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HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
June 21 2015 12:24 GMT
#701
On June 21 2015 21:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 21:10 midou wrote:
What clowny stuff can Secret pull out in game 2?

that is the question

First phase pick techies.


First phase bloodseeker pick to force the zeus ban, then pick techies.

Yea, like yesterday.
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
June 21 2015 12:25 GMT
#702
On June 21 2015 21:21 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 21:19 Racket wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:17 rabidch wrote:
EG secret is going to be the navi alliance this year

Then I hope EG wins, if EG equals NaVI

secret has way more fans, they are easily old NaVi

it's super fashionable to hate EG so they are Alliance

i'm not sure people like EG

although they like suma1l and ppd much but the hate of secret is bigger like they have to perform super good or everyone will just flame but when eg flops that doens't happen as much as secret
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 21 2015 12:25 GMT
#703
On June 21 2015 21:24 HammerKick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 21:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:10 midou wrote:
What clowny stuff can Secret pull out in game 2?

that is the question

First phase pick techies.


First phase bloodseeker pick to force the zeus ban, then pick techies.

Yea, like yesterday.

Bloodseeker does not even combo that well with techies, it's about Tusk.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 21 2015 12:26 GMT
#704
I fucking love Maelk.

Hahahahahahaha.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
June 21 2015 12:26 GMT
#705
On June 21 2015 21:25 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 21:24 HammerKick wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:10 midou wrote:
What clowny stuff can Secret pull out in game 2?

that is the question

First phase pick techies.


First phase bloodseeker pick to force the zeus ban, then pick techies.

Yea, like yesterday.

Bloodseeker does not even combo that well with techies, it's about Tusk.

tiny and techies sounds like good
this is a quote
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 12:27:14
June 21 2015 12:26 GMT
#706
I don't understand when EG beating slumping VG and heavy-reliant on pocket strats VP became equal of being undisputed top3 team in the world, honestly.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 21 2015 12:27 GMT
#707
On June 21 2015 21:26 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I don't understand when EG beating slumping VG and VP became equal of being undisputed top3 team in the world, honestly.

Who else you going to put above them?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
June 21 2015 12:27 GMT
#708
oldie used "Clever"

- it's not very effective
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 21 2015 12:27 GMT
#709
On June 21 2015 21:25 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 21:21 lolnoty wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:19 Racket wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:17 rabidch wrote:
EG secret is going to be the navi alliance this year

Then I hope EG wins, if EG equals NaVI

secret has way more fans, they are easily old NaVi

it's super fashionable to hate EG so they are Alliance

i'm not sure people like EG

although they like suma1l and ppd much but the hate of secret is bigger like they have to perform super good or everyone will just flame but when eg flops that doens't happen as much as secret

sumail and ppd are probably the 2 most hated parts of eg by far
posting on liquid sites in current year
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
June 21 2015 12:27 GMT
#710
On June 21 2015 21:21 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 21:19 Racket wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:17 rabidch wrote:
EG secret is going to be the navi alliance this year

Then I hope EG wins, if EG equals NaVI

secret has way more fans, they are easily old NaVi

it's super fashionable to hate EG so they are Alliance

EG also has the worst fans right now, comparable to Alliance back then.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 21 2015 12:27 GMT
#711
On June 21 2015 21:26 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I fucking love Maelk.

Hahahahahahaha.

Not Maelk, Reek. Only Reek.

Lesh and Tusk for Secret.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
June 21 2015 12:28 GMT
#712
On June 21 2015 21:24 goody153 wrote:
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On June 21 2015 21:19 Terrorbladder wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:12 LimitSEA wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:10 broodmann wrote:
Secret are just so good, amazing to watch. They look better than Alliance 2013

They look less irritating than Alliance 2013.

