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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On February 27 2014 10:10 Ayaz2810 wrote: Who is the player who's name is made of up arrows, down arrows, and left/right arrows? I see him playing a lot, and he seems pretty good. http://dotabuff.com/players/2096312 Veldt pretty good EUW queuer. Think he's russian | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On February 27 2014 15:27 NB wrote: Since when invoker tornado no longer purge windwalk? I remember being able to purge invis off the likes of BH and clinkz. That was just a bug in really early Beta, it got fixed in early Beta too. | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
and in general for evasion stacking is there a formula? | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 27 2014 18:51 idonthinksobro wrote: brewmaster 3rd skill ingame tooltip says it doesn't stack with evasion but wasn't it changed so it stacks with diminishing returns? Also it says dodge and not evasion is it the same thing? and in general for evasion stacking is there a formula? Void's backtrack isn't evasion. Just copied from steamcommunity's thread about evasion: "It stacks diminishingly. The whole point of this is so that you CANNOT get above 100%. Just assume you're stacking BF's. If they stacked regularly (not diminishingly), you would just need 3 BF to reach max. Obviously it doesn't make any sense to have a greater than 100% percent chance to dodge something that happens at one time. So they stack them diminishingly (which is how everything in real life stacks-- if you flip a coin twice you don't have a 100% chance of getting a heads, you have a 75% chance). This means, that the first BFLY gives you the full 35% evasion. This means you are hit by 100-35=65% of the attacks. The next BFLY reduces this 65% chance of getting hit by a further 35% = 42.25% chance of being hit or 57.75% chance of dodging at attack. The third BFLY reduces this 42.25% chance of getting hit by further 35% which is 42.25*.65 = .65^3 = 27.46% chance of getting hit or 72.54% chance of evading an attack. For your Xth butterfly (X is any number), you have have a (.65)^N chance of getting hit or a 1-(.65)^N chance of evading. More generally, for any percentage evasion based effect (BFly, PA evasion, etc), let us call the dodge chance from each D1, D2, ... DN; where N is the number of evasion sources; and each D ranges from 0-1 (which represents 0 to 100% evasion offered). The total chance of getting hit is P(hit) = (1-D1)*(1-D2)*(1-D3)...*(1-DN) The total chance of dodging is P(dodge) = 1-P(hit) = 1-(1-D1)*(1-D2)...*(1-DN). If you want to plug in like 6bfly or 100bfly or whatever combination you want you will never reach 100%. You will get close, but never reach it. This is the 'diminishing' effect. " Credit to johnbordeln. | ||
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valheru
Australia966 Posts
On February 27 2014 18:51 idonthinksobro wrote: brewmaster 3rd skill ingame tooltip says it doesn't stack with evasion but wasn't it changed so it stacks with diminishing returns? Also it says dodge and not evasion is it the same thing? and in general for evasion stacking is there a formula? http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Brewmaster wiki says it stacks now post 6.79 the wiki is generally pretty good on this stuff For a formula. chance to get hit = (1 - one source of evasion) times (1 - other source of evasion) ... and so on Treating evasion as a probability. If you maxed drunken brawler (0.25) and had a butterfly (0.35) you would end up with 51.25% evasion (0.4875 chance to actually get hit). but for the love of got don't get a butterfly on brew he isn't a carry | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On February 27 2014 20:24 valheru wrote: http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Brewmaster wiki says it stacks now post 6.79 the wiki is generally pretty good on this stuff For a formula. chance to get hit = (1 - one source of evasion) times (1 - other source of evasion) ... and so on Treating evasion as a probability. If you maxed drunken brawler (0.25) and had a butterfly (0.35) you would end up with 51.25% evasion (0.4875 chance to actually get hit). but for the love of got don't get a butterfly on brew he isn't a carry Pretty sure he was thinking about HH and not bfly.. | ||
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Tuco
China200 Posts
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On February 27 2014 21:05 DrPandaPhD wrote: Pretty sure he was thinking about HH and not bfly.. in fact i got a hh in my last game but the tooltip was confusing as it seems to be just wrong. | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On February 27 2014 21:51 idonthinksobro wrote: in fact i got a hh in my last game but the tooltip was confusing as it seems to be just wrong. It is normal for Valve to forget changing tooltips with every patch. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 27 2014 21:36 Tuco wrote: Can Rubick steal supernova while pheonix is supernova-ing? No, only after reborn if it happens. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On February 27 2014 21:36 Tuco wrote: Can Rubick steal supernova while pheonix is supernova-ing? supernova phoