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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 12 2017 21:15 GMT
#1501
On August 13 2017 06:14 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 06:13 BlazingGlory wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
That said i think Super has cemented his legacy as the best TI performer to not win a TI.


Kuro will have 2 lost finals is Liquid loses this.

depending on who u ask, kuro was a defining factor why natus vincere lost vs alliance.
fuk ye xboct

They should try a TI3 reunion of Na'Vi but I don't think PPY/Kuro would get along.

Maybe they'll make Dendi captain/draft because of it rofl.
kiss kiss fall in love
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 12 2017 21:15 GMT
#1502
Great game. Both teams showing their respective resilience at different stages of the game. Liquid had superior draft strategy and didnt lose focus on what they needed to do to win.

Imo, LFY's best chance was when they won the fight into quick Roshan while TB was dead. If Veno wasnt dragged into thw pit and gave vision, it would have been much riskier for Furion to tp in. With Aegis, they could push objectives and regain some control but without it, Liquid pretty much never lost control of the macro game.

Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
August 12 2017 21:15 GMT
#1503
also i agree with kuroeaheeae. liquid is way too draftdependant
The Bomber boy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-12 21:16:20
August 12 2017 21:16 GMT
#1504
On August 13 2017 06:15 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 06:14 Wintex wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:13 BlazingGlory wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
That said i think Super has cemented his legacy as the best TI performer to not win a TI.


Kuro will have 2 lost finals is Liquid loses this.

depending on who u ask, kuro was a defining factor why natus vincere lost vs alliance.
fuk ye xboct

They should try a TI3 reunion of Na'Vi but I don't think PPY/Kuro would get along.

Maybe they'll make Dendi captain/draft because of it rofl.

TI3 version of Navi would not last a day, they are not exactly on good terms with each other at this point, Dendi+anyone relationship aside.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
August 12 2017 21:16 GMT
#1505
On August 13 2017 06:14 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 06:13 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:09 intotheheart wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:08 Kuroeeah wrote:
i'm surprised majority of the LR is actually backing Liquid to wi... Looks at the site i'm on..nvm

LiquidBias bruh.

Plus winning TI is a safe way to remove Miracle and GH from the scene.

Wait how? Miracle and GH were playing pretty well. You don't get those sorts of wins over LFY by having 3v5...

i'm sure i'm going to get shit for making this comment but liquid throughout the entire tournament looked very one note. Their games are predicated on whether or not they get their draft and if one key player like Miracle or GH doesn't get their comfort hero, they actually lose their games horrendously.

I'm ready to eat my words here but honestly you can tell whether Liquid wins throughout this entire tournament just from draft alone. Can't say the same about other teams but well Liquid got this far for a reason.

To be fair though, that's an insane achievement for winning a TI. Just by drafting better than anyone else.

draft kotl = win games
draft huskar = also win games
6nnn
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 12 2017 21:17 GMT
#1506
On August 13 2017 06:16 sunrazgriz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 06:14 intotheheart wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:13 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:09 intotheheart wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:08 Kuroeeah wrote:
i'm surprised majority of the LR is actually backing Liquid to wi... Looks at the site i'm on..nvm

LiquidBias bruh.

Plus winning TI is a safe way to remove Miracle and GH from the scene.

Wait how? Miracle and GH were playing pretty well. You don't get those sorts of wins over LFY by having 3v5...

i'm sure i'm going to get shit for making this comment but liquid throughout the entire tournament looked very one note. Their games are predicated on whether or not they get their draft and if one key player like Miracle or GH doesn't get their comfort hero, they actually lose their games horrendously.

I'm ready to eat my words here but honestly you can tell whether Liquid wins throughout this entire tournament just from draft alone. Can't say the same about other teams but well Liquid got this far for a reason.

To be fair though, that's an insane achievement for winning a TI. Just by drafting better than anyone else.

draft kotl = win games
draft huskar = also win games

Liquid lost every game in which they had kotol today.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 12 2017 21:17 GMT
#1507
On August 13 2017 06:15 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 06:14 Wintex wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:13 BlazingGlory wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
That said i think Super has cemented his legacy as the best TI performer to not win a TI.


Kuro will have 2 lost finals is Liquid loses this.

depending on who u ask, kuro was a defining factor why natus vincere lost vs alliance.
fuk ye xboct

They should try a TI3 reunion of Na'Vi but I don't think PPY/Kuro would get along.

Maybe they'll make Dendi captain/draft because of it rofl.

puppey and kuro have a long bromance, kuro just wanted to lead his own team at some point.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
August 12 2017 21:17 GMT
#1508
Man TI1 seems like such a joke nowadays with these bugs hahaha. Didn't some good teams not even believe it was rel and not go?
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 12 2017 21:17 GMT
#1509
On August 13 2017 06:14 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 06:13 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:09 intotheheart wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:08 Kuroeeah wrote:
i'm surprised majority of the LR is actually backing Liquid to wi... Looks at the site i'm on..nvm

LiquidBias bruh.

Plus winning TI is a safe way to remove Miracle and GH from the scene.

Wait how? Miracle and GH were playing pretty well. You don't get those sorts of wins over LFY by having 3v5...

i'm sure i'm going to get shit for making this comment but liquid throughout the entire tournament looked very one note. Their games are predicated on whether or not they get their draft and if one key player like Miracle or GH doesn't get their comfort hero, they actually lose their games horrendously.

