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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 23:20:41
August 13 2016 23:20 GMT
#2361
Ogre seems pretty ass vs. Storm. You're tanky but you can't hit him with any spells
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 13 2016 23:20 GMT
#2362
Tiny and Io
Elemental Adventure
A rock and a ball
Best friends forever
Great global presence
And balls so blue
You're the tree to my tango
And I love you

Please
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 13 2016 23:20 GMT
#2363
AM so good here right?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 13 2016 23:20 GMT
#2364
SILENCER
The Real Power~
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 13 2016 23:20 GMT
#2365
Silencer woo.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2366
CLASSIC WINGS
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2367
On August 14 2016 08:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:19 plasmidghost wrote:
AM pick incoming? Can Reso play it?

Of course he can, he is a god after all. But not sure kotol AM can work well in laning.

You make offlaner's life miserable with no mana
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2368
instant silencer o-o
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2369
well not with void

and HAHAHAHA wtf wings
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2370
On August 14 2016 08:18 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:13 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:10 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:08 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:58 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:53 CA Infraction wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:48 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:47 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:45 superstartran wrote:
[quote]


He actually was entitled to the spot, the invite was for the 5 players, his invitation cannot be revoked. The substitute rule was put into place recently to rectify the situation, but at the time the only fair thing to do was to let Era play since fnatic qualified based on their results with Era not xcalibur.


the thing is, fnatic hat a legitimate reason to not play with era. was just shitty ruling by valve to stick to their rules without understanding what they are for.



rules are the rules though, at the time if valve made an exception then you'd have all sorts of teams trying to look to stealth kick players and pick up last minute additions or poaching players from other teams


they already made an exception for fear.


on topic: well they finally got a dc video together!

Fear wasn't trying to play though was he? IIRC fear had basically accepted he couldn't play. Era on the hand wanted to play with his team. If fear actually wanted to play for eg Valve would have forced eg to let him play as well.


no but there was no rule how to handle replacements. for all we know they could have not invited eg because mason was not on the invite list.
in the end rules are there for a reason though and dont stand on its own. the roster stability rule is to protect the players (all of them) and with valves terrible ruling on this they killed chances of the team (because no way they would perform after that) and destroyed eras career (because no way any decent team would take him after this). valves ruling did the opposite of what it was supposed to do, it did not protect anyone but harmed everyone involved. happens when you do rules without reason.




that is actually incredibly false.


eg had played enough tournaments with mason to still qualify with him as their 5th.

xcalibur and fnatic had not played enough, therefore that's why the decision was made


i didnt know there was a threshold of tournaments you need to play. lmao
but you didnt even get my point, my point is that valve destroyed the career of the very player their rule should have protected. was stupid, valve learned by introducing substitutes for the next ti. sometimes they just need someone with half a brain to go over their selfrightous rulings.


There actually is, you have to play a certain amount of tournaments and win and have a track record of being a stable team.


With the way the rules were setup they had no choice but to enforce them as is, because if you started making exceptions then you have people who were going to start having extremely wealthy organizations like EHOME/iG/LGD/EG/etc. trying to poach the best players last minute.


nope, you just made this shit up. there was no threshhold, just stop making shit up please.

they could have easily said that fnatic had a good case to not play with era because era was sick for months and months. it wasnt a stealth kick, fnatic played with the player they played most of the tournaments before ti and bootcamped with excalibur. in fact era didnt play any tournament for a long time there because he couldnt leave his home due to his condition.
valve could have just ruled that the 4 other players case is stronger than eras and it could not be abused at all. would just have protected era like they should have done, but they didnt and throw him under the bus. good guys valve.


