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On April 15 2018 23:05 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2018 23:00 goody153 wrote:On April 15 2018 22:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:On April 15 2018 22:54 goody153 wrote: If you think about it and this SF is instead a DK. Fnatic won't actually have the problem of never outscaling PL I'm coming to the opinion that, unless you have a really key 1-4 picks, that 2nd pick/final pick is the best choice in the drafting right now. Tbh it's the final PL pick by optic that kinda grates my nerves that Fnatic didn't anticipate that. PL is one of the most picked and most understood hero this past few months and they did not expect a PL pick just disappointing They banned Tidehunter for the last ban by Fnatic in game 2, so they thought Pajkatt was playing Razor.
They banned Brood, not Tide
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PPD get treant to fuck this pango up
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On April 15 2018 23:14 spudde123 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2018 23:05 Taf the Ghost wrote:On April 15 2018 23:00 goody153 wrote:On April 15 2018 22:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:On April 15 2018 22:54 goody153 wrote: If you think about it and this SF is instead a DK. Fnatic won't actually have the problem of never outscaling PL I'm coming to the opinion that, unless you have a really key 1-4 picks, that 2nd pick/final pick is the best choice in the drafting right now. Tbh it's the final PL pick by optic that kinda grates my nerves that Fnatic didn't anticipate that. PL is one of the most picked and most understood hero this past few months and they did not expect a PL pick just disappointing They banned Tidehunter for the last ban by Fnatic in game 2, so they thought Pajkatt was playing Razor. They banned Brood, not Tide
Good point, that was game 1. My bad.
On April 15 2018 23:15 babysimba wrote: PPD get treant to fuck this pango up
I'd love to see it, but the pos 4 version seems better than pos 5.
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My bet is on Optic. They have means to actually stop naix on its tracks(BM/Lina)
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Adam tried to pull the wave but missed it?
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How did that gank work on mid lol
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On April 15 2018 23:27 spudde123 wrote: How did that gank work on mid lol You see this kind of shit and you question why they replaced pieliedie with adam
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How does Fnatic take towers?
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On April 15 2018 23:30 goody153 wrote:You see this kind of shit and you question why they replaced pieliedie with adam
I wrote my thoughts in the 343 thread but judging from the interview EE had at SL my guess is that it's not actually a replacement but just something is going on with PLD which forced him to sit out and they don't want to share what it is so they came up with a weird excuse about "cohesion".
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On April 15 2018 23:31 Taf the Ghost wrote: How does Fnatic take towers? Naix rage in-out. Or naix plays the bait then if optic focuses him they have kunkka/pango who just blows up the backline who are all squishy then they just push if they managed to do that
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On April 15 2018 23:33 spudde123 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2018 23:30 goody153 wrote:On April 15 2018 23:27 spudde123 wrote: How did that gank work on mid lol You see this kind of shit and you question why they replaced pieliedie with adam I wrote my thoughts in the 343 thread but judging from the interview EE had at SL my guess is that it's not actually a replacement but just something is going on with PLD which forced him to sit out and they don't want to share what it is so they came up with a weird excuse about "cohesion". Yeah i feel like they've said "replaced" or other similar words if they really did replace pieliedie. Maybe it's still an ongoing decision since i don't think they're willing to give up their TI points and go through open qualis unlike OG who was clearly not working out at all
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To me this game feels really hard for Fnatic. Their teamfight is really good but I don't see how they get into positions to get those fights. Optic will just kill waves super fast and farm
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They do have a reliable way to siege high ground with rage and x mark.
Outer tower wise, they have pretty good creep clear for shoving in lanes. Just need to win fights.
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On April 15 2018 23:33 goody153 wrote:Naix rage in-out. Or naix plays the bait then if optic focuses him they have kunkka/pango who just blows up the backline who are all squishy then they just push if they managed to do that
Even raged, ranged right-click from Lina and if not raged, Rubick & Kotl. Also, good luck getting a wave to the tower.
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On April 15 2018 23:37 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2018 23:33 goody153 wrote:On April 15 2018 23:31 Taf the Ghost wrote: How does Fnatic take towers? Naix rage in-out. Or naix plays the bait then if optic focuses him they have kunkka/pango who just blows up the backline who are all squishy then they just push if they managed to do that Even raged, ranged right-click from Lina and if not raged, Rubick & Kotl. Also, good luck getting a wave to the tower. You underestimate lategame kunkka and the ridiculous range that his passive has, optic drafted a lineup that is one crit away from everybody just dying like a pig. Lina doesn't do enough damage until really late into the game where the naix rage in-out becomes hard
The creepwave is a problem tho
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This is another fnatic linkens/lotus orb game. Nobody is gonna get initiated easily if they just buy those defensive items
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On April 15 2018 23:42 goody153 wrote: This is another fnatic linkens/lotus orb game. Nobody is gonna get initiated easily if they just buy those defensive items
I think Fnatic will just get pulled apart by Optic's lane push and will never end up getting proper fights. Optic doesn't have to do anything and they will outfarm Fnatic really hard, and Fnatic's pickoff potential isn't that great
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Piecat bkb first item. Solid like fuck, gives no chances for throwing
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was SnY buffed ? why is everybody buying SnY even the Manta heroes are opting SnY
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Optic is letting Zai farm the entire jungle (and can since the T1 is still up), once he gets Aghs, they'll push.
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