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bigbadchen
Profile Joined July 2017
53 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#421
its legit strategy. whats stopping chinese to do the same thing?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#422
Get ready for next match to have brood, husjar, dazzle, as warden, and meepo
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#423
Liquid is pretty much the new Alliance with their rat game.
Getting too old for this..
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#424
Aghs for Lone Druid is pretty dumb, honestly. The hero is all about the risk/balance of managing the bear, offset by the early game strength, mid-game health pool and massive building damage.

And then Aghs makes it a low-risk, low-commitment, higher-than-an-entire-team base killer.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#425
On August 13 2017 03:54 bigbadchen wrote:
its legit strategy. whats stopping chinese to do the same thing?

Self respect
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#426
On August 13 2017 03:53 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:53 Zea! wrote:
wtf, is Monet a midget?

He's only 17. I'm actually surprised he's here at all considering he was one of the players with visa issues at the Boston Major.

Now that you mention it, that's kinda odd, yeah. I wonder what changed between now, and then.
kiss kiss fall in love
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#427
On August 13 2017 03:51 Eleonora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 13 2017 03:48 Eleonora wrote:
So where are the comments about that disgusting draft from Liquid ? I see people here flaming Liquid when they draft Huskar / Dazzle + Brood, because somehow that's too cheesy (what that even means in DotA ?), yet such anti-, game-insulting, way of playing gets a pass ?

This is not DotA, this is pathetic.

That was hardly a disgusting draft by liquid, it was their typical kotol first aghs day push timing that went wrong in early game so they resorted to ratting it. Now Brood+Veno+Huskar/Dazzle is brrrr


So let's say it's not the draft but the strategy they resorted to after losing early so badly.

Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On August 13 2017 03:48 Eleonora wrote:
So where are the comments about that disgusting draft from Liquid ? I see people here flaming Liquid when they draft Huskar / Dazzle + Brood, because somehow that's too cheesy (what that even means in DotA ?), yet such anti-, game-insulting, way of playing gets a pass ?

This is not DotA, this is pathetic.

Huh? Lots of people are saying "cancer cured" or whatever.


Lot is not enough, should be everybody.


Piss off plz. I like a good rat comeback. I love positional, strategic, nailbiting games. And you have zero right to tell people how they should feel about and react to stuff.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#428
On August 13 2017 03:54 bigbadchen wrote:
its legit strategy. whats stopping chinese to do the same thing?

it's not part of their 3 strat programming for this occasion
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#429
On August 13 2017 03:54 bigbadchen wrote:
its legit strategy. whats stopping chinese to do the same thing?


Nothing except for potential lack of practice/preference. Switching it up this late at TI is hard.
Eleonora
Profile Joined April 2017
29 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#430
On August 13 2017 03:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:51 Eleonora wrote:
On August 13 2017 03:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 13 2017 03:48 Eleonora wrote:
So where are the comments about that disgusting draft from Liquid ? I see people here flaming Liquid when they draft Huskar / Dazzle + Brood, because somehow that's too cheesy (what that even means in DotA ?), yet such anti-, game-insulting, way of playing gets a pass ?

This is not DotA, this is pathetic.

That was hardly a disgusting draft by liquid, it was their typical kotol first aghs day push timing that went wrong in early game so they resorted to ratting it. Now Brood+Veno+Huskar/Dazzle is brrrr


So let's say it's not the draft but the strategy they resorted to after losing early so badly.

On August 13 2017 03:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On August 13 2017 03:48 Eleonora wrote:
So where are the comments about that disgusting draft from Liquid ? I see people here flaming Liquid when they draft Huskar / Dazzle + Brood, because somehow that's too cheesy (what that even means in DotA ?), yet such anti-, game-insulting, way of playing gets a pass ?

This is not DotA, this is pathetic.

Huh? Lots of people are saying "cancer cured" or whatever.


Lot is not enough, should be everybody.

There is nothing cancerous about ratting. Hell, if not for ratting this game would be pretty boring. Now try and find fun in match with Brood+Huskar+Dazzle.


I don't have any problem with ratting being a part of the game overall, but this risk-free Agha bear strategy is far beyond what should be allowed in this game (imo). Any other hero than sniper (that wouldn't have been able to chip the last tower) and the game can last 80 min.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#431
I do agree that split-push "rat dota" is a viable strategy if you really can't take a real fight against the other team. It also often leads to the most exciting "base race" game endings (not here but other times).
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#432
He is really bad at eye contact
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 12 2017 18:56 GMT
#433
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.
secret - never again
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-12 18:56:49
August 12 2017 18:56 GMT
#434
On August 13 2017 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote:
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.

But Miracle didn't get Invoker. :O
kiss kiss fall in love
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 12 2017 18:56 GMT
#435
On August 13 2017 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote:
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.

Bloodseeker and MC earthshaker is not what i'd call their best heroes ya know.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#436
On August 13 2017 03:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote:
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.

Bloodseeker and MC earthshaker is not what i'd call their best heroes ya know.

MC's a decent Earthshaker, no? Like it's not a signature hero for him, but it's not like he can't do well with it.
kiss kiss fall in love
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#437
You play to win , all the rest is bullshit , their entire grown lives could be changed from being a 24 yo gamer to a multimillionaire gamer + the prestige to win TI and you think they are going to play the way some kids in a forum wants them to play ? if you hate how they play dont buy their merchandise but expect them to play some 5 man davai dota when they are behind with double midas waiting to kick in is beyond dumb , PLAY TO WIN !!!
That said LFY are an amazing team and that ES plays were unreal liquid needs to ban that hero.
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#438
On August 13 2017 03:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote:
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.

Bloodseeker and MC earthshaker is not what i'd call their best heroes ya know.


Seconded.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#439
On August 13 2017 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote:
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.

ezwin lfy 2 fly 4 them
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#440
On August 13 2017 03:57 bluzi wrote:
You play to win , all the rest is bullshit , their entire grown lives could be changed from being a 24 yo gamer to a multimillionaire gamer + the prestige to win TI and you think they are going to play the way some kids in a forum wants them to play ? if you hate how they play dont buy their merchandise but expect them to play some 5 man davai dota when they are behind with double midas waiting to kick in is beyond dumb , PLAY TO WIN !!!
That said LFY are an amazing team and that ES plays were unreal liquid needs to ban that hero.

Yeah they play to win, but it doesn't mean we have to enjoy watching it.
kiss kiss fall in love
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