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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
August 08 2016 22:03 GMT
#1761
Shadow playing so far ahead like he had Aegis, but it just expired.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 08 2016 22:03 GMT
#1762
The Drow Ranger mask of madness cosmetic is dumb, the spastic portrait animation is stupid, and any player who has it equipped has bad taste.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2016 22:03 GMT
#1763
On August 09 2016 07:02 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 07:00 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:59 stuchiu wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:53 Wintex wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I made a quick graphic for what I think the TI bracket should look like (imo):

[image loading]

too complicated

Could be a plot breakdown of Naruto. <3


Speaking of Naruto this was a line in the manga.

"In a team of five one is always trash."

That sounds like a Sound 5/Sasuke Retrieval Arc quote.

honestly fuk naruto anything past the original 135 episodes is garbage. except the kakashi chuunin exam.

the best episode is the kakashi mask episode

Your opinion on the best episode is correct.

Episode 101 for those curious.
kiss kiss fall in love
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 08 2016 22:03 GMT
#1764
--- Nuked ---
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 08 2016 22:04 GMT
#1765
Wings proving that theyre overrated and inconsistent.
Skol
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 08 2016 22:04 GMT
#1766
Wings are so bad at retreating.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2016 22:04 GMT
#1767
On August 09 2016 07:04 nojok wrote:
Wings are so bad at retreating.

They probably didn't even discover they could move backwards until recently...
kiss kiss fall in love
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
August 08 2016 22:04 GMT
#1768
On August 09 2016 07:02 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:59 Ej_ wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:
My issue is that MVP gets 6 points, does poorly in the group stages (like not winning a single series), OG does far better, and yet once the real tournament starts, they are essentially at the same spot.

they, in fact, could be at the opposite spots, had OG picked Newbee


they didn't tho


Hence why I said essentially, because choosing between 3rd and 4th in the other group is a trivial advantage, from my viewpoint.

It is not trivial when the game is so diverse that stylistic gameplay is allowed to exist. OG picked an opponent they obviously thought they had the number of.

It even benefits DC, as they have a winning record vs Wings and are confident vs them.

How do you think Portugal won the Euros.
The Bomber boy
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2016 22:05 GMT
#1769
On August 09 2016 07:04 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 07:02 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:59 Ej_ wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:
My issue is that MVP gets 6 points, does poorly in the group stages (like not winning a single series), OG does far better, and yet once the real tournament starts, they are essentially at the same spot.

they, in fact, could be at the opposite spots, had OG picked Newbee


they didn't tho


Hence why I said essentially, because choosing between 3rd and 4th in the other group is a trivial advantage, from my viewpoint.

It is not trivial when the game is so diverse that stylistic gameplay is allowed to exist. OG picked an opponent they obviously thought they had the number of.

It even benefits DC, as they have a winning record vs Wings and are confident vs them.

How do you think Portugal won the Euros.

Well Portugal won the Euro partially by not losing.
kiss kiss fall in love
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 08 2016 22:05 GMT
#1770
On August 09 2016 07:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:57 Kuroeeah wrote:
I don't understand the need of a new format. I could see your perspective on having a team make it to winners without having won a single series but you could just change it up like they did before where a series win gave you 3 points as opposed to a point per win.

Is it that big of a fallacy that OG lost to MVP?


Okay, the not winning a single game thing wasn't necessary, I prefer the 2 points for win and 1 point for tie opposed to the 3-1-0 distribution that soccer does.

My issue is that MVP gets 6 points, does poorly in the group stages (like not winning a single series), OG does far better, and yet once the real tournament starts, they are essentially at the same spot.

I'm gonna reiterate something I think lolfail9001 pointed out earlier, which is still the fact that 4 teams had a worse record than MVP, and competition is relative to everyone else, and not an objective marker.

The thing I could agree with Fiwi is that I think WINNING the entire group stage actually should give you an advantage. I don't agree with his sentiment on MVP doing so poorly thus being undeserved of being in the winners since the teams below MVP flopped so hard but it's a little strange that winning your group just boils down to picking between the 3rd and 4th place teams.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
August 08 2016 22:05 GMT
#1771
On August 09 2016 07:05 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 07:04 Wintex wrote:
On August 09 2016 07:02 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:59 Ej_ wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:
My issue is that MVP gets 6 points, does poorly in the group stages (like not winning a single series), OG does far better, and yet once the real tournament starts, they are essentially at the same spot.

they, in fact, could be at the opposite spots, had OG picked Newbee


they didn't tho


Hence why I said essentially, because choosing between 3rd and 4th in the other group is a trivial advantage, from my viewpoint.

