VG.J and Fnatic looks lost and subpar in the current tournament( a month ago i'd say either teams would win the entire thing). They're very much out of form while Optic looks just as good as when they played during the major
On April 15 2018 14:49 goody153 wrote: Optic is most likely gonna win.
VG.J and Fnatic looks lost and subpar in the current tournament( a month ago i'd say either teams would win the entire thing). They're very much out of form while Optic looks just as good as when they played during the major
Optic is favored, but EE & company can come in with a good plan and eek out wins. But Optic is a lot better than NaVi, so I don't expect Fnatic to be able to exploit the places Optic is weak. I also expect ppd to make sure Universe has a rough game, as he's the one that pulls out their wins for them over NaVi. Plus we can expect Optic to build their heroes for the game properly.
On April 15 2018 15:38 MarthTV wrote: Wasnt able to watch yesterday. How did NaVi perform? Was it alright or did Fnatic and SG underperform?
NaVi was able to run heavy laning pressure in a classic CIS approach against fairly weak laning from SG, which let NaVi snowball.
Against Fnatic, NaVi ran into the problems they're having against top-tier teams. They don't have item synergy, so the end up with a lot of net worth that has little value. Though, at this LAN, I'd honestly say I feel NaVi is the better team, but Fnatic has more complete strategies. Game 2 is worth watching, but Game 3 turned on Crystallize getting picked off then NaVi trying to take a fight around Roshan into a Warlock.
Funny part about the group stage is that, for all of the massive game lengths between NaVi & Fnatic, the Meta hasn't actually changed. Strong lanes into Win The Team Fight into quick building takers.
On April 15 2018 15:38 MarthTV wrote: Wasnt able to watch yesterday. How did NaVi perform? Was it alright or did Fnatic and SG underperform?
NaVi was able to run heavy laning pressure in a classic CIS approach against fairly weak laning from SG, which let NaVi snowball.
Against Fnatic, NaVi ran into the problems they're having against top-tier teams. They don't have item synergy, so the end up with a lot of net worth that has little value. Though, at this LAN, I'd honestly say I feel NaVi is the better team, but Fnatic has more complete strategies. Game 2 is worth watching, but Game 3 turned on Crystallize getting picked off then NaVi trying to take a fight around Roshan into a Warlock.
Funny part about the group stage is that, for all of the massive game lengths between NaVi & Fnatic, the Meta hasn't actually changed. Strong lanes into Win The Team Fight into quick building takers.
Thank you for the recap!
Alright so not bad but not stellar either. Will watch G2.
I really wonder what roster changes they will make. Pretty sure they wont stay in this formation.
On April 15 2018 15:38 MarthTV wrote: Wasnt able to watch yesterday. How did NaVi perform? Was it alright or did Fnatic and SG underperform?
NaVi was able to run heavy laning pressure in a classic CIS approach against fairly weak laning from SG, which let NaVi snowball.
Against Fnatic, NaVi ran into the problems they're having against top-tier teams. They don't have item synergy, so the end up with a lot of net worth that has little value. Though, at this LAN, I'd honestly say I feel NaVi is the better team, but Fnatic has more complete strategies. Game 2 is worth watching, but Game 3 turned on Crystallize getting picked off then NaVi trying to take a fight around Roshan into a Warlock.
Funny part about the group stage is that, for all of the massive game lengths between NaVi & Fnatic, the Meta hasn't actually changed. Strong lanes into Win The Team Fight into quick building takers.
Thank you for the recap!
Alright so not bad but not stellar either. Will watch G2.
I really wonder what roster changes they will make. Pretty sure they wont stay in this formation.
They don't have a pos 5. Lebron is actually a "good enough" ward placer, but both he & lil are playing as pos 4. If they aren't roaming, they end up pretty poor and useless in the mid-game. Item builds have also been really questionable from them. Though I think General is the worst one at that. If the game goes late, it feels like he's itemizing for a different game.
