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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
August 21 2019 10:09 GMT
#681
On August 21 2019 19:05 goody153 wrote:
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On August 21 2019 19:03 FreakyDroid wrote:
Well EU and CIS are long overdue for a major reshuffle.

Yeah. If TNC manages to crush Liquid again too.

We are gonna see it happen bigtime.


I think that if TL wins against TNC and get through the next LB team (RNG/VP), they will face EG or OG and they will loose to either of those 2 teams. In any case that will be a bad result for them so I do expect them to change roster anyways.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
August 21 2019 10:10 GMT
#682
On August 21 2019 19:08 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote:
Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes anymore.
Or you could argue teams are more drilled to stay together, fighting adversity.

Alot of teams learned from the top western teams strategy to just sit tight and work through their issues. Compared to before where teams just kick and disband left and right.

Now the normal strat is stick together even under difficulty.
this is a quote
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 21 2019 10:11 GMT
#683
"Drink vodka, play dotka"

This explains so much.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
August 21 2019 10:12 GMT
#684
On August 21 2019 19:09 FreakyDroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 19:05 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 19:03 FreakyDroid wrote:
Well EU and CIS are long overdue for a major reshuffle.

Yeah. If TNC manages to crush Liquid again too.

We are gonna see it happen bigtime.


I think that if TL wins against TNC and get through the next LB team (RNG/VP), they will face EG or OG and they will loose to either of those 2 teams. In any case that will be a bad result for them so I do expect them to change roster anyways.

Same thing i thought if they manage to go through TNC. They are certainly gonna change a player or two for sure from the looks of things regardless of the result
this is a quote
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-21 10:13:43
August 21 2019 10:13 GMT
#685
On August 21 2019 19:10 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 19:08 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote:
Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes anymore.
Or you could argue teams are more drilled to stay together, fighting adversity.

Alot of teams learned from the top western teams strategy to just sit tight and work through their issues. Compared to before where teams just kick and disband left and right.

Now the normal strat is stick together even under difficulty.


OK well thats a good point, but TL already showed that they are willing to swap out player[s] and right before TI. As for VP, well they've had no success on TI's for what. 4th year? So I dunno if this will hold true this year, I think we're in for a major reshuffle.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 21 2019 10:14 GMT
#686
On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote:
Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes.

new blood Topson just won TI last year
Neosteel Enthusiast
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
August 21 2019 10:14 GMT
#687
On August 21 2019 19:13 FreakyDroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 19:10 goody153 wrote:
On August 21 2019 19:08 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote:
Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes anymore.
Or you could argue teams are more drilled to stay together, fighting adversity.

Alot of teams learned from the top western teams strategy to just sit tight and work through their issues. Compared to before where teams just kick and disband left and right.

Now the normal strat is stick together even under difficulty.


OK well thats a good point, but TL already showed that they are willing to swap out player[s] and right before TI. As for VP, well they've had no success on TI's for what. 4th year? So I dunno if this will hold true this year, I think we're in for a major reshuffle.

VP is definitely gonna lose a player or two. They don't seem to have the alliance/OG style of inteam chemistry that they are fostering.
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
August 21 2019 10:15 GMT
#688
On August 21 2019 19:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote:
Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes.

new blood Topson just won TI last year

Nisha is also destroying this year. Then we have those VG new bloods. There is actually so many new players each year.
this is a quote
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 21 2019 10:16 GMT
#689
On August 21 2019 19:10 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 19:08 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote:
Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes anymore.
Or you could argue teams are more drilled to stay together, fighting adversity.

Alot of teams learned from the top western teams strategy to just sit tight and work through their issues. Compared to before where teams just kick and disband left and right.

Now the normal strat is stick together even under difficulty.
Yeah, exactly, and this stability causes it to be hard for other teams to break in, with the limited spots, and top tournaments lesser teams can participate in. Dota 2 has suffered because ValvE has ignored EU and CIS, to stimulate NA, SEA, China, and now South America. Which has caused some positives for those regions, but the thriving regions of EU and CIS has long since reached its zenith, because minor tournaments are at large irrelevant and without top participation.
LiangHao
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
August 21 2019 10:17 GMT
#690
GH was also relatively fresh when coming into TI7, basically you are having every year some players making their entrance onto the big stage.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
August 21 2019 10:18 GMT
#691
On August 21 2019 19:17 Rufus Dupres wrote:
GH was also relatively fresh when coming into TI7, basically you are having every year some players making their entrance onto the big stage.

I literally forgot GH. Topson too both won TI at their entry year.
this is a quote
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 21 2019 10:19 GMT
#692
RNG is in full on "we're just copying EG who copied OG". Might work today.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
August 21 2019 10:20 GMT
#693
is that super at rng team ?
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 21 2019 10:23 GMT
#694
On August 21 2019 19:17 Rufus Dupres wrote:
GH was also relatively fresh when coming into TI7, basically you are having every year some players making their entrance onto the big stage.
But they are essentially just players that are poached by some of the top teams. OG is responsible for most of them; Ana, Topson, Cr1t-, and Miracle-.
LiangHao
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 21 2019 10:24 GMT
#695
On August 21 2019 19:20 Snakesneaks wrote:
is that super at rng team ?

Yea, he's their coach.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
August 21 2019 10:24 GMT
#696
2-0
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 21 2019 10:26 GMT
#697
"We won the draft, but lost the game somehow. Now we tried to lose to draft so we can win'

Neosteel Enthusiast
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 21 2019 10:26 GMT
#698
On August 21 2019 19:20 Snakesneaks wrote:
is that super at rng team ?


Super is the coach, so yes.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 21 2019 10:26 GMT
#699
On August 21 2019 19:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote:
Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes.

new blood Topson just won TI last year

And 7uckingMad was recycled after many years on the coaching bench, almost counts as a new face.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
August 21 2019 10:27 GMT
#700
On August 21 2019 19:23 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 19:17 Rufus Dupres wrote:
GH was also relatively fresh when coming into TI7, basically you are having every year some players making their entrance onto the big stage.
But they are essentially just players that are poached by some of the top teams. OG is responsible for most of them; Ana, Topson, Cr1t-, and Miracle-.

Nisha, Ace, CCNC, 33, Abed, DJ.

Plenty of other teams have managed to gain new blood and not just OG lol Crit isn't even new afaik
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