It is not trivial when the game is so diverse that stylistic gameplay is allowed to exist. OG picked an opponent they obviously thought they had the number of.

It even benefits DC, as they have a winning record vs Wings and are confident vs them.

How do you think Portugal won the Euros.

Well Portugal won the Euro partially by not losing.

they won the finals.
and got on the easy side of the bracket.
The Bomber boy
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2016 22:06 GMT
#1772
On August 09 2016 07:05 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 07:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:57 Kuroeeah wrote:
I don't understand the need of a new format. I could see your perspective on having a team make it to winners without having won a single series but you could just change it up like they did before where a series win gave you 3 points as opposed to a point per win.

Is it that big of a fallacy that OG lost to MVP?


Okay, the not winning a single game thing wasn't necessary, I prefer the 2 points for win and 1 point for tie opposed to the 3-1-0 distribution that soccer does.

My issue is that MVP gets 6 points, does poorly in the group stages (like not winning a single series), OG does far better, and yet once the real tournament starts, they are essentially at the same spot.

I'm gonna reiterate something I think lolfail9001 pointed out earlier, which is still the fact that 4 teams had a worse record than MVP, and competition is relative to everyone else, and not an objective marker.

The thing I could agree with Fiwi is that I think WINNING the entire group stage actually should give you an advantage. I don't agree with his sentiment on MVP doing so poorly thus being undeserved of being in the winners since the teams below MVP flopped so hard but it's a little strange that winning your group just boils down to picking between the 3rd and 4th place teams.

I think doing the best in your group and having the choice of opponent is enough of an incentive to crush it though. :/
kiss kiss fall in love
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 08 2016 22:06 GMT
#1773
Can we stop speaking about the Euro please?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 08 2016 22:07 GMT
#1774
On August 09 2016 07:03 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:57 Kuroeeah wrote:
I don't understand the need of a new format. I could see your perspective on having a team make it to winners without having won a single series but you could just change it up like they did before where a series win gave you 3 points as opposed to a point per win.

Is it that big of a fallacy that OG lost to MVP?


Okay, the not winning a single game thing wasn't necessary, I prefer the 2 points for win and 1 point for tie opposed to the 3-1-0 distribution that soccer does.

My issue is that MVP gets 6 points, does poorly in the group stages (like not winning a single series), OG does far better, and yet once the real tournament starts, they are essentially at the same spot.

I'm gonna reiterate something I think lolfail9001 pointed out earlier, which is still the fact that 4 teams had a worse record than MVP, and competition is relative to everyone else, and not an objective marker.


Yes, I understand, and hence why I replied that it wasn't worth mentioning. My main argument is that a 4th place and 1st place team in a group stage that takes 3 days shouldn't start on the same footing, and I think rewarding people who do well in groups is a good idea.

TI4 was bad because by the main event, we knew which four teams would be in the top 6, and after one day we knew 2 of the top 3.

In this format, all you know is that 2 of the 4 of the 1 and 2 positions in groups will get top 4. It's a mix of both, and gives more weight to groups.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 08 2016 22:08 GMT
#1775
dat dodge
The Real Power~
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 08 2016 22:08 GMT
#1776
On August 09 2016 07:03 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:54 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:53 Wintex wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I made a quick graphic for what I think the TI bracket should look like (imo):

[image loading]

too complicated


lol?


I concur.


I think if you saw one tournament with it, you'd be like wow, this is so simple. Honestly, this is one of the easier brackets to understand out there.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 08 2016 22:08 GMT
#1777
why is LD's analysis so terrible?
secret - never again
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 08 2016 22:08 GMT
#1778
The group stage just decides overall seeding. It gives time for better teams to perform after adapting to the current meta. If not the tournament is just based on which team is lucky enough to have meta down. You can't have a 20mil tourny come down to that.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2016 22:09 GMT
#1779
On August 09 2016 07:08 ch33psh33p wrote:
why is LD's analysis so terrible?

I always thought LD was the hype caster, not the analytic one anyway.
kiss kiss fall in love
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 08 2016 22:09 GMT
#1780
On August 09 2016 07:08 ch33psh33p wrote:
why is LD's analysis so terrible?

He never had good analysis, you want to sid him with an analytical caster, not maut.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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