• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:09
CEST 04:09
KST 11:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2910Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format9[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!0Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back4BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back Co-op Commander Guide: Kerrigan Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
GSL CK #5 Race War WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5326 users

[The International 6] Main Event - Day 4 - Page 30

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 137 Next
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 11 2016 20:39 GMT
#581
Now that is the game where even THAT alchemist is not bad.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
August 11 2016 20:39 GMT
#582
this is actually a very good plan for tnc. they saw last game dc can't end the game early so they're banking on them fucking up and win late.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 11 2016 20:39 GMT
#583
On August 12 2016 05:39 FuzzyJAM wrote:
As far as I can tell, TB needs to have decent lane and not feed for the first 25 minutes and then TNC get almost an auto-win.

You can never count a team with mirana, the most op hero of the patch, by far.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
August 11 2016 20:39 GMT
#584
Digital Choke please
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
August 11 2016 20:40 GMT
#585
Tnc out draft themselfs
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 11 2016 20:40 GMT
#586
On August 12 2016 05:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
Uhm, Dark Seer!?


DS + SK means the TB could be completely out of the game.

Also, DS can pull enemies into their own Chrono.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 11 2016 20:40 GMT
#587
On August 12 2016 05:40 SkelA wrote:
Tnc out draft themselfs

Not sure, because after 3 letter item DC have literally 0 damage.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
August 11 2016 20:41 GMT
#588
On August 12 2016 05:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Now that is the game where even THAT alchemist is not bad.

Vs wall?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
August 11 2016 20:41 GMT
#589
lvl 1 5v5
alch counter?
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44281 Posts
August 11 2016 20:41 GMT
#590
yeah i'm not watching this game i'm really going to bed
this is a quote
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
August 11 2016 20:41 GMT
#591
kuku plz
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
August 11 2016 20:41 GMT
#592
GG
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32750 Posts
August 11 2016 20:41 GMT
#593
Kuku again.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 11 2016 20:41 GMT
#594
On August 12 2016 05:41 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 05:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Now that is the game where even THAT alchemist is not bad.

Vs wall?

As long as he does not fight, i mean.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 11 2016 20:41 GMT
#595
kuku died

it doesnt matter when you read this
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 11 2016 20:42 GMT
#596
On August 12 2016 05:36 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 05:31 Kishin2 wrote:
On August 12 2016 05:21 goody153 wrote:
On August 12 2016 05:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 12 2016 05:14 goody153 wrote:
On August 12 2016 05:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 12 2016 05:12 goody153 wrote:
On August 12 2016 05:10 Kabras wrote:
On August 12 2016 05:08 goody153 wrote:
On August 12 2016 05:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
Alchemist against AA is a draft auto lose.

3 melee cores against void-et-at-magnus-ember is draft auto lose

Not if you have silencer and 3 tanky cores with an ember as the main damage dealer on the other side but it's TNC's fault why they are in this situation anyways

more like kuku's fault feeding bot 4 times laning phase

i mean silencer's good but that's 1 ult. dc have 4 ults and it only takes one to force out the global. a good one, which they only got at 40 mins.

You guys are thinking of DC's lineup at this situation and not when they were even, In an even situation with TNC and kuku not going full retard ember who isn't super like this game is not gonna kill anything.

In an even situation you don't have Magnus moving out people out of RP either.

It was even game in a sense of both teams sucking.

No it wasn't even at all lol what were you watching ember was fatter than alchemist when do that ever happen in an even game

The game i was watching had Alchemist with 12k gold lead at ~30 minutes, what are you talking about? About time when Alchemist gave away 3 aghs and died back?
On August 12 2016 05:14 goody153 wrote:
Empower + ember only looks sick when the cores are squishy fuck and ember is super ahead which is the case this game. Try that in a normal game.

If that was juggernaut/AM + magnus then i'd accept your reason but not ember rofl

I play ember with 3 BFs when i play ember, i know the value of raw cleave, especially against Manta Alchemist kek.

So, try again.

ROFL you are literally only basing it on one situation it's as if ember is free from the fight and his only job is to wait for alchemist to pop manta and he'll never be bothered

it's as if alchemist is always clumping his manta with him when ember is around

oh yeah you are also assuming that ember has a rapier + daedalus + battlefury by the time alchemist gets manta + octarine+ radiance lololol good luck getting those items to prove your point that he deals that much damage to alch at that time frame

btw you are not gonna do shit damage to alch with 3 bf's if he's alone .. oh yeah i play ember too


Let's suppose Tnc actually got an early game advantage with their draft. Then what? Are they going to push towers? No, their heroes don't do that. Are they going to kill DC's heroes constantly and snowball? No, their heroes don't do that. No matter what it was DC who could control if, when, and where fights happen while Tnc's best case scenario of winning the early game enables them to... farm jungle stacks and ancient stacks? And not even be able to take rosh?

In that game where they were behind alchemist managed to farm, alch managed to get 6 slot in 30 minutes. What if TNC wasn't behind.

They have an axe and timber who could go in and a silencer that could back them up. They could even do the illusion siege with just the alch, that alch would've had items faster and DC would've never had enough tools and ember wouldn't shit even with cleave against an alch that fat backed up with silencer ult and a tanky axe/timber who DC outside the heroes ember has no damage in dealing against them. Like all they had to do was not go 1 by 1 and not clump that's it and i doubt axe/timber/alchemist can be killed by void/magnus like have you seen timber getting soloed by a void who only has vlads lol

The only reason DC managed to crush people and not get run over was that timber was underfarmed and feeding like an idiot and ember is overfarmed thanks to timber. I don't think ember is gonna kill anything with even farm or especially behind.

but that games over , though i can definitely agree DC won that game convincingly

It's timber job to take the risky farm, even ice^3 died a lot in that game 1 against EG and end up on top of the networth chart 10 minutes later. Blaming it all one one player when your argument is based on them having a single ulti with more than 2 minutes of downtime...
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
August 11 2016 20:42 GMT
#597
Kuku tilt CS.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 11 2016 20:43 GMT
#598
Hourly reminder that Alchemist is a trash hero
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 11 2016 20:44 GMT
#599
On August 12 2016 05:43 Talin wrote:
Hourly reminder that Alchemist is a trash hero

Only 0 5 in the main event, it's ok.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
August 11 2016 20:44 GMT
#600
w33 missing a free kill on Alch...
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 137 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#90
CranKy Ducklings160
davetesta54
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft427
RuFF_SC2 143
Nina 106
FoxeR 62
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3803
GuemChi 2952
NaDa 53
Counter-Strike
summit1g13418
tarik_tv4037
taco 273
minikerr50
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox486
Other Games
shahzam381
C9.Mang0315
ViBE235
Maynarde160
XaKoH 105
CosmosSc2 19
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2684
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 112
• EnkiAlexander 44
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP25
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra901
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
7h 51m
Kung Fu Cup
8h 51m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
CrankTV Team League
1d 8h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Dragon vs Hawk
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.