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Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 09 2016 23:37 GMT
#1761
careful with that medusa with her splitshot getting off like 30 autoattacks, she might manage to... kill your axe after he blew his load lmao
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 09 2016 23:37 GMT
#1762
Azarkon predicts OG to win TI.
OG gets knocked out 12th.
EG somehow manage to get champion.
Western scene > China
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1763
On August 10 2016 08:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
i know og didn't exactly play perfect but what the fuck was a medusa supposed to do against this PL?

The game is supposed to be 5v5, not 2v4 or some other shit.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1764
On August 10 2016 08:37 Sloke wrote:
I actually thought dusa with mjollnir on herself could kinda stand against PL but no, as soon as the mana is gone dusa is gone too and PL is barely scratched.

Yeah me too
Neosteel Enthusiast
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1765
On August 10 2016 08:37 babysimba wrote:
Azarkon predicts OG to win TI.
OG gets knocked out 12th.
EG somehow manage to get champion.
Western scene > China

Azarkon always wins.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1766
On August 10 2016 08:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
i know og didn't exactly play perfect but what the fuck was a medusa supposed to do against this PL?

I guess melt illusions with her giant-cooldown ult?
kiss kiss fall in love
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1767
On August 10 2016 08:37 babysimba wrote:
Azarkon predicts OG to win TI.
OG gets knocked out 12th.
EG somehow manage to get champion.
Western scene > China


EG aren't getting past ehome thats for sure
secret - never again
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1768
On August 10 2016 08:37 babysimba wrote:
Azarkon predicts OG to win TI.
OG gets knocked out 12th.
EG somehow manage to get champion.
Western scene > China


farewell a-god
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1769
TNC playing some beautiful dota
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1770
OG can just outplay tnc tbh,but they choose to run this deathball draft instead
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13090 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1771
On August 10 2016 08:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
wow you guys were right PL actually wins



No shit we are all 9k mmr here in theorycrafting
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1772
On August 10 2016 08:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 08:37 Sloke wrote:
I actually thought dusa with mjollnir on herself could kinda stand against PL but no, as soon as the mana is gone dusa is gone too and PL is barely scratched.

Yeah me too

Her actual damage is terrible without the Drow aura though... and without the Vlad's aura.
kiss kiss fall in love
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1773
On August 10 2016 08:37 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 08:36 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:31 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:29 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:28 Emnjay808 wrote:
Why is EU dota so bad this TI?


I think the top teams in EU play no games, since they just want invites.

Meanwhile China has had that Dota League where all big teams played a huge round robin, etc.


I think it's far more "peaking too early" effect. Newbee, OG & Liquid are all in the same spot in the bracket at the moment. Top 3 @ Manila & Epicenter.

The meta changes away from what you do best, and you're trying to figure out a way to solve a problem that you already have a solution to.


Maybe, though still doesn't explain why the EU teams have been so bad. Alliance, Secret, and Escape as the EU qualifiers have been very underwhelming.


Except Liquid & OG, who was even decent after the post-Shanghai shuffle? There was a lot of tier 2 teams that weren't very consistent. There's a reason why Synderen made TI.


But why is EU so bad?

In the majors, especially after Shanghai, the feeling was the EU if based on merit should have 8-10 slots at the next major lol.

EU isn't bad. this is TI. TI always has its own meta. you adopt or die.
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MaCRo.gg
Profile Joined June 2015
Korea (South)860 Posts
August 09 2016 23:38 GMT
#1774
On August 10 2016 08:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 08:31 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:29 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:28 Emnjay808 wrote:
Why is EU dota so bad this TI?


I think the top teams in EU play no games, since they just want invites.

Meanwhile China has had that Dota League where all big teams played a huge round robin, etc.


I think it's far more "peaking too early" effect. Newbee, OG & Liquid are all in the same spot in the bracket at the moment. Top 3 @ Manila & Epicenter.

The meta changes away from what you do best, and you're trying to figure out a way to solve a problem that you already have a solution to.


Maybe, though still doesn't explain why the EU teams have been so bad. Alliance, Secret, and Escape as the EU qualifiers have been very underwhelming.


Secret was a train wreck despite SL results.
Alliance was never "back".
Na'Vi got some bad luck.
Escape was bound to finish last with Synderwin.
Liquid kept Heen and lost Blitz as coaches.
OG should've trained instead of going to Summit.

Over-saturation of tournaments for EU teams really hurt them imo, but really if you take away MVP-OG game there aren't really HUGE upsets. (It looks like that will change however).
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 09 2016 23:39 GMT
#1775
On August 10 2016 08:37 Kipsate wrote:
watching the Philipine stream is amazing rofl

Ty, great idea.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 09 2016 23:39 GMT
#1776
On August 10 2016 08:37 Sloke wrote:
I actually thought dusa with mjollnir on herself could kinda stand against PL but no, as soon as the mana is gone dusa is gone too and PL is barely scratched.


Yep, never underestimate the PL! She needs to build a damage item, they can still easily win teamfights if she gets a Rapier. They need good vision and get that rapier.

Really should have finished the Manta up and went Rapier instead of Mjollnir.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
August 09 2016 23:39 GMT
#1777
miracle's itemization is losing this game pretty hard, he needs BKB to manfight PL, and doesn't need linkens or drums at all. SNY mkb mjollnir bkb would be much stronger this game. And an AC as 5th item probably cos ET is a hero in a game called dota
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 09 2016 23:39 GMT
#1778
On August 10 2016 08:37 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 08:36 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:31 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:29 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:28 Emnjay808 wrote:
Why is EU dota so bad this TI?


I think the top teams in EU play no games, since they just want invites.

Meanwhile China has had that Dota League where all big teams played a huge round robin, etc.


I think it's far more "peaking too early" effect. Newbee, OG & Liquid are all in the same spot in the bracket at the moment. Top 3 @ Manila & Epicenter.

The meta changes away from what you do best, and you're trying to figure out a way to solve a problem that you already have a solution to.


Maybe, though still doesn't explain why the EU teams have been so bad. Alliance, Secret, and Escape as the EU qualifiers have been very underwhelming.


Except Liquid & OG, who was even decent after the post-Shanghai shuffle? There was a lot of tier 2 teams that weren't very consistent. There's a reason why Synderen made TI.


But why is EU so bad?

In the majors, especially after Shanghai, the feeling was the EU if based on merit should have 8-10 slots at the next major lol.


Patches, Meta shifts, personal conflicts and a lot of Chinese teams probably terribly ashamed of how badly Shanghai went.

Plus, everything is prelude to TI and TI operates differently from Weekend tournaments. You have a very different Meta in the Bracket, and it's all about how you adjust. But this is also just game 1. TNC will have to win a second.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2867 Posts
August 09 2016 23:39 GMT
#1779
On August 10 2016 08:04 ASoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 08:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 10 2016 08:01 ASoo wrote:
OVERHYPED GROGNARDS

Let's go Jimmy Doto!

You're late bro, Tnc are done.

Yeah I'm posting from work, might be a bit late on some of my memery.

WHATEVER I STILL BELIEVE IN THE COMEBACK

It'll never happen, they said.

You're late, they said.

BUT WHO'S LATE NOW, OVERCOOKED GREEN-BEANS?
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 09 2016 23:40 GMT
#1780
TNC executing like a tier 1 team thats for sure.
secret - never again
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