EPT[ESL ONE] Frankfurt Main Event Day 2 - Page 35
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goody153
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:12 lolnoty wrote: wasn't really a draft win 430 lost his lane way too hard against s4, he's a super veteran and knew he didnt have any support, should have just played super safe luo probably shouldnt have died solo either, but I imagine he doesnt have 1v1 experience against tusk The other 2 lanes outside the aggro trilane really screwed IG's early game momentum. Maybe it would of been a different game if it went better those 2 lanes, but I dunno. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:15 Danzo wrote: Ok calm down there. Let's not forget EG is still around  relax newbee are gonna be back to back champions easy | ||
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LethalBacon
Spain355 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:16 lolfail9001 wrote: Considering that 4 minutes in AM had more money than bristleback, i would say that AM was not shut down. It's undenniable that he was having a hard time top, and bristle just died to the tusk in bot (for some reason?) so the comparison its not totally legit maybe | ||
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goody153
44132 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:16 lolfail9001 wrote: Considering that 4 minutes in AM had more money than bristleback, i would say that AM was not shut down. that was on luo's fault i'm not sure how he lost really hard to a tusk lane also compared to BB he was really having a tough lane top unless you disregard the fact that he just dies when goes close to the creepwave | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:17 goody153 wrote: nahaz with the stats .. seriously though rtz isn't impressive because he can farm he is impressive cause he can farm while being under pressure most of the time (that's like his signature as a player getting ganked , being dual laned and shit) he needs to deliver at TI though before people will be behind him completely. Hard to forget that Naga game where he got ganked a zillion times. But I guess Puppey and the others can steer him on Secret, help with positioning? | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:17 goody153 wrote: that was on luo's fault i'm not sure how he lost really hard to a tusk lane lu0 shows up at the worst times | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:17 goody153 wrote: nahaz with the stats .. seriously though rtz isn't impressive because he can farm he is impressive cause he can farm while being under pressure most of the time (that's like his signature as a player getting ganked , being dual laned and shit) aside from that, he creates pressure more efficiently than any other carry, farming in the most dangerous but still safe locations and finding picks it's like what envy wishes he could do | ||
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Terrorbladder
2718 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:12 LimitSEA wrote: You feel they're less irritating because Alliance's good run began from February straight until TI, but Secret's good run only began from May when they finally snatched the first LAN title.They look less irritating than Alliance 2013. Secret look so tough to beat. Early on I thought iG was doing pretty well, but didn't shut down the AM and had no real way to handle him. Well played by RTZ. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:17 rabidch wrote: EG secret is going to be the navi alliance this year Then I hope EG wins, if EG equals NaVI | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:13 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: storm can't escape nearly as easily; one venge wave on a kotl recall and he's dead What ought to have happened for iG was - their trilane prevents AM from farming for 10-15 minutes, then they push towers and AM has to split because he's useless in fights, then KOTL base defense while iG farms around the map and then brute forces through AM with their late game cores after Leshrac gets a sheep. Instead AM had free farm for 10-15 minutes because they had to rotate mid in order to prevent SF from becoming completely useless. Got ahead by 5-10k $ at 20-25 minutes, and then took over the game before iG is able to farm items. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:19 Terrorbladder wrote: You feel they're less irritating because Alliance's good run began from February straight until TI, but Secret's good run only began from May when they finally snatched the first LAN title. also their playstyle is a bit less frustrating | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:17 LethalBacon wrote: It's undenniable that he was having a hard time top, and bristle just died to the tusk in bot (for some reason?) so the comparison its not totally legit maybe I think IG panicked and broke their lanes too early, their trilane started dominating but instead of pushing their only advantage they went left and right helping mid and bot, losing a lot of time. | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
secret has way more fans, they are easily old NaVi it's super fashionable to hate EG so they are Alliance | ||
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goody153
44132 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:18 LemOn wrote: he needs to deliver at TI though before people will be behind him completely. Hard to forget that Naga game where he got ganked a zillion times his laning stage was super good though ,, he was pushing naga to the limit and he won against a lich-LS dual lane i don't think anybody can easily do that that was xiao8 on doom mate ..that was nothing but xiao8 smart rotations that rekt him so hard if you watched naga has to farm and he was doing it on the dire jungle which was not safe since he's whole team was radiant most of the time | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:19 opterown wrote: also their playstyle is a bit less frustrating This. I've never been a fan of ratting, and it was beyond frustrating watching it so often in 2013. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:19 opterown wrote: also their playstyle is a bit less frustrating yeah alliance won through resource management/ strategy Secret just flat out outplays teams even with worse drafts Why I think it won't be surprising if they won't win TI- they rely on skill a lot more than Alliance did and you can always have a bad day/game | ||
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goody153
44132 Posts
On June 21 2015 21:19 Terrorbladder wrote: You feel they're less irritating because Alliance's good run began from February straight until TI, but Secret's good run only began from May when they finally snatched the first LAN title. are you sure a 3rd place run at DAC is bad ? that doesn't sound bad to me considering it's the second biggest tournament of the year(TI year) for a first showing .. but if you put hype on their roster surely it's not enough | ||
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