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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 07 2017 18:19 GMT
#561
Kuroky usually always bans out Nightstalker. Why do you think Liquid didn't ban it? They could have picked Kotl if Nightstalker was banned.
Don't mind me
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
August 07 2017 18:19 GMT
#562
Guys dont forget this is a bo3 XD
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 07 2017 18:19 GMT
#563
boboka is killing me with his chat wheel use
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 07 2017 18:19 GMT
#564
Alch knew enemies are incoming and gave zero fucks.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 07 2017 18:19 GMT
#565
Are we really saying group B was harder? Just a few days ago it was generally agreed group A was pretty tough with almost all tied games.
Getting too old for this..
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12095 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-07 18:20:11
August 07 2017 18:19 GMT
#566
On August 08 2017 03:16 CA Infraction wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2017 03:13 Yurie wrote:
On August 08 2017 03:10 Danzo wrote:
On August 08 2017 03:08 CA Infraction wrote:
On August 08 2017 03:07 Kishin2 wrote:
Did everyone underestimate iG or overestimate Liquid?

Like almost every TI western teams seem to get overrated compared to chinese teams. Happens almost every year it seems like


It's been like that for the past 3, except for EG. Underdog teams seem to have some kinda TI magic as well. Expect an infamous upset.


Western teams keep winning tournaments before TI. So people base predictions on past results. Then China keeps performing much better than the rest of the year leading up to it would predict.

I mean that is part of it also but I think people just do a bad judge of removing bias from their evaluations of the teams. It happens literally every year. You would think people would learn to stop sleeping on the chinese scene has hard as they do

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Predictions before the tournament based on previous stats available. They do not reflect what happened in the group stage, China performing better than expected in some cases. Or in the case of C9 underperforming by a lot.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
August 07 2017 18:19 GMT
#567
On August 08 2017 03:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On August 08 2017 03:14 its_a_me wrote:
what a draft lose

Not saying you are wrong by any means (especially because i lack the knowledge) but tbh this is almost said about every dota2 game ever. At least i see it each year at TI, people commenting it was the draft and how bad it was


This one's actually quite bad though. Huge disconnect between what these Liquid heroes want to do and none of them can actually get anything get done on the map unless they completely stomp the lanes. Definitely also an outplay though, iG played this flawlessly.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 07 2017 18:20 GMT
#568
On August 08 2017 03:19 Danzo wrote:
Are we really saying group B was harder? Just a few days ago it was generally agreed group A was pretty tough with almost all tied games.

iG (and everyone else in group B) got dumpstered pretty badly by LFY and looked shaky vs. everyone else, if they crush Liquid two games in a row like this it's pretty scary
rip
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
August 07 2017 18:20 GMT
#569
On August 08 2017 03:18 plasmidghost wrote:
They had no real counter for the Alch but the gank trio from iG is the reason why they're so far ahead

boboka is the problem
6nnn
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
August 07 2017 18:21 GMT
#570
Support visage feels like such a liability. If his team doesn't get ahead early he really doesn't offer much at all
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 07 2017 18:21 GMT
#571
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its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
August 07 2017 18:22 GMT
#572
On August 08 2017 03:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2017 03:14 its_a_me wrote:
what a draft lose

Not saying you are wrong by any means (especially because i lack the knowledge) but tbh this is almost said about every dota2 game ever. At least i see it each year at TI, people commenting it was the draft and how bad it was


yeah in this game it was outdrafted and outplayed, alchemist free farm and then spliting up wenn IGs Heros came online were also huge mistakes.
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
August 07 2017 18:22 GMT
#573
lvl 20 invoker with meteor barely scratching alche with perfect setup ... ouch
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 07 2017 18:22 GMT
#574
give the TI crowd what they want and move EG's series up
ffxiv enjoyer
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 07 2017 18:22 GMT
#575
Awesome start
Neosteel Enthusiast
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
August 07 2017 18:22 GMT
#576
ROTK COACH DRAFT
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 07 2017 18:22 GMT
#577
Damn what a crushing blow
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 07 2017 18:22 GMT
#578
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
August 07 2017 18:22 GMT
#579
oh god is alch back
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-07 18:23:22
August 07 2017 18:23 GMT
#580
impressive from IG, literally first series but my bracket already look bleak lol
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