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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 22 2019 09:50 GMT
#581
rng evens out over time and it's still more +EV in most void games

i'm not convinced the impact ceiling of ideal chrono talent chrono usage is that high in most games, esp without a particularly good void comp

whereas backtrack, again, averages out to 33% more ehp / 25% damage reduction from all sources, which is a ridiculous thing to have as a lategame agi carry with lifesteal
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 22 2019 09:50 GMT
#582
stats for enemies/allies caught in chrono before and after the aoe talent would be interesting
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
August 22 2019 09:51 GMT
#583
My boys :D
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 22 2019 09:51 GMT
#584
On August 22 2019 18:47 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 18:45 TomatoBisque wrote:
On August 22 2019 18:26 Shergal wrote:
I just love how the Chinese panel has fucking Hao, Wings players, pros all around breaking down the games to the smallest details that we don't notice meanwhile we have Trent going "well Secret JUST PULLED IT OUT IN THE END Y'KNOW"

It blows my mind that the english panels consistently have analysts like Trent and Tsunami who are like 5k flat at best, on top of randomly throwing in people like ODPixel. I certainly don't belong on a panel and they're not more knowledgeable than I am. I guess most big name western Dota players are still playing, but there's still Fear, EGM, Envy, Moo, MoonMeander. All players that are finalists if not winners of Valve tournaments.



They tried and Bulldog probably acted like a vaccine.

And Kyle is good, even if he always believes in the push strat, like when he was a captain.

Yeah, Bulldog is a trainwreck for a lot of reasons.

Kyle and Synderen are the best for sure. Lacoste is alright, Blitz/Cap are okay. And they bring pros in after they get eliminated (like the Insania and Boxi thing going on as I type this)

I miss Winter
rip
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 22 2019 09:52 GMT
#585
Fy-god rubick in the first phase, ow.
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Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 22 2019 09:52 GMT
#586
On August 22 2019 18:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 18:47 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 22 2019 18:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 22 2019 18:42 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 22 2019 18:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 22 2019 18:36 Wintex wrote:
On August 22 2019 18:30 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 22 2019 18:29 Wintex wrote:
On August 22 2019 18:27 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
why did blitz keep saying chrono aoe is better, isn't the 25% backtrack like 33% more ehp on a dps hero that sustains in fights

A good chrono on heroes that can't handle it ends the match right then and there.
Backtrack doesn't just end the game on your onus.

A good chrono does not need to take up entire screen. If anything, it's easier to place a bad chrono with aoe talent.

Backtrack literally ends the game on it's own when you backtrack laguna blade with aghs or a crit from PA with rapier.

True, but you don't decide to backtrack one ability or the other.
People like to be in control of their destiny.

Enlightened already know that nobody is in control of their own destiny so they go along with more RNG.
When it comes to placing a chrono, they are in control. You're basically sidestepping the point, for a war on words.

Not really, i am making a general statement on free will here. If free will does not exist, then you are not in control of your chrono placements either. And even if you are, you are not in control of your team mates stepping in this chrono, just look at Yapzor last game.
Whether they choose one talent or the other is free choice for most people, unless you want to enter a discussion of spiritual inability for choice, which in itself removes your own argument. Resting on their own abilities to place a chrono, is within their control, unlike RNG, which also was your point.

Not spiritual, but physical inability of choice, to be exact. And yes, it definitely removes my argument, since it means that choosing talent itself is not a decision made of free will, but my point stands: going for more RNG and less control just makes sense.
SMH.
LiangHao
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
August 22 2019 09:52 GMT
#587
Any good games from the last two series Inf/NB and MSKI/Secret?
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 22 2019 09:53 GMT
#588
Pick rubick => crowd goes wild!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 22 2019 09:54 GMT
#589
On August 22 2019 18:52 FreakyDroid wrote:
Any good games from the last two series Inf/NB and MSKI/Secret?


All of them.
The Real Power~
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 22 2019 09:55 GMT
#590
big chrono has literally never benefited the void's team, NEVER. meanwhile in this postmodern "status resistance" satanic nullifier dota lategame, void always wants to be able to manfight outside chrono so backtrack is invaluable
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 22 2019 09:55 GMT
#591
I want to know if each player gets their own headset, cause I wouldn't want to use the same one that someone with sweaty head grease used from the previous matches.
RubickPicker
Profile Joined October 2015
United States332 Posts
August 22 2019 09:55 GMT
#592
On August 22 2019 18:53 nojok wrote:
Pick rubick => crowd goes wild!

[nods sagely]
* N U K E D *
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
August 22 2019 09:55 GMT
#593
On August 22 2019 18:54 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 18:52 FreakyDroid wrote:
Any good games from the last two series Inf/NB and MSKI/Secret?


All of them.


Cool thanks!
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 22 2019 09:57 GMT
#594
On August 22 2019 18:55 FreakyDroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2019 18:54 Zea! wrote:
On August 22 2019 18:52 FreakyDroid wrote:
Any good games from the last two series Inf/NB and MSKI/Secret?


All of them.


Cool thanks!


If you can't watch everything, at least all Mineski vs Secret series.
The Real Power~
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 22 2019 09:59 GMT
#595
rofl, accurate.

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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 22 2019 10:00 GMT
#596
On August 22 2019 18:52 FreakyDroid wrote:
Any good games from the last two series Inf/NB and MSKI/Secret?


Inf/NB was kind of a sad series, but Mineski/Secret is a top 5 of all-time series at TI.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-22 10:03:08
August 22 2019 10:02 GMT
#597
To be honest, i am not sure about LGD's draft. It feels like it can run out of steam with ease and then roll over. Especially against offlane Abba.

Also i have bad deja vu of kunkka+TB by LGD.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 22 2019 10:03 GMT
#598
yapzor analysis is so good
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 22 2019 10:03 GMT
#599
On August 22 2019 19:03 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
yapzor analysis is so good

Any good insights? I am stuck watching Russian stream because it's funnier for me.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 22 2019 10:04 GMT
#600
i mean insania
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