though alch in his strongest form was kind of close to that tier tbh

i don't mean you specifically but the same sentiments on alot of the really strong heroes are said the same
this is a quote
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 24 2019 02:47 GMT
#67
Sorry but VG are playing like a tier 8 team. I doubt OG or Liquid or LGD make it so easy for Secret no matter what
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 24 2019 02:47 GMT
#68
I can see Helm of the Dominator getting removed or nerfed so Io can't move at like 450 movement speed by himself anymore.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 24 2019 02:48 GMT
#69
On August 24 2019 11:46 woojaekeem wrote:
why has no one else picked io 1 so far

is it really that hard for pro carries

you just farm ur timing and run at people with 5 heroes lol

Ana is a better wisp than Jerax.

Nisha has wisp as his one of the most played heroes in competitive.

Basically the only 2 people we saw running core wisp are the only 2 people who even have practice with playing wisp while currently playing carry, period.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 24 2019 02:48 GMT
#70
On August 24 2019 11:47 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 11:46 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:46 goody153 wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:44 goody153 wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
IO is super broken. Literally doesn't matter what happens before he gets his items and then you win

I don't think it is that OP teams still haven't figured it out but they have no time to figure it out now. Just ban it

it is literally the most OP thing in the game as of right now

more OP than tiny aghs because tiny aghs has a later timing

we also said the same thing with naga, alch and tinker before

i never said that same thing with those heroes

though alch in his strongest form was kind of close to that tier tbh

i don't mean you specifically but the same sentiments on alot of the really strong heroes are said the same

i wouldnt have agreed with naga and tinker at any point

with alch, plenty of teams tried counters and failed, to the point of watching teams fail to shut down alch and lose was like a very common thing
posting on liquid sites in current year
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 24 2019 02:48 GMT
#71
what a COMPLETE STOMP
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 24 2019 02:48 GMT
#72
ok then

we will never see wisp played again this tournament
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
August 24 2019 02:49 GMT
#73
yang's inability to time his ravage 3 times cost vg dearly
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woojaekeem
Profile Joined May 2013
United States524 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-24 02:49:48
August 24 2019 02:49 GMT
#74
On August 24 2019 11:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 11:46 woojaekeem wrote:
why has no one else picked io 1 so far

is it really that hard for pro carries

you just farm ur timing and run at people with 5 heroes lol

Ana is a better wisp than Jerax.

Nisha has wisp as his one of the most played heroes in competitive.

Basically the only 2 people we saw running core wisp are the only 2 people who even have practice with playing wisp while currently playing carry, period.


these are the best players int he world though

idk

it's clearly broken

I can't believe none of them were willing to say **** it we're going to try abusing this too during a bo3
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 24 2019 02:49 GMT
#75
On August 24 2019 11:48 Achaian wrote:
ok then

we will never see wisp played again this tournament

It's kind of hilarious how we have a distinct West/East split on wisp though. West teams have wisp strats, East teams do not.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
August 24 2019 02:50 GMT
#76
On August 24 2019 11:48 Achaian wrote:
ok then

we will never see wisp played again this tournament

Unless we see a Secret vs OG series. In which case, I can see them both playing chicken with Io in the first ban phase.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 24 2019 02:50 GMT
#77
On August 24 2019 11:49 woojaekeem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 11:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:46 woojaekeem wrote:
why has no one else picked io 1 so far

is it really that hard for pro carries

you just farm ur timing and run at people with 5 heroes lol

Ana is a better wisp than Jerax.

Nisha has wisp as his one of the most played heroes in competitive.

Basically the only 2 people we saw running core wisp are the only 2 people who even have practice with playing wisp while currently playing carry, period.


these are the best players int he world though

idk

it's clearly broken

I can't believe none of them were willing to say **** it we're going to try abusing this too during a bo3

i agree, i wish other teams tried it earlier/more
posting on liquid sites in current year
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 24 2019 02:50 GMT
#78
On August 24 2019 11:49 woojaekeem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 11:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:46 woojaekeem wrote:
why has no one else picked io 1 so far

is it really that hard for pro carries

you just farm ur timing and run at people with 5 heroes lol

Ana is a better wisp than Jerax.

Nisha has wisp as his one of the most played heroes in competitive.

Basically the only 2 people we saw running core wisp are the only 2 people who even have practice with playing wisp while currently playing carry, period.


these are the best players int he world though

idk

it's clearly broken

I can't believe none of them were willing to say **** it we're going to try abusing this too during a bo3


why do you think, when under pressure, people go with comfort picks? because it's a lot harder to trust yourself playing something you haven't mastered, even if it is OP
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
August 24 2019 02:50 GMT
#79
On August 24 2019 11:48 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 11:47 goody153 wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:46 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:46 goody153 wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:44 goody153 wrote:
On August 24 2019 11:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
IO is super broken. Literally doesn't matter what happens before he gets his items and then you win

I don't think it is that OP teams still haven't figured it out but they have no time to figure it out now. Just ban it

it is literally the most OP thing in the game as of right now

more OP than tiny aghs because tiny aghs has a later timing

we also said the same thing with naga, alch and tinker before

i never said that same thing with those heroes

though alch in his strongest form was kind of close to that tier tbh

i don't mean you specifically but the same sentiments on alot of the really strong heroes are said the same

i wouldnt have agreed with naga and tinker at any point

with alch, plenty of teams tried counters and failed, to the point of watching teams fail to shut down alch and lose was like a very common thing

why i said everybody said the same thing you are saying to the hero at some point

it is even more apparent for this case considering only two teams are running the IO carry as their is time to figure out how to beat an IO timing play

eventually all the most OP shit even the tinker that can farm ancient and has the instant eblade was still beatable before after awhile of everybody dying to that hero
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 24 2019 02:51 GMT
#80
The real key ban against carry wisp is Elder Titan btw.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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