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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 15 2018 14:14 GMT
#121
On April 15 2018 23:05 Taf the Ghost wrote:
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On April 15 2018 23:00 goody153 wrote:
On April 15 2018 22:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On April 15 2018 22:54 goody153 wrote:
If you think about it and this SF is instead a DK. Fnatic won't actually have the problem of never outscaling PL


I'm coming to the opinion that, unless you have a really key 1-4 picks, that 2nd pick/final pick is the best choice in the drafting right now.

Tbh it's the final PL pick by optic that kinda grates my nerves that Fnatic didn't anticipate that. PL is one of the most picked and most understood hero this past few months and they did not expect a PL pick

just disappointing


They banned Tidehunter for the last ban by Fnatic in game 2, so they thought Pajkatt was playing Razor.


They banned Brood, not Tide
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 15 2018 14:15 GMT
#122
PPD get treant to fuck this pango up
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 15 2018 14:16 GMT
#123
On April 15 2018 23:14 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 23:05 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On April 15 2018 23:00 goody153 wrote:
On April 15 2018 22:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On April 15 2018 22:54 goody153 wrote:
If you think about it and this SF is instead a DK. Fnatic won't actually have the problem of never outscaling PL


I'm coming to the opinion that, unless you have a really key 1-4 picks, that 2nd pick/final pick is the best choice in the drafting right now.

Tbh it's the final PL pick by optic that kinda grates my nerves that Fnatic didn't anticipate that. PL is one of the most picked and most understood hero this past few months and they did not expect a PL pick

just disappointing


They banned Tidehunter for the last ban by Fnatic in game 2, so they thought Pajkatt was playing Razor.


They banned Brood, not Tide


Good point, that was game 1. My bad.

On April 15 2018 23:15 babysimba wrote:
PPD get treant to fuck this pango up



I'd love to see it, but the pos 4 version seems better than pos 5.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44254 Posts
April 15 2018 14:24 GMT
#124
My bet is on Optic. They have means to actually stop naix on its tracks(BM/Lina)
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 15 2018 14:25 GMT
#125
Adam tried to pull the wave but missed it?
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 15 2018 14:27 GMT
#126
How did that gank work on mid lol
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44254 Posts
April 15 2018 14:30 GMT
#127
On April 15 2018 23:27 spudde123 wrote:
How did that gank work on mid lol

You see this kind of shit and you question why they replaced pieliedie with adam
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 15 2018 14:31 GMT
#128
How does Fnatic take towers?
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 15 2018 14:33 GMT
#129
On April 15 2018 23:30 goody153 wrote:
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On April 15 2018 23:27 spudde123 wrote:
How did that gank work on mid lol

You see this kind of shit and you question why they replaced pieliedie with adam


I wrote my thoughts in the 343 thread but judging from the interview EE had at SL my guess is that it's not actually a replacement but just something is going on with PLD which forced him to sit out and they don't want to share what it is so they came up with a weird excuse about "cohesion".
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44254 Posts
April 15 2018 14:33 GMT
#130
On April 15 2018 23:31 Taf the Ghost wrote:
How does Fnatic take towers?

Naix rage in-out. Or naix plays the bait then if optic focuses him they have kunkka/pango who just blows up the backline who are all squishy then they just push if they managed to do that
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44254 Posts
April 15 2018 14:35 GMT
#131
On April 15 2018 23:33 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 23:30 goody153 wrote:
On April 15 2018 23:27 spudde123 wrote:
How did that gank work on mid lol

You see this kind of shit and you question why they replaced pieliedie with adam


I wrote my thoughts in the 343 thread but judging from the interview EE had at SL my guess is that it's not actually a replacement but just something is going on with PLD which forced him to sit out and they don't want to share what it is so they came up with a weird excuse about "cohesion".

Yeah i feel like they've said "replaced" or other similar words if they really did replace pieliedie. Maybe it's still an ongoing decision since i don't think they're willing to give up their TI points and go through open qualis unlike OG who was clearly not working out at all
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 15 2018 14:37 GMT
#132
To me this game feels really hard for Fnatic. Their teamfight is really good but I don't see how they get into positions to get those fights. Optic will just kill waves super fast and farm
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 15 2018 14:37 GMT
#133
They do have a reliable way to siege high ground with rage and x mark.

Outer tower wise, they have pretty good creep clear for shoving in lanes. Just need to win fights.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 15 2018 14:37 GMT
#134
On April 15 2018 23:33 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 23:31 Taf the Ghost wrote:
How does Fnatic take towers?

Naix rage in-out. Or naix plays the bait then if optic focuses him they have kunkka/pango who just blows up the backline who are all squishy then they just push if they managed to do that


Even raged, ranged right-click from Lina and if not raged, Rubick & Kotl. Also, good luck getting a wave to the tower.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-15 14:42:57
April 15 2018 14:40 GMT
#135
On April 15 2018 23:37 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 23:33 goody153 wrote:
On April 15 2018 23:31 Taf the Ghost wrote:
How does Fnatic take towers?

Naix rage in-out. Or naix plays the bait then if optic focuses him they have kunkka/pango who just blows up the backline who are all squishy then they just push if they managed to do that


Even raged, ranged right-click from Lina and if not raged, Rubick & Kotl. Also, good luck getting a wave to the tower.

You underestimate lategame kunkka and the ridiculous range that his passive has, optic drafted a lineup that is one crit away from everybody just dying like a pig. Lina doesn't do enough damage until really late into the game where the naix rage in-out becomes hard

The creepwave is a problem tho
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44254 Posts
April 15 2018 14:42 GMT
#136
This is another fnatic linkens/lotus orb game. Nobody is gonna get initiated easily if they just buy those defensive items
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 15 2018 14:43 GMT
#137
On April 15 2018 23:42 goody153 wrote:
This is another fnatic linkens/lotus orb game. Nobody is gonna get initiated easily if they just buy those defensive items


I think Fnatic will just get pulled apart by Optic's lane push and will never end up getting proper fights. Optic doesn't have to do anything and they will outfarm Fnatic really hard, and Fnatic's pickoff potential isn't that great
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
April 15 2018 14:44 GMT
#138
Piecat bkb first item. Solid like fuck, gives no chances for throwing
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44254 Posts
April 15 2018 14:44 GMT
#139
was SnY buffed ? why is everybody buying SnY even the Manta heroes are opting SnY
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 15 2018 14:44 GMT
#140
Optic is letting Zai farm the entire jungle (and can since the T1 is still up), once he gets Aghs, they'll push.
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