On April 15 2018 16:12 Dota2_314 wrote: Is the time wrong on liquiddota or what is going on???? I already finished my coffee, and straem still didnt start.
Liquipedia is now saying 1h 40min. So apparently it's in a bit.
On April 15 2018 15:38 MarthTV wrote: Wasnt able to watch yesterday. How did NaVi perform? Was it alright or did Fnatic and SG underperform?
NaVi was able to run heavy laning pressure in a classic CIS approach against fairly weak laning from SG, which let NaVi snowball.
Against Fnatic, NaVi ran into the problems they're having against top-tier teams. They don't have item synergy, so the end up with a lot of net worth that has little value. Though, at this LAN, I'd honestly say I feel NaVi is the better team, but Fnatic has more complete strategies. Game 2 is worth watching, but Game 3 turned on Crystallize getting picked off then NaVi trying to take a fight around Roshan into a Warlock.
Funny part about the group stage is that, for all of the massive game lengths between NaVi & Fnatic, the Meta hasn't actually changed. Strong lanes into Win The Team Fight into quick building takers.
Thank you for the recap!
Alright so not bad but not stellar either. Will watch G2.
I really wonder what roster changes they will make. Pretty sure they wont stay in this formation.
They don't have a pos 5. Lebron is actually a "good enough" ward placer, but both he & lil are playing as pos 4. If they aren't roaming, they end up pretty poor and useless in the mid-game. Item builds have also been really questionable from them. Though I think General is the worst one at that. If the game goes late, it feels like he's itemizing for a different game.
Fair point. I feel the same about the supports but havent really looked at Gerneals performance that closely.
On April 15 2018 15:38 MarthTV wrote: Wasnt able to watch yesterday. How did NaVi perform? Was it alright or did Fnatic and SG underperform?
NaVi was able to run heavy laning pressure in a classic CIS approach against fairly weak laning from SG, which let NaVi snowball.
Against Fnatic, NaVi ran into the problems they're having against top-tier teams. They don't have item synergy, so the end up with a lot of net worth that has little value. Though, at this LAN, I'd honestly say I feel NaVi is the better team, but Fnatic has more complete strategies. Game 2 is worth watching, but Game 3 turned on Crystallize getting picked off then NaVi trying to take a fight around Roshan into a Warlock.
Funny part about the group stage is that, for all of the massive game lengths between NaVi & Fnatic, the Meta hasn't actually changed. Strong lanes into Win The Team Fight into quick building takers.
Thank you for the recap!
Alright so not bad but not stellar either. Will watch G2.
I really wonder what roster changes they will make. Pretty sure they wont stay in this formation.
They don't have a pos 5. Lebron is actually a "good enough" ward placer, but both he & lil are playing as pos 4. If they aren't roaming, they end up pretty poor and useless in the mid-game. Item builds have also been really questionable from them. Though I think General is the worst one at that. If the game goes late, it feels like he's itemizing for a different game.
Fair point. I feel the same about the supports but havent really looked at Gerneals performance that closely.
Probably the best example of NaVi's issues. They're against a Medusa, they have 1 pike (no forcestaffs), no Crimson or Pipe, and General doesn't have a Shiva's nor does either carry have an AC. There also isn't any evasion built on anyone, or at least a solar crest in the early game or even on the supports since the main cores were heavy right-click.
Also, since the game went really late, build a necrobook on your supports. Aside from adding more spam to eat up Medusa shots, it also has a mana burn that's a problem for her. Plus, against 4p1 Medusa, even the Tusk Aghs would have been good. Kick Medusa, while slowed, and kill the team then Medusa. Also works for high ground sieging.
NaVi for itemized for a game that wasn't happening and lost because of it.
I missed the actual draft, and I'm not sure this is a great draft by VGJ.T. However, you draft a Puck into an Underlord when you only have a gyro as carry? You need a lot more damage than that.
EPT
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