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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 12 2016 19:04 GMT
#301
On August 13 2016 04:02 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:01 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:00 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:58 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:50 nojok wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:48 dutchfriese wrote:
just gg please mvp, it was a good fight. You can ban OP king next game.

Sand king got raped left and right yesterday, he's still dependant on winning his lane.


Okay? Thanks for stating the obvious, he's OP because caustic finale is broken atm.


he's OP but not nearly as OP as SD/Mirana/ET


I dunno. Maybe, I wouldn't have said any of this a few days ago, but the more SK I see the more my opinion changes of the hero.

There's no reason not to max caustic. It's retardedly broken atm and is ripe for abusing, and the smart teams are doing that now. I guarantee SK is going to get the nerf bat the hardest next patch.


I mean the issue is that Fnatic really know how to play SK well and they've gotten a lot of games these last few days. Ohaiyo is really good on initiators.


So because Fnatic understands how to abuse SK the best, that makes him not OP.

OK, gotcha


a truly OP hero makes people who don't play that hero well still seem OP (case in point Old Chicken with Mirana).


Old Chicken is good at Mirana. Shitty case
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 12 2016 19:04 GMT
#302
Now is the time that Mvp shakes out their hidden 4 protect 1 strats
Neosteel Enthusiast
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 12 2016 19:05 GMT
#303
On August 13 2016 04:03 babysimba wrote:
SK hasn't changed at all except teams learn how to lane him and get him a good start.

Look what happened when Fnatic understand that and shut down SK totally in Liquid's game


This has been my point the entire time. The hero's laning phase is way too OP atm, and then he uses his lead to wreck the mid game. If you don't shut that hero down in lane, well good luck.
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
August 12 2016 19:06 GMT
#304
On August 13 2016 04:04 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:02 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:01 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:00 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:58 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:50 nojok wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:48 dutchfriese wrote:
just gg please mvp, it was a good fight. You can ban OP king next game.

Sand king got raped left and right yesterday, he's still dependant on winning his lane.


Okay? Thanks for stating the obvious, he's OP because caustic finale is broken atm.


he's OP but not nearly as OP as SD/Mirana/ET


I dunno. Maybe, I wouldn't have said any of this a few days ago, but the more SK I see the more my opinion changes of the hero.

There's no reason not to max caustic. It's retardedly broken atm and is ripe for abusing, and the smart teams are doing that now. I guarantee SK is going to get the nerf bat the hardest next patch.


I mean the issue is that Fnatic really know how to play SK well and they've gotten a lot of games these last few days. Ohaiyo is really good on initiators.


So because Fnatic understands how to abuse SK the best, that makes him not OP.

OK, gotcha


a truly OP hero makes people who don't play that hero well still seem OP (case in point Old Chicken with Mirana).


Old Chicken is good at Mirana. Shitty case

If he's your idea of a good Mirana player, then I don't even wanna imagine what a bad one looks like to you
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 12 2016 19:07 GMT
#305
LOL CAPI
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
August 12 2016 19:07 GMT
#306
On August 13 2016 04:05 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:03 babysimba wrote:
SK hasn't changed at all except teams learn how to lane him and get him a good start.

Look what happened when Fnatic understand that and shut down SK totally in Liquid's game


This has been my point the entire time. The hero's laning phase is way too OP atm, and then he uses his lead to wreck the mid game. If you don't shut that hero down in lane, well good luck.


So shut him down. Fnatic stomped MindControl's SK in G1 yesterday.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 12 2016 19:07 GMT
#307
On August 13 2016 04:06 Dysisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:04 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:02 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:01 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:00 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:58 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:50 nojok wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:48 dutchfriese wrote:
just gg please mvp, it was a good fight. You can ban OP king next game.

Sand king got raped left and right yesterday, he's still dependant on winning his lane.


Okay? Thanks for stating the obvious, he's OP because caustic finale is broken atm.


he's OP but not nearly as OP as SD/Mirana/ET


I dunno. Maybe, I wouldn't have said any of this a few days ago, but the more SK I see the more my opinion changes of the hero.

There's no reason not to max caustic. It's retardedly broken atm and is ripe for abusing, and the smart teams are doing that now. I guarantee SK is going to get the nerf bat the hardest next patch.


I mean the issue is that Fnatic really know how to play SK well and they've gotten a lot of games these last few days. Ohaiyo is really good on initiators.


So because Fnatic understands how to abuse SK the best, that makes him not OP.

OK, gotcha


a truly OP hero makes people who don't play that hero well still seem OP (case in point Old Chicken with Mirana).


