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On August 21 2019 19:05 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 19:03 FreakyDroid wrote: Well EU and CIS are long overdue for a major reshuffle. Yeah. If TNC manages to crush Liquid again too. We are gonna see it happen bigtime.
I think that if TL wins against TNC and get through the next LB team (RNG/VP), they will face EG or OG and they will loose to either of those 2 teams. In any case that will be a bad result for them so I do expect them to change roster anyways.
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On August 21 2019 19:08 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote: Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes anymore. Or you could argue teams are more drilled to stay together, fighting adversity. Alot of teams learned from the top western teams strategy to just sit tight and work through their issues. Compared to before where teams just kick and disband left and right.
Now the normal strat is stick together even under difficulty.
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"Drink vodka, play dotka"
This explains so much.
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On August 21 2019 19:09 FreakyDroid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 19:05 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 19:03 FreakyDroid wrote: Well EU and CIS are long overdue for a major reshuffle. Yeah. If TNC manages to crush Liquid again too. We are gonna see it happen bigtime. I think that if TL wins against TNC and get through the next LB team (RNG/VP), they will face EG or OG and they will loose to either of those 2 teams. In any case that will be a bad result for them so I do expect them to change roster anyways. Same thing i thought if they manage to go through TNC. They are certainly gonna change a player or two for sure from the looks of things regardless of the result
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On August 21 2019 19:10 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 19:08 Dracolich70 wrote:On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote: Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes anymore. Or you could argue teams are more drilled to stay together, fighting adversity. Alot of teams learned from the top western teams strategy to just sit tight and work through their issues. Compared to before where teams just kick and disband left and right. Now the normal strat is stick together even under difficulty.
OK well thats a good point, but TL already showed that they are willing to swap out player[s] and right before TI. As for VP, well they've had no success on TI's for what. 4th year? So I dunno if this will hold true this year, I think we're in for a major reshuffle.
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On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote: Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes. new blood Topson just won TI last year
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On August 21 2019 19:13 FreakyDroid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 19:10 goody153 wrote:On August 21 2019 19:08 Dracolich70 wrote:On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote: Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes anymore. Or you could argue teams are more drilled to stay together, fighting adversity. Alot of teams learned from the top western teams strategy to just sit tight and work through their issues. Compared to before where teams just kick and disband left and right. Now the normal strat is stick together even under difficulty. OK well thats a good point, but TL already showed that they are willing to swap out player[s] and right before TI. As for VP, well they've had no success on TI's for what. 4th year? So I dunno if this will hold true this year, I think we're in for a major reshuffle. VP is definitely gonna lose a player or two. They don't seem to have the alliance/OG style of inteam chemistry that they are fostering.
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On August 21 2019 19:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote: Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes. new blood Topson just won TI last year Nisha is also destroying this year. Then we have those VG new bloods. There is actually so many new players each year.
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On August 21 2019 19:10 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 19:08 Dracolich70 wrote:On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote: Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes anymore. Or you could argue teams are more drilled to stay together, fighting adversity. Alot of teams learned from the top western teams strategy to just sit tight and work through their issues. Compared to before where teams just kick and disband left and right. Now the normal strat is stick together even under difficulty. Yeah, exactly, and this stability causes it to be hard for other teams to break in, with the limited spots, and top tournaments lesser teams can participate in. Dota 2 has suffered because ValvE has ignored EU and CIS, to stimulate NA, SEA, China, and now South America. Which has caused some positives for those regions, but the thriving regions of EU and CIS has long since reached its zenith, because minor tournaments are at large irrelevant and without top participation.
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GH was also relatively fresh when coming into TI7, basically you are having every year some players making their entrance onto the big stage.
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On August 21 2019 19:17 Rufus Dupres wrote: GH was also relatively fresh when coming into TI7, basically you are having every year some players making their entrance onto the big stage. I literally forgot GH. Topson too both won TI at their entry year.
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RNG is in full on "we're just copying EG who copied OG". Might work today.
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is that super at rng team ?
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On August 21 2019 19:17 Rufus Dupres wrote: GH was also relatively fresh when coming into TI7, basically you are having every year some players making their entrance onto the big stage. But they are essentially just players that are poached by some of the top teams. OG is responsible for most of them; Ana, Topson, Cr1t-, and Miracle-.
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On August 21 2019 19:20 Snakesneaks wrote: is that super at rng team ? Yea, he's their coach.
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"We won the draft, but lost the game somehow. Now we tried to lose to draft so we can win'
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On August 21 2019 19:20 Snakesneaks wrote: is that super at rng team ?
Super is the coach, so yes.
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On August 21 2019 19:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 19:07 babysimba wrote: Sadly, this game is on a slow death and there are almost no more new blood coming in anymore. Don't know if any new teams can challenge those top teams that only do minor roster changes. new blood Topson just won TI last year And 7uckingMad was recycled after many years on the coaching bench, almost counts as a new face.
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On August 21 2019 19:23 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 19:17 Rufus Dupres wrote: GH was also relatively fresh when coming into TI7, basically you are having every year some players making their entrance onto the big stage. But they are essentially just players that are poached by some of the top teams. OG is responsible for most of them; Ana, Topson, Cr1t-, and Miracle-. Nisha, Ace, CCNC, 33, Abed, DJ.
Plenty of other teams have managed to gain new blood and not just OG lol Crit isn't even new afaik
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