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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On March 22 2014 21:47 ahswtini wrote: Do neutrals only deny a hero if multiple enemies had damaged that hero? Similarly to how radiant/dire kills work? Nope, if the kiling blow is done by a neutral, it's always credited to neutrals | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On March 22 2014 20:06 Belisarius wrote: Ah, that's probably what's been making it look inconsistent. How are the assists calculated, exactly? Any hero that has damaged the target since... some time window? Or since full HP? Pretty sure it's time. You can get assists for doing a single right hit, and I think even stuff like 1 tick of radiance aura. Assists don't have any real game impact though. As was said already, you get gold and exp for being there when a kill happens, even without doing anything. | ||
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omgbbqsauce
106 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 23 2014 05:19 omgbbqsauce wrote: How do you lane against butcher as a sf? (in terms of item choice, rush boots or rush bottle and jz spam razes w/ bottle crow? ) 1. Don't get hooked. 2. Win. At some point you will probably get hooked tho, but it doesn't matter. Why do you need to bottle crow against Pudge, lol? He can't do shit to SF if you're playing matchup right. Just get some souls at start, because Pudge base damage is way higher, after 10-12 souls you will just dominate and Pudge will go roam anyway, so you can follow him or get tower and then follow. Ah, and rune control is welcome, because if Pudge gets something like haste-dd in same time and feast you, then life will be sad. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
On March 23 2014 05:19 omgbbqsauce wrote: How do you lane against butcher as a sf? (in terms of item choice, rush boots or rush bottle and jz spam razes w/ bottle crow? ) I think for this once you should probably ask for a lane ward. Especially since you're sf and sure, you can get smoke ganked but at the very minimum it lets you predict ganks a bit better (usually you'll see pudge standing a lot more aggressively/risky or trying really hard to pull the wave across the river) and most importantly you cannot possibly get hooked with a laneward. Other than that just remember to farm your jungle because the last thing you want to do is stay in the lane for the entire time later on because you will get ganked. edit: as you play more you probably wont need the lane ward anymore but definitely for starters its a nice luxury to have so you dont feed  | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On March 23 2014 05:19 omgbbqsauce wrote: How do you lane against butcher as a sf? (in terms of item choice, rush boots or rush bottle and jz spam razes w/ bottle crow? ) Any competent sf player will destroy a Pudge unless he gets some lucky runes assuming no roams. Its a no contest. Its like sf vs mirana matchup. You are suppose to dominate the lane, but your opponent can solo kill you if you make a mistake. The most important thing is not let your early advantage slip away because of 1 hook. So buy your own lane ward for night time. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 23 2014 16:21 DucK- wrote: The most important thing is not let your early advantage slip away because of 1 hook. So buy your own lane ward for night time. Incidentally, the first night time being 4 min to 8 min is actually pretty awkward because if support didn't give you one of the 0 min wards, there's like 1-1.5 min where he's level 6, its night time, and you can't have a ward yet for him. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 23 2014 14:49 evilfatsh1t wrote: pudge wins the lane against sf if both players are equal in skill. not sure why youre making it out to look like sf has the advantage. if sf screws up his first block he will almost insta lose the lane. if he also fails to manage his creep equilibrium before the rune times he will lose his lane. as sf if you are caught out at the river or in the opponents side you will almost always die, unless youve already hit lvl 5 and can just 2 raze and right click pudge from full hp You know, if RTZ says that SF crushes TA, i don't see a single reason why SF should lose to Pudge, even if they're even in skill. There is very little amount of heroes who can stand against SF with bunch of souls and Pudge isn't one of them. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
On March 23 2014 22:27 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: You know, if RTZ says that SF crushes TA, i don't see a single reason why SF should lose to Pudge, even if they're even in skill. There is very little amount of heroes who can stand against SF with bunch of souls and Pudge isn't one of them. rtz is also one of the strongest mid players in the game. he can play sf and crush anyone and if were going by "what pros said", then the pros saying pudge has an advantage over sf outweigh the pros who say sf wins no shit if you leave sf to farm his souls youre going to lose. if you give him that time then you are bad because you dont understand the matchup. youre supposed to abuse the fact that he has shit damage and shit hp during the first 2-3 lvls. pudge is one of the few heroes that can punch on at lvl 2-3 and win against most heroes, let alone a sf | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
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TheEmulator
28100 Posts
On March 23 2014 21:05 Andre wrote: Lowest I've seen was ~3,8k, on average its about 5k. If you're at or above 5k you should be hitting page 1 multiple times a day. Usually a 5k+ player won't be any higher than page 4-5 (although it happens once in a while). The 3.8k you saw was probably in a party, or he got really lucky and was in a big search range. My main ranked account right now is 5.1k, but I've also been playing another account that is 4.8 that started at around 4.2k. When it was 4.2 I don't think I was below page 10 more than a couple of times, and more in the 15-30 area. So to answer the other guys question once you're at least 4.5k you will probably be hitting page 1 occasionally, and once you're 5k you will be hitting it consistently. You can hit it when lower but it's unlikely. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 23 2014 23:03 evilfatsh1t wrote: rtz is also one of the strongest mid players in the game. he can play sf and crush anyone and if were going by "what pros said", then the pros saying pudge has an advantage over sf outweigh the pros who say sf wins no shit if you leave sf to farm his souls youre going to lose. if you give him that time then you are bad because you dont understand the matchup. youre supposed to abuse the fact that he has shit damage and shit hp during the first 2-3 lvls. pudge is one of the few heroes that can punch on at lvl 2-3 and win against most heroes, let alone a sf Game isn't over after 2-3 levels. SF can comeback, Pudge can't. That the difference. And Pudge to be useful will go roam, so SF will come back no matter what. Even if he doesn't have the ward and overextend to lose early to Pudge. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
SF vs. melee actually becomes quite comfortable if he passes the point where the melee in question cannot solo kill him. Pudge can, but if he doesn't make good on those opportunities, SF can get by. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 24 2014 04:30 Qbek wrote: Pudge doesn't really win any mid matchups if he doesn't get a hook or good rune That's not true. There are several vs. melee Bottle-Crow matchups that Pudge can control comfortably against heroes with significantly weaker level 1/2 because those heroes have to either choose between not starting a Stout Shield (and getting crushed off the lane at level 1) or delaying their Bottle long enough that Pudge can use his strong level 3 timing. | ||
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