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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:44 GMT
#1601
These MR creeps though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 10 2016 22:44 GMT
#1602
On August 11 2016 07:43 PhoenixVoid wrote:
The CS difference is staggering.

The Shadow Demon is out leveling and out CSing Morphling.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 10 2016 22:45 GMT
#1603
Newbee drafts are consistently awful
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
August 10 2016 22:45 GMT
#1604
Newbee are totally dead this game. This amount of outfarm is extremely rare
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
August 10 2016 22:45 GMT
#1605
This SD is amazing
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
August 10 2016 22:45 GMT
#1606
now this is the liquid everyone expected. glad we dont pull a newbee.
even if we should loose, they boys play really well.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 10 2016 22:46 GMT
#1607
On August 11 2016 07:45 Asha wrote:
Newbee drafts are consistently awful

They won game 1 on sheer outdraft but sure.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:46 GMT
#1608
That helix rng on the creep stack! That never happens to me...
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 10 2016 22:47 GMT
#1609
On August 11 2016 07:30 Achaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:14 Achaian wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:12 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:05 Zea! wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:04 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
[quote]
Here's a secret for people with the rose-tinted glasses.

The larger the skill gap between teams, the better the winning team looks.

Alliance around TI3 looked "perfect" because they had a clean, methodical, efficient style that 14/15 other teams had no idea how to deal with, which let them do everything they wanted to do.

These days the skill level of the previous "dumpster" teams has risen immensely, and there is so competitive exposure to each team, that teams have to be far more adaptable and versatile than Alliance was.

TI5 CDEC disprove your statement.

Okay, should probably clarify "across an entire season".

There are still plenty of one-tournament wonders that can dominate within a week and across 20ish games.

But a team like Alliance that played the same style, more or less, across months all the way to TI and still dominate will likely never happen again.


Secret pre-TI5

And then got crushed in TI5 because they didn't move with the meta.

Which was my point...

They got crushed in TI5 because they fell apart in TI5, not because they didn't keep up with meta.

I agree, Secret played that meta really well, it's just the team fell apart and S4 missed all his ults on QoP that made them fail that year. This year's Secret lost because they devolved into becoming Mineski.


does no one remember when secret got figured out in the upper bracket by a chinese team with SD-Mirana destroying zai's offlane bristle

secret got figured out and failed to adapt

I don't remember anyone picking SD-Potm against Secret at TI5.


I looked through TI5 and it must have been somewhere else. My bad.

TI5 was the tournament where Secret insisted Shadow Fiend was still good and lost 4/4 games with it. The other loss was the Luna game.

(Fun fact their win against iG, their game wins were against SF)
Average means I'm better than half of you.
kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
August 10 2016 22:47 GMT
#1610
rotk says its gg
Starve the ego, feed the soul.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 22:48:21
August 10 2016 22:48 GMT
#1611
On August 11 2016 07:46 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:45 Asha wrote:
Newbee drafts are consistently awful

They won game 1 on sheer outdraft but sure.


alright alright they had 1 game of decent drafting

mostly awful here, awful in WB

This was 90% over at draft, 99% over now
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 10 2016 22:48 GMT
#1612
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:48 GMT
#1613
On August 11 2016 07:48 plasmidghost wrote:
There needs to be some serious stalling out of Newbee

To have their whole line-up be countered by SD-AM?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
phantomlancer23
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
733 Posts
August 10 2016 22:49 GMT
#1614
On August 11 2016 07:47 kaykaykay wrote:
rotk says its gg

He is right, i m so disappointed by kakas drafts.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:49 GMT
#1615
Btw, can someone explain me how rotk has 7k mmr?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kalaway
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada36 Posts
August 10 2016 22:50 GMT
#1616
Pro scan
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 10 2016 22:50 GMT
#1617
On August 11 2016 07:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
Btw, can someone explain me how rotk has 7k mmr?


mmr dont matter
5k SEA mmr > 9k mmr
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Nakama
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany584 Posts
August 10 2016 22:50 GMT
#1618
Liquid in fire. What a scan !
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
August 10 2016 22:50 GMT
#1619
Gotta give huge props to liquid for being able to come back from the g1 loss
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 10 2016 22:50 GMT
#1620
Thanks Draskyl for letting them know they smoked. Convenient scan from Liquid.
Getting too old for this..
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