• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:14
CEST 13:14
KST 20:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On6Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)44$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 150Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada10Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR12BSL Season 217
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update Had to smile :) Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR
Tourneys
Stellar Fest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
Flash On JaeDongs ASL Struggles & Perseverance ASL20 General Discussion Thoughts on rarely used units Any rep analyzer that shows resources situation? Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 3D!Community Brood War Super Cup №3 BSL Team Wars - Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
[AI] Sorry, Chill, My Bad :…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1994 users

[The International 7] Main Event - Championship Saturday -…

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 156 Next
bigbadchen
Profile Joined July 2017
53 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#421
its legit strategy. whats stopping chinese to do the same thing?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#422
Get ready for next match to have brood, husjar, dazzle, as warden, and meepo
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#423
Liquid is pretty much the new Alliance with their rat game.
Getting too old for this..
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#424
Aghs for Lone Druid is pretty dumb, honestly. The hero is all about the risk/balance of managing the bear, offset by the early game strength, mid-game health pool and massive building damage.

And then Aghs makes it a low-risk, low-commitment, higher-than-an-entire-team base killer.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#425
On August 13 2017 03:54 bigbadchen wrote:
its legit strategy. whats stopping chinese to do the same thing?

Self respect
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 12 2017 18:54 GMT
#426
On August 13 2017 03:53 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:53 Zea! wrote:
wtf, is Monet a midget?

He's only 17. I'm actually surprised he's here at all considering he was one of the players with visa issues at the Boston Major.

Now that you mention it, that's kinda odd, yeah. I wonder what changed between now, and then.
kiss kiss fall in love
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#427
On August 13 2017 03:51 Eleonora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 13 2017 03:48 Eleonora wrote:
So where are the comments about that disgusting draft from Liquid ? I see people here flaming Liquid when they draft Huskar / Dazzle + Brood, because somehow that's too cheesy (what that even means in DotA ?), yet such anti-, game-insulting, way of playing gets a pass ?

This is not DotA, this is pathetic.

That was hardly a disgusting draft by liquid, it was their typical kotol first aghs day push timing that went wrong in early game so they resorted to ratting it. Now Brood+Veno+Huskar/Dazzle is brrrr


So let's say it's not the draft but the strategy they resorted to after losing early so badly.

Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On August 13 2017 03:48 Eleonora wrote:
So where are the comments about that disgusting draft from Liquid ? I see people here flaming Liquid when they draft Huskar / Dazzle + Brood, because somehow that's too cheesy (what that even means in DotA ?), yet such anti-, game-insulting, way of playing gets a pass ?

This is not DotA, this is pathetic.

Huh? Lots of people are saying "cancer cured" or whatever.


Lot is not enough, should be everybody.


Piss off plz. I like a good rat comeback. I love positional, strategic, nailbiting games. And you have zero right to tell people how they should feel about and react to stuff.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#428
On August 13 2017 03:54 bigbadchen wrote:
its legit strategy. whats stopping chinese to do the same thing?

it's not part of their 3 strat programming for this occasion
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#429
On August 13 2017 03:54 bigbadchen wrote:
its legit strategy. whats stopping chinese to do the same thing?


Nothing except for potential lack of practice/preference. Switching it up this late at TI is hard.
Eleonora
Profile Joined April 2017
29 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#430
On August 13 2017 03:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:51 Eleonora wrote:
On August 13 2017 03:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 13 2017 03:48 Eleonora wrote:
So where are the comments about that disgusting draft from Liquid ? I see people here flaming Liquid when they draft Huskar / Dazzle + Brood, because somehow that's too cheesy (what that even means in DotA ?), yet such anti-, game-insulting, way of playing gets a pass ?

This is not DotA, this is pathetic.

That was hardly a disgusting draft by liquid, it was their typical kotol first aghs day push timing that went wrong in early game so they resorted to ratting it. Now Brood+Veno+Huskar/Dazzle is brrrr


So let's say it's not the draft but the strategy they resorted to after losing early so badly.

On August 13 2017 03:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On August 13 2017 03:48 Eleonora wrote:
So where are the comments about that disgusting draft from Liquid ? I see people here flaming Liquid when they draft Huskar / Dazzle + Brood, because somehow that's too cheesy (what that even means in DotA ?), yet such anti-, game-insulting, way of playing gets a pass ?

This is not DotA, this is pathetic.

Huh? Lots of people are saying "cancer cured" or whatever.