Exactly. Eg played enough tournaments with mason. But Fnatic played enough tournaments without era. And it wasn't even fnatic's fault that era couldn't join.
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 23:22:23
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2371
On August 14 2016 08:18 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:13 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:10 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:08 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:58 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:53 CA Infraction wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:48 superstartran wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:47 hfglgg wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:45 superstartran wrote:
[quote]


He actually was entitled to the spot, the invite was for the 5 players, his invitation cannot be revoked. The substitute rule was put into place recently to rectify the situation, but at the time the only fair thing to do was to let Era play since fnatic qualified based on their results with Era not xcalibur.


the thing is, fnatic hat a legitimate reason to not play with era. was just shitty ruling by valve to stick to their rules without understanding what they are for.



rules are the rules though, at the time if valve made an exception then you'd have all sorts of teams trying to look to stealth kick players and pick up last minute additions or poaching players from other teams


they already made an exception for fear.


on topic: well they finally got a dc video together!

Fear wasn't trying to play though was he? IIRC fear had basically accepted he couldn't play. Era on the hand wanted to play with his team. If fear actually wanted to play for eg Valve would have forced eg to let him play as well.


no but there was no rule how to handle replacements. for all we know they could have not invited eg because mason was not on the invite list.
in the end rules are there for a reason though and dont stand on its own. the roster stability rule is to protect the players (all of them) and with valves terrible ruling on this they killed chances of the team (because no way they would perform after that) and destroyed eras career (because no way any decent team would take him after this). valves ruling did the opposite of what it was supposed to do, it did not protect anyone but harmed everyone involved. happens when you do rules without reason.




that is actually incredibly false.


eg had played enough tournaments with mason to still qualify with him as their 5th.

xcalibur and fnatic had not played enough, therefore that's why the decision was made


i didnt know there was a threshold of tournaments you need to play. lmao
but you didnt even get my point, my point is that valve destroyed the career of the very player their rule should have protected. was stupid, valve learned by introducing substitutes for the next ti. sometimes they just need someone with half a brain to go over their selfrightous rulings.


There actually is, you have to play a certain amount of tournaments and win and have a track record of being a stable team.


With the way the rules were setup they had no choice but to enforce them as is, because if you started making exceptions then you have people who were going to start having extremely wealthy organizations like EHOME/iG/LGD/EG/etc. trying to poach the best players last minute.


nope, you just made this shit up. there was no threshhold, just stop making shit up please.

they could have easily said that fnatic had a good case to not play with era because era was sick for months and months. it wasnt a stealth kick, fnatic played with the player they played most of the tournaments before ti and bootcamped with excalibur. in fact era didnt play any tournament for a long time there because he couldnt leave his home due to his condition.
valve could have just ruled that the 4 other players case is stronger than eras and it could not be abused at all. would just have protected era like they should have done, but they didnt and throw him under the bus. good guys valve.



There actually is a threshold amount of tournaments you have to play (it is variable), you have to show a track record of stability. The number of tournaments you play is accounted for. A team that was just created 2 months pre-TI and shows decent results is not going to get a direct invite, especially with only 6 invites now.

Good job at showing your ignorance of the rules.


No they didn't, xcalibur was standing in after invites were sent. It was too late at that point. Both of you are wrong, stfu and watch the tournament.
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2372
ban sven pick meepo
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2373
wings playing such crazy dota
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2374
I don't understand what wings line-up is supposed to do
EZ4ENCE
MCWhiteHaze
Profile Joined April 2012
United States155 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2375
im really bummed EG and OG aren't in grand finals...So i'm rooting for DC. BEcause i don't want chinese champs.

Please win DC
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2376
KotL wrecks Silencer in lane, right?
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
hydrogg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States377 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2377
This draft is crazy
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2378
The execution of Wings has been insanely good, i want perfection from this last series of TI!!!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2379
On August 14 2016 08:17 Bommes wrote:
The drums are mixed in way too loud imo

At least now we know how it feels to be a rowing slave on a ancient roman ship
Neosteel Enthusiast
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#2380
On August 14 2016 08:21 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:19 plasmidghost wrote:
AM pick incoming? Can Reso play it?

Of course he can, he is a god after all. But not sure kotol AM can work well in laning.

You make offlaner's life miserable with no mana

And what about actual dual offlane that just goes and hits kotol?

Though ogre can salvage it i suppose.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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