Old Chicken is good at Mirana. Shitty case

If he's your idea of a good Mirana player, then I don't even wanna imagine what a bad one looks like to you

Now that you mention it i struggle to remember a player who has sincerely looked bad on potm this tournament.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
August 12 2016 19:07 GMT
#308
MVP will change their 4-5 melee line-up next game, win game 2 and pick 4-5 melee setup in G3 and lose.

Please MVP don't let me down.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 12 2016 19:07 GMT
#309
On August 13 2016 04:05 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:03 babysimba wrote:
SK hasn't changed at all except teams learn how to lane him and get him a good start.

Look what happened when Fnatic understand that and shut down SK totally in Liquid's game


This has been my point the entire time. The hero's laning phase is way too OP atm, and then he uses his lead to wreck the mid game. If you don't shut that hero down in lane, well good luck.

Then shut down his lane what's your point. His laning is not much better than most offlaners and couldn't go back to jungle with caustic build. Teams are just drafting too greedily
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 12 2016 19:08 GMT
#310
I think the most impressive thing about Fnatic's buildup has been their warding. The spirit of Net living on.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-12 19:10:51
August 12 2016 19:08 GMT
#311
On August 13 2016 04:05 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:03 babysimba wrote:
SK hasn't changed at all except teams learn how to lane him and get him a good start.

Look what happened when Fnatic understand that and shut down SK totally in Liquid's game


This has been my point the entire time. The X hero's laning phase is way too OP atm, and then X hero uses his lead to wreck the mid game. If you don't shut that X hero down in lane, well good luck.


see you can use the exact same sentence for X hero.

The bottomline is, they can ban him to not allow the 'OPness' or pick him to use his 'OPness'. This goddamn hero wasnt even picked until 4th pick in game1 ffs
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 12 2016 19:08 GMT
#312
Wait that part outside is free ? thats pretty awesome from valve
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 12 2016 19:08 GMT
#313
On August 13 2016 04:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:06 Dysisa wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:04 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:02 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:01 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:00 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:58 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:50 nojok wrote:
[quote]
Sand king got raped left and right yesterday, he's still dependant on winning his lane.


Okay? Thanks for stating the obvious, he's OP because caustic finale is broken atm.


he's OP but not nearly as OP as SD/Mirana/ET


I dunno. Maybe, I wouldn't have said any of this a few days ago, but the more SK I see the more my opinion changes of the hero.

There's no reason not to max caustic. It's retardedly broken atm and is ripe for abusing, and the smart teams are doing that now. I guarantee SK is going to get the nerf bat the hardest next patch.


I mean the issue is that Fnatic really know how to play SK well and they've gotten a lot of games these last few days. Ohaiyo is really good on initiators.


So because Fnatic understands how to abuse SK the best, that makes him not OP.

OK, gotcha


a truly OP hero makes people who don't play that hero well still seem OP (case in point Old Chicken with Mirana).


Old Chicken is good at Mirana. Shitty case

If he's your idea of a good Mirana player, then I don't even wanna imagine what a bad one looks like to you

Now that you mention it i struggle to remember a player who has sincerely looked bad on potm this tournament.

Signal of overpowered
Neosteel Enthusiast
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 12 2016 19:09 GMT
#314
On August 13 2016 04:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:06 Dysisa wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:04 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:02 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:01 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:00 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:58 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:50 nojok wrote:
[quote]
Sand king got raped left and right yesterday, he's still dependant on winning his lane.


Okay? Thanks for stating the obvious, he's OP because caustic finale is broken atm.


he's OP but not nearly as OP as SD/Mirana/ET


I dunno. Maybe, I wouldn't have said any of this a few days ago, but the more SK I see the more my opinion changes of the hero.

There's no reason not to max caustic. It's retardedly broken atm and is ripe for abusing, and the smart teams are doing that now. I guarantee SK is going to get the nerf bat the hardest next patch.


I mean the issue is that Fnatic really know how to play SK well and they've gotten a lot of games these last few days. Ohaiyo is really good on initiators.


So because Fnatic understands how to abuse SK the best, that makes him not OP.

OK, gotcha


a truly OP hero makes people who don't play that hero well still seem OP (case in point Old Chicken with Mirana).


Old Chicken is good at Mirana. Shitty case

If he's your idea of a good Mirana player, then I don't even wanna imagine what a bad one looks like to you

Now that you mention it i struggle to remember a player who has sincerely looked bad on potm this tournament.


How can you look bad on her with her current standard item build?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
phantomlancer23
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
733 Posts
August 12 2016 19:09 GMT
#315
I cheer for mvp but i think they ll lose 2-0.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
August 12 2016 19:09 GMT
#316
On August 13 2016 04:08 Faruko wrote:
Wait that part outside is free ? thats pretty awesome from valve


They moved a second screen there yesterday. I think they are expecting a big crowd for the finals.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
August 12 2016 19:09 GMT
#317
On August 13 2016 04:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:06 Dysisa wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:04 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:02 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:01 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:00 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:58 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:50 nojok wrote:
[quote]
Sand king got raped left and right yesterday, he's still dependant on winning his lane.


