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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 09 2017 04:21 GMT
#1781
I feel it's incredibly dumb to point all the blame on 1 player. Does it take Cr1t to hop to the other team next year and perform better than EG to make you realise how dumb you guys are
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
August 09 2017 04:22 GMT
#1782
On August 09 2017 13:11 Moobutt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 13:07 mycro wrote:
On August 09 2017 13:05 Papercappu wrote:
On August 09 2017 13:03 mycro wrote:
On August 09 2017 13:01 Papercappu wrote:
arteezy is not going anywhere,he own a part of EG. if anyones getting the boot its probably going to be cr1t


Huh?? Source please (that Arteezy is part owner of EG).

sumail,fear,universe & zai also own a part of the team


Again, source please.

http://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/18262358/2016-evil-geniuses-alliance-leave-parent-company-goodgame


Doesn't actually state which players are owners. Just because it says player owned doesn't mean its all the players. I could be wrong though.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 09 2017 04:22 GMT
#1783
On August 09 2017 13:21 babysimba wrote:
I feel it's incredibly dumb to point all the blame on 1 player. Does it take Cr1t to hop to the other team next year and perform better than EG to make you realise how dumb you guys are

i hope he does
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Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 04:24:14
August 09 2017 04:23 GMT
#1784
On August 09 2017 13:22 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 13:21 babysimba wrote:
I feel it's incredibly dumb to point all the blame on 1 player. Does it take Cr1t to hop to the other team next year and perform better than EG to make you realise how dumb you guys are

i hope he does


Did it take Arteezy to hop on another team then EG wins TI5 without him

Oh yeah, forgot he left EG last year and EG got third place as well.
Getting too old for this..
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 09 2017 04:23 GMT
#1785
On August 09 2017 13:20 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 13:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:
While that feels real fucking bad watching EG lose to fucking Empire. The nice part of being a MN Vikings fan is I know pain and disappointment so well that I'm already over it.

Whats it like to achieve that status of jaded?


It's pretty good honestly. It's a fantastic life skill. To know pain so well that it rolls off your back very quickly with no effort. I'm sure the Vikings will never win the Superbowl but my boys won TI5. I'm happy with that.
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 09 2017 04:24 GMT
#1786
EG CEO yesterday with regards to lower bracket " I love it. Time to see some heart breaks"

So yeaa.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 09 2017 04:24 GMT
#1787
I just want a technical analysis of the PL pick and what it was going to accomplish
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wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
August 09 2017 04:27 GMT
#1788
Obviously not all the blame is on one guy. I believe Arteezy is incapable of ever winning TI. Everyone on EG was underwhelming. You would have never thought that Sumail was anything special looking at his games these last 2 days.

That being said, when you are the "captain" or pseudo-captain, and your teams have gone 1-4 and 0-4 on TI main stage, its pretty fucking bad.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 09 2017 04:27 GMT
#1789
On August 09 2017 13:23 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 13:20 Emnjay808 wrote:
On August 09 2017 13:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:
While that feels real fucking bad watching EG lose to fucking Empire. The nice part of being a MN Vikings fan is I know pain and disappointment so well that I'm already over it.

Whats it like to achieve that status of jaded?


It's pretty good honestly. It's a fantastic life skill. To know pain so well that it rolls off your back very quickly with no effort. I'm sure the Vikings will never win the Superbowl but my boys won TI5. I'm happy with that.

at least you're not a browns fan
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Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
August 09 2017 04:28 GMT
#1790
excited for Q god vs Faith god tommorow. two of the best drafters in the world
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 04:29:39
August 09 2017 04:29 GMT
#1791
cr1t is probably going to be kicked, but let's be real: he was brought to EG because he was the nice guy, the anti-PPD. I don't see how he turns himself into a strong leader when the reason he's there in the first place is because he fits what the other players want. Hard to see how he develops the necessary authority in that environment.
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
August 09 2017 04:29 GMT
#1792
I for one see that while Arteezy is not performing like a god carry, he's still doing what he's supposed to do most of the time - farm well. His improvement is in less mechanical things like decisionmaking in fights (he rarely goes all in for instance while on Lycan shapeshift which is kinda bad IMO since that's your strength), and more importantly that star sense to evade ganks (he has to be one of the easiest to gank carries nowadays).

Still, I would take him over Fear. Even TI5 Fear. You still really need that core position to be mechanically stellar.

I want a SADBOYS reunion. Not because I hate Crit in EG, I just think that they worked so well with PPD that it would be a shame to waste Sumail, Zai, and Artour's prime trying to adjust to a newbie captain. Crit can shine elsewhere. He can even be a better captain than Peter down the line. Just not now.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
August 09 2017 04:30 GMT
#1793
On August 09 2017 13:28 Kamisamanachi wrote:
excited for Q god vs Faith god tommorow. two of the best drafters in the world


Faith gonna get creamed.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 09 2017 04:31 GMT
#1794
On August 09 2017 13:27 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 13:23 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On August 09 2017 13:20 Emnjay808 wrote:
On August 09 2017 13:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:
While that feels real fucking bad watching EG lose to fucking Empire. The nice part of being a MN Vikings fan is I know pain and disappointment so well that I'm already over it.

Whats it like to achieve that status of jaded?


It's pretty good honestly. It's a fantastic life skill. To know pain so well that it rolls off your back very quickly with no effort. I'm sure the Vikings will never win the Superbowl but my boys won TI5. I'm happy with that.

at least you're not a browns fan


The Browns are always just pure garbage though. The Vikings have flashes of greatness and crash and burn every time. That makes it so much worse! Gary Anderson's missed field goal in 1998 when we were 15-1, literally the ONLY kick he missed the entire year. 12 men on the field. They take you to the edge of the promised land and then stab you in the gut and let you bleed out on the edge of that hill.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 04:32:29
August 09 2017 04:32 GMT
#1795
What if EG minus Crit just moved to Secret with Puppey.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 09 2017 04:33 GMT
#1796
On August 09 2017 13:32 Kishin2 wrote:
What if EG minus Crit just moved to Secret with Puppey.

they would probably win 6 straight internationals. I imagine valve would veto the team formation because it would be unfair
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Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
August 09 2017 04:35 GMT
#1797
On August 09 2017 13:30 Caladbolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 13:28 Kamisamanachi wrote:
excited for Q god vs Faith god tommorow. two of the best drafters in the world


Faith gonna get creamed.


haha. i also think the same. Q is just soo clutch
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
jojos11
Profile Joined March 2014
Korea (North)314 Posts
August 09 2017 04:38 GMT
#1798
What if puppey actually trained empire to beat EG. all according to keikaku
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 04:49:13
August 09 2017 04:41 GMT
#1799
lol EG.Puppey for crit would be the most mind-blowing roster change

here's a hot take boys: rtz to cloud9

[edit] btw to all the cr1t haters, if you watch the rtz interview with kaci (i'm doing it just now cause i missed it the first time), the way he captains (which I assume follows to drafts) is that all the other players okay the ideas.

If cr1t drafted WW twice, the team must have thought it was reasonable, likewise with the PL.

I sort of agree that ingame shotcalling with this kind of team dynamic can be really bad, especially if your team gets timid like EG felt against Empire today.
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
August 09 2017 04:43 GMT
#1800
On August 09 2017 13:38 jojos11 wrote:
What if puppey actually trained empire to beat EG. all according to keikaku

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