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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 19 2014 20:16 GMT
#16221
It can be part of the combo but it doesn't have to be (especially when you simply use it to get in range). The core "shotgun" is eblade + strike. The fact that e-blade does amplify waveform damage should definitely be mentioned though, you are correct.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 19 2014 20:38 GMT
#16222
MadMortigan, I believe, is the father of the term "Shotgun" to describe the (Linkens) Eblade Morphling.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 19 2014 20:45 GMT
#16223
Unless you're extremely ahead or the other team's supports are clueless, waveform is an integral part of the shotgun when you fist obtain eblade, since it accounts for a good quarter of the damage
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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 20 2014 05:29 GMT
#16224
I was playing a game as visage. I use my familiars to stun/kill OD, but there was a team fight breaking out, so i forgot about the birds. While they were still on the ground undying casted tombstone. When I remembered them they had lost about 1/3 of their health to zombies (they were lvl 1 birds, so they couldn't have gotten many stacks. I'm not even sure if the zombie slow goes through magic immunity). There was a creep wave there, so there were lots of zombies. When I tried to move the birds, they were locked in place. I'm pretty sure they rotated, like heroes do when they are entangeled, but they didn't fly away.

Any reason why? Does it have to do with the bug of couriers getting stuck in camps? (which also happened that game)

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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
March 20 2014 05:42 GMT
#16225
what are the best heroes/game plans for countering early 5 man push strats?
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 20 2014 06:01 GMT
#16226
Kotl. Tinker. Furion to name a few.
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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
March 20 2014 08:25 GMT
#16227
On March 20 2014 15:01 icystorage wrote:
Kotl. Tinker. Furion to name a few.


I actually don't really like furion (alone) as a counter to 5 man push. If you have a furion and you're up against a 5 man push strat, unless you have a kotl or a tinker or something as well, the furion pick just means your team is down a man to defend against the push, and your furion is not going to out splitpush a 5 man push lineup at 20 minutes in.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 08:32:19
March 20 2014 08:30 GMT
#16228
yeah i was referring kotl + tinker + furion :D

but kotl+tinker is enough. and you are right about 4v5 if furion split push.
but if the other 4 can hold (spam spells) then furion is a nice counter.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 20 2014 11:04 GMT
#16229
Yeah I find 9/10 times I need to waveform to finish off someone I just shotgunned.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Fake)Plants
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States373 Posts
March 20 2014 13:57 GMT
#16230
Do all of Spirit Breaker's spells / stuns go through BKB?
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 13:59:07
March 20 2014 13:58 GMT
#16231
Yes.

Longer answer: your Charge's inbuilt stun and damage is blocked but the Greater Bash that it applies is not blocked.
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Fake)Plants
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States373 Posts
March 20 2014 14:15 GMT
#16232
Ah, ok. Thank you.

I was playing as PA against a SB and this would explain him bashlording me. He rocked me mid game. I suppose blur does not affect the greater bash hit chance?
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 20 2014 14:17 GMT
#16233
The bashes on spells are not dodgeable
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Tuco
Profile Joined September 2010
China200 Posts
March 20 2014 15:09 GMT
#16234
Watching SLIX iG vs DK I noticed people midas the smaller creeps in camps instead of the bigger ones... why is that?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 20 2014 15:10 GMT
#16235
On March 21 2014 00:09 Tuco wrote:
Watching SLIX iG vs DK I noticed people midas the smaller creeps in camps instead of the bigger ones... why is that?

midasing smaller creeps= more gold, slower kill speed
midasing larger creeps = more exp, faster kill peed
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 20 2014 16:28 GMT
#16236
On March 21 2014 00:09 Tuco wrote:
Watching SLIX iG vs DK I noticed people midas the smaller creeps in camps instead of the bigger ones... why is that?

Because midas on smaller creeps is still almost a doubling amount of xp from camp and up to doubling+ gold gain from camp. While midas on large creeps is essentially creep wave + worth of xp and only +~60% gold from camp. Essentially depends on what you want much more: levels or gold.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 20 2014 16:36 GMT
#16237
I think Qbek was more accurate, more succinct, and more comprehensible.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 20 2014 18:38 GMT
#16238
Early game when you don't kill big creeps as quickly, and also when experience and levels are more important, you midas the big creeps.

Late game when it's all about the money, midas the weakest creeps, as they still give the fixed 190 midas bounty.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
March 20 2014 19:29 GMT
#16239
On March 19 2014 16:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 16:26 Rodberd wrote:
i cant see pings or map-drawings when i spectate games.
but why? havent changed my settings at all, and i cant find any setting ingame which might influence this.

am i the only one with this issue or are there more ppl? or did some1 had this aswell and solved it somehow?


Make sure you verify the integrity of your game cache.


verified and still no change

On March 19 2014 21:34 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 16:26 Rodberd wrote:
i cant see pings or map-drawings when i spectate games.
but why? havent changed my settings at all, and i cant find any setting ingame which might influence this.

am i the only one with this issue or are there more ppl? or did some1 had this aswell and solved it somehow?

Pings and drawings on DotaTV haven't worked for a while now, not sure if they plan to fix it. They should work fine when you're "casting" a game live.


well, casting a game isnt possible if you are a ticketholder and just have the option to spectate
butt well, knowing thats an known issue helps me a little bit.
but i still somehow miss it when singsing is drawing dongs on the minimap.
Ooooh, look at it go
ReligionLOL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 05:23:51
March 21 2014 05:22 GMT
#16240
I want to make an item build (guide thing in dota2) that instantly applies / is the selected item build for ALL dota2 heros I play. Is this possible via console or some other means?

edit: I dont want advice or input as to if you think this is a good idea or not for me to do, I am simply looking for information as to the application of this.
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
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