Secret look so tough to beat. Early on I thought iG was doing pretty well, but didn't shut down the AM and had no real way to handle him. Well played by RTZ.
You feel they're less irritating because Alliance's good run began from February straight until TI, but Secret's good run only began from May when they finally snatched the first LAN title.

are you sure a 3rd place run at DAC is bad ? that doesn't sound bad to me considering it's the second biggest tournament of the year(TI year) for a first showing .. but if you put hype on their roster surely it's not enough


I think if you think like that you almost have to consider NTH as part of Alliance's domination.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 21 2015 12:28 GMT
#713
On June 21 2015 21:26 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I don't understand when EG beating slumping VG and heavy-reliant on pocket strats VP became equal of being undisputed top3 team in the world, honestly.

Will pull an Azarkon's fallacy here: bbbbbut iG have never beaten EG in BoX series after DAC!
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
June 21 2015 12:28 GMT
#714
On June 21 2015 21:16 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 21:15 goody153 wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:12 Nerfed wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:10 goody153 wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
Tusk and kotol do look top tier though.

only tusk

kotol still isn't that always super good


Puppey's KOTL is very impressive (ofc it inculdes the "when they draft him" part)


yeah it's impressive although he may need really strong cores like the rtz AM

On June 21 2015 21:12 LimitSEA wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:10 broodmann wrote:
Secret are just so good, amazing to watch. They look better than Alliance 2013

They look less irritating than Alliance 2013.

Secret look so tough to beat. Early on I thought iG was doing pretty well, but didn't shut down the AM and had no real way to handle him. Well played by RTZ.

Am was shut down hard early on .. he could not even hit a creep he was just baiting them to stun and he was gonna dodge it with blink most of the time

although the secret space creation was pretty good afterwards

Considering that 4 minutes in AM had more money than bristleback, i would say that AM was not shut down.


I've missed first 22 mins of the game and the "shutting AM down" part comes to me as a surprise since at 23 mins he had BF, PT, Vlad's, Yasha and Manta on it's way.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
June 21 2015 12:28 GMT
#715
lmao arteezy going on youtube during the draft
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 21 2015 12:29 GMT
#716
Lol rtz just went on youtube and put on something
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
June 21 2015 12:29 GMT
#717
On June 21 2015 21:26 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I don't understand when EG beating slumping VG and heavy-reliant on pocket strats VP became equal of being undisputed top3 team in the world, honestly.

the silencer carry outdraft made VP looks so good that they forgot everything that happened like 1-2 months ago and just because of 1 series they started calling vp at least top 3 in the world

aka bandwagoning

On June 21 2015 21:19 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 21:17 goody153 wrote:
nahaz with the stats .. seriously though rtz isn't impressive because he can farm he is impressive cause he can farm while being under pressure most of the time (that's like his signature as a player getting ganked , being dual laned and shit)

aside from that, he creates pressure more efficiently than any other carry, farming in the most dangerous but still safe locations and finding picks

it's like what envy wishes he could do

he does know how to capitalize his farm .. envy used to know how to do the farming on the dangerous areas but he gets sufficient lanesupport now and does not do those shit anymore
this is a quote
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 12:29:35
June 21 2015 12:29 GMT
#718
On June 21 2015 21:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 21:26 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I don't understand when EG beating slumping VG and heavy-reliant on pocket strats VP became equal of being undisputed top3 team in the world, honestly.

Will pull an Azarkon's fallacy here: bbbbbut iG have never beaten EG in BoX series after DAC!

Well, iG haven't been knocked out by LC on LAN either, huehue.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
June 21 2015 12:29 GMT
#719
On June 21 2015 21:27 Dysisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 21:21 lolnoty wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:19 Racket wrote:
On June 21 2015 21:17 rabidch wrote:
EG secret is going to be the navi alliance this year

Then I hope EG wins, if EG equals NaVI

secret has way more fans, they are easily old NaVi

it's super fashionable to hate EG so they are Alliance

EG also has the worst fans right now, comparable to Alliance back then.


Secret is literally Na'Vi + A + EG, i can't see how EG has worse fans
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 21 2015 12:29 GMT
#720
Techies incoming.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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