Lot is not enough, should be everybody.

There is nothing cancerous about ratting. Hell, if not for ratting this game would be pretty boring. Now try and find fun in match with Brood+Huskar+Dazzle.


I don't have any problem with ratting being a part of the game overall, but this risk-free Agha bear strategy is far beyond what should be allowed in this game (imo). Any other hero than sniper (that wouldn't have been able to chip the last tower) and the game can last 80 min.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#431
I do agree that split-push "rat dota" is a viable strategy if you really can't take a real fight against the other team. It also often leads to the most exciting "base race" game endings (not here but other times).
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
August 12 2017 18:55 GMT
#432
He is really bad at eye contact
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 12 2017 18:56 GMT
#433
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.
secret - never again
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-12 18:56:49
August 12 2017 18:56 GMT
#434
On August 13 2017 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote:
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.

But Miracle didn't get Invoker. :O
kiss kiss fall in love
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 12 2017 18:56 GMT
#435
On August 13 2017 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote:
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.

Bloodseeker and MC earthshaker is not what i'd call their best heroes ya know.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#436
On August 13 2017 03:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote:
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.

Bloodseeker and MC earthshaker is not what i'd call their best heroes ya know.

MC's a decent Earthshaker, no? Like it's not a signature hero for him, but it's not like he can't do well with it.
kiss kiss fall in love
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#437
You play to win , all the rest is bullshit , their entire grown lives could be changed from being a 24 yo gamer to a multimillionaire gamer + the prestige to win TI and you think they are going to play the way some kids in a forum wants them to play ? if you hate how they play dont buy their merchandise but expect them to play some 5 man davai dota when they are behind with double midas waiting to kick in is beyond dumb , PLAY TO WIN !!!
That said LFY are an amazing team and that ES plays were unreal liquid needs to ban that hero.
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#438
On August 13 2017 03:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote:
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.

Bloodseeker and MC earthshaker is not what i'd call their best heroes ya know.


Seconded.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#439
On August 13 2017 03:56 ch33psh33p wrote:
Liquid got all their best heroes

And got stomped into the ground

As predicted.

ezwin lfy 2 fly 4 them
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#440
On August 13 2017 03:57 bluzi wrote:
You play to win , all the rest is bullshit , their entire grown lives could be changed from being a 24 yo gamer to a multimillionaire gamer + the prestige to win TI and you think they are going to play the way some kids in a forum wants them to play ? if you hate how they play dont buy their merchandise but expect them to play some 5 man davai dota when they are behind with double midas waiting to kick in is beyond dumb , PLAY TO WIN !!!
That said LFY are an amazing team and that ES plays were unreal liquid needs to ban that hero.

Yeah they play to win, but it doesn't mean we have to enjoy watching it.
kiss kiss fall in love
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 156 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Map Test Tournament
11:00
QUALIFIER WardiTV TLMC
WardiTV131
IndyStarCraft 47
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 65
CranKy Ducklings49
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech81
Codebar 64
IndyStarCraft 47
UpATreeSC 45
ForJumy 36
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 18850
Sea 3283
Bisu 1155
Mini 1146
Jaedong 971
Flash 685
Snow 423
Stork 394
Hyun 316
actioN 311
[ Show more ]
ZerO 273
firebathero 271
Leta 262
sSak 234
Soma 170
Mong 154
EffOrt 128
Light 125
Last 121
ToSsGirL 65
Liquid`Ret 54
Larva 36
Sharp 35
soO 33
Terrorterran 14
Sacsri 14
Noble 13
Shine 13
Icarus 13
yabsab 12
HiyA 10
scan(afreeca) 10
Movie 8
sorry 4
Dota 2
Cr1tdota999
boxi98350
XcaliburYe328
BananaSlamJamma213
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2007
shoxiejesuss775
x6flipin463
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King79
Westballz27
Other Games
singsing2344
DeMusliM284
B2W.Neo267
crisheroes238
XaKoH 208
mouzStarbuck144
Pyrionflax143
NeuroSwarm103
rGuardiaN49
ArmadaUGS23
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1160
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 39
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV285
Upcoming Events
Online Event
11h 46m
Wardi Open
23h 46m
Online Event
1d 5h
Online Event
1d 23h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
Safe House 2
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
Dewalt vs kogeT
JDConan vs Tarson
RaNgeD vs DragOn
StRyKeR vs Bonyth
Aeternum vs Hejek
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-25
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.