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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 22 2019 10:05 GMT
#601
Wish I understood Russian or Chinese to see what the differences are in the broadcasts. I like the casting pairs fine but I think the panels on the English stream don't really even attempt to analyze games in that much detail. And then there's the panels in mid season tournaments where people straight up say "I was eating and didn't see half the game"
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 22 2019 10:06 GMT
#602
On August 22 2019 19:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 19:03 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
yapzor analysis is so good

Any good insights? I am stuck watching Russian stream because it's funnier for me.

abaddon is good against lgd's supports, tb into lesh/wl seems really bad, boat is nice against fatal bonds
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 22 2019 10:06 GMT
#603
lion + rubick is a rather odd duo
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-22 10:09:10
August 22 2019 10:07 GMT
#604
On August 22 2019 19:06 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 19:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 22 2019 19:03 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
yapzor analysis is so good

Any good insights? I am stuck watching Russian stream because it's funnier for me.

abaddon is good against lgd's supports, tb into lesh/wl seems really bad, boat is nice against fatal bonds

Huh, the boat working twice against bonds is actually something i did not think about.

P. S. Did any non-Infamous team win with WK yet?
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 22 2019 10:09 GMT
#605
On August 22 2019 19:05 spudde123 wrote:
Wish I understood Russian or Chinese to see what the differences are in the broadcasts. I like the casting pairs fine but I think the panels on the English stream don't really even attempt to analyze games in that much detail. And then there's the panels in mid season tournaments where people straight up say "I was eating and didn't see half the game"

Yeah I really don't understand the lack of post game analysis. It's not like the talent can't do it just seems a choice to focus on the 'wow that was sick now over to the banter'
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 22 2019 10:10 GMT
#606
Inf introduced the WK meta
The Real Power~
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 22 2019 10:12 GMT
#607
Was Wraith King ever a meta core before
Neosteel Enthusiast
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-22 10:12:49
August 22 2019 10:12 GMT
#608
Talking about damage, i feel like if this game gets past 30 minutes, LGD win with ease.
On August 22 2019 19:12 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Was Wraith King ever a meta core before

A year ago when his stun was actually good.
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 22 2019 10:13 GMT
#609
On August 22 2019 19:12 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Was Wraith King ever a meta core before


It was one of the most picked heroes of TI8 but I think mostly played on the offlane dual lane and not as a super heavy farmer
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 22 2019 10:14 GMT
#610
On August 22 2019 19:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
Talking about damage, i feel like if this game gets past 30 minutes, LGD win with ease.

games not going past 30 minutes
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 22 2019 10:14 GMT
#611
4 wraith bands :o
The Real Power~
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 22 2019 10:14 GMT
#612
i think lgd lost but what do i know we'll see
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 22 2019 10:17 GMT
#613
lgd can technically win if all of vg group up and get 5-man ghost ship chain stunned like 3 fights in a row.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 22 2019 10:18 GMT
#614
Insania reminder made me re-evaluate LGD's teamfight actually. Basically it depends on next item Ame is going for with his 4 wraith bands.
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Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 22 2019 10:18 GMT
#615
On August 22 2019 19:14 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i think lgd lost but what do i know we'll see


slower pace is good for lgd
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 22 2019 10:18 GMT
#616
On August 22 2019 19:13 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 19:12 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Was Wraith King ever a meta core before


It was one of the most picked heroes of TI8 but I think mostly played on the offlane dual lane and not as a super heavy farmer


WK 3 / Willow 4 was nasty last year.

WK was meta carry I think at the last Minor/Major cycle, but the timings, at TI, are different. Not sure what happened in the last patches with him. His timing is the main thing right now.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 22 2019 10:20 GMT
#617
More interesting meta trend is that Gyro is no where anymore. That's how quickly the meta shifts at TI.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 22 2019 10:21 GMT
#618
On August 22 2019 19:20 Taf the Ghost wrote:
More interesting meta trend is that Gyro is no where anymore. That's how quickly the meta shifts at TI.

He is in first phase bans.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-22 10:23:35
August 22 2019 10:22 GMT
#619
On August 22 2019 19:14 Kishin2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 19:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
Talking about damage, i feel like if this game gets past 30 minutes, LGD win with ease.

games not going past 30 minutes

At this point it might even go past 80 minutes, because of the guys who are commenting it.

EDIT: Also, Maybe outfarming freefarming WK is weird.
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 22 2019 10:23 GMT
#620
On August 22 2019 19:20 Taf the Ghost wrote:
More interesting meta trend is that Gyro is no where anymore. That's how quickly the meta shifts at TI.


Will pop up next series as a 1st ban by OG. Not sure if they have other reason for it or if it's just to deter Wisp teams from opening with that combo so OG can leave the option of core Wisp for themselves.

Though now that OG 1st phased the Wisp against NB maybe EG will just ban it
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