Okay? Thanks for stating the obvious, he's OP because caustic finale is broken atm.


he's OP but not nearly as OP as SD/Mirana/ET


I dunno. Maybe, I wouldn't have said any of this a few days ago, but the more SK I see the more my opinion changes of the hero.

There's no reason not to max caustic. It's retardedly broken atm and is ripe for abusing, and the smart teams are doing that now. I guarantee SK is going to get the nerf bat the hardest next patch.


I mean the issue is that Fnatic really know how to play SK well and they've gotten a lot of games these last few days. Ohaiyo is really good on initiators.


So because Fnatic understands how to abuse SK the best, that makes him not OP.

OK, gotcha


a truly OP hero makes people who don't play that hero well still seem OP (case in point Old Chicken with Mirana).


Old Chicken is good at Mirana. Shitty case

If he's your idea of a good Mirana player, then I don't even wanna imagine what a bad one looks like to you

Now that you mention it i struggle to remember a player who has sincerely looked bad on potm this tournament.


All we need now is the shiki of the potm
Proud owner of Fnatic and Clutch Gamers's Discussion Page
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 12 2016 19:10 GMT
#318
On August 13 2016 04:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:06 Dysisa wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:04 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:02 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:01 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:00 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:58 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:50 nojok wrote:
[quote]
Sand king got raped left and right yesterday, he's still dependant on winning his lane.


Okay? Thanks for stating the obvious, he's OP because caustic finale is broken atm.


he's OP but not nearly as OP as SD/Mirana/ET


I dunno. Maybe, I wouldn't have said any of this a few days ago, but the more SK I see the more my opinion changes of the hero.

There's no reason not to max caustic. It's retardedly broken atm and is ripe for abusing, and the smart teams are doing that now. I guarantee SK is going to get the nerf bat the hardest next patch.


I mean the issue is that Fnatic really know how to play SK well and they've gotten a lot of games these last few days. Ohaiyo is really good on initiators.


So because Fnatic understands how to abuse SK the best, that makes him not OP.

OK, gotcha


a truly OP hero makes people who don't play that hero well still seem OP (case in point Old Chicken with Mirana).


Old Chicken is good at Mirana. Shitty case

If he's your idea of a good Mirana player, then I don't even wanna imagine what a bad one looks like to you

Now that you mention it i struggle to remember a player who has sincerely looked bad on potm this tournament.

and that is the magic of OP heroes lol
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-12 19:10:50
August 12 2016 19:10 GMT
#319
On August 13 2016 04:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:06 Dysisa wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:04 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:02 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:01 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:00 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:58 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:53 dutchfriese wrote:
[quote]

Okay? Thanks for stating the obvious, he's OP because caustic finale is broken atm.


he's OP but not nearly as OP as SD/Mirana/ET


I dunno. Maybe, I wouldn't have said any of this a few days ago, but the more SK I see the more my opinion changes of the hero.

There's no reason not to max caustic. It's retardedly broken atm and is ripe for abusing, and the smart teams are doing that now. I guarantee SK is going to get the nerf bat the hardest next patch.

I mean the issue is that Fnatic really know how to play SK well and they've gotten a lot of games these last few days. Ohaiyo is really good on initiators.


So because Fnatic understands how to abuse SK the best, that makes him not OP.

OK, gotcha


a truly OP hero makes people who don't play that hero well still seem OP (case in point Old Chicken with Mirana).


Old Chicken is good at Mirana. Shitty case

If he's your idea of a good Mirana player, then I don't even wanna imagine what a bad one looks like to you

Now that you mention it i struggle to remember a player who has sincerely looked bad on potm this tournament.


How can you look bad on her with her current standard item build?

I remember EE feeding like crazy when he was trying to do too much to make space before aghs.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 12 2016 19:10 GMT
#320
On August 13 2016 04:08 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:05 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 13 2016 04:03 babysimba wrote:
SK hasn't changed at all except teams learn how to lane him and get him a good start.

Look what happened when Fnatic understand that and shut down SK totally in Liquid's game


This has been my point the entire time. The X hero's laning phase is way too OP atm, and then X hero uses his lead to wreck the mid game. If you don't shut that X hero down in lane, well good luck.


see you can use the exact same sentence for X hero.

The bottomline is, they can ban him to not allow the 'OPness' or pick him to use his 'OPness'.


LOL

I've said multiple times already that MVP should ban SK first phase.
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