I'm ready to eat my words here but honestly you can tell whether Liquid wins throughout this entire tournament just from draft alone. Can't say the same about other teams but well Liquid got this far for a reason.

To be fair though, that's an insane achievement for winning a TI. Just by drafting better than anyone else.

I mean, I honestly think most if not every TI winner (i have to think back on this) just wins through smart drafts. IG, Alliance, Newbee, EG. I never watched Na'Vi and I don't even know if I can really count their TI victory and Wing's is pretttttttty debatable.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
August 12 2017 21:17 GMT
#1510
i know the game is over but i just remember OD is good against morph. i guess even liquid forgot about it
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 12 2017 21:17 GMT
#1511
On August 13 2017 06:16 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 06:15 intotheheart wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:14 Wintex wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:13 BlazingGlory wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
That said i think Super has cemented his legacy as the best TI performer to not win a TI.


Kuro will have 2 lost finals is Liquid loses this.

depending on who u ask, kuro was a defining factor why natus vincere lost vs alliance.
fuk ye xboct

They should try a TI3 reunion of Na'Vi but I don't think PPY/Kuro would get along.

Maybe they'll make Dendi captain/draft because of it rofl.

TI3 version of Navi would not last a day, they are not exactly on good terms with each other at this point, Dendi+anyone relationship aside.

TI3 Na'Vi vs. C9. Open mic streams of both teams.

10/10 would watch.
kiss kiss fall in love
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 12 2017 21:17 GMT
#1512
Oh they were actually told before the game about the Gem bug.

I thought they only found out in the M5 game.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
August 12 2017 21:17 GMT
#1513
On August 13 2017 06:17 Procake wrote:
Man TI1 seems like such a joke nowadays with these bugs hahaha. Didn't some good teams not even believe it was rel and not go?

Yeah some of the Chinese teams thought it was a scam because Valve was virtually unknown over there and the prize money was such a jump from what they were used to.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 12 2017 21:17 GMT
#1514
well after that tasteless series...

now this is what makes me happy. oh man TI1 ahaha, that music while we wait for the stream...
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 12 2017 21:18 GMT
#1515
On August 13 2017 06:17 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 06:14 intotheheart wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:13 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:09 intotheheart wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:08 Kuroeeah wrote:
i'm surprised majority of the LR is actually backing Liquid to wi... Looks at the site i'm on..nvm

LiquidBias bruh.

Plus winning TI is a safe way to remove Miracle and GH from the scene.

Wait how? Miracle and GH were playing pretty well. You don't get those sorts of wins over LFY by having 3v5...

i'm sure i'm going to get shit for making this comment but liquid throughout the entire tournament looked very one note. Their games are predicated on whether or not they get their draft and if one key player like Miracle or GH doesn't get their comfort hero, they actually lose their games horrendously.

I'm ready to eat my words here but honestly you can tell whether Liquid wins throughout this entire tournament just from draft alone. Can't say the same about other teams but well Liquid got this far for a reason.

To be fair though, that's an insane achievement for winning a TI. Just by drafting better than anyone else.

I mean, I honestly think most if not every TI winner (i have to think back on this) just wins through smart drafts. IG, Alliance, Newbee, EG. I never watched Na'Vi and I don't even know if I can really count their TI victory and Wing's is pretttttttty debatable.

Wings was partially execution partially draft for sure.
kiss kiss fall in love
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 12 2017 21:18 GMT
#1516
On August 13 2017 06:13 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 06:09 intotheheart wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 13 2017 06:08 Kuroeeah wrote:
i'm surprised majority of the LR is actually backing Liquid to wi... Looks at the site i'm on..nvm

LiquidBias bruh.

Plus winning TI is a safe way to remove Miracle and GH from the scene.

Wait how? Miracle and GH were playing pretty well. You don't get those sorts of wins over LFY by having 3v5...

i'm sure i'm going to get shit for making this comment but liquid throughout the entire tournament looked very one note. Their games are predicated on whether or not they get their draft and if one key player like Miracle or GH doesn't get their comfort hero, they actually lose their games horrendously.

I'm ready to eat my words here but honestly you can tell whether Liquid wins throughout this entire tournament just from draft alone. Can't say the same about other teams but well Liquid got this far for a reason.


Liquid's strength revolves their draft so its understandable.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 12 2017 21:18 GMT
#1517
im loving this segment
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 12 2017 21:18 GMT
#1518
On August 13 2017 06:14 Kishin2 wrote:
Thank god for Tobi + Synd for the Grand Finals. Really hope LD doesn't get Lumi again next year.

I am sad that he actually will get Lumi again, LD started casting because of Lumi afaik. They were good friends even before and are considered standard casting duo like Synd and Tobi, even though LD can go with almost any analytical caster and Lumi doesn't mash with anyone, since he shouldn't be considered caster.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 12 2017 21:18 GMT
#1519
rofl jimmy flaming dota to gaben
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 12 2017 21:18 GMT
#1520
On August 13 2017 06:18 icystorage wrote:
im loving this segment

The segment about Fountain Hooking from last year was the best one by far.
EZ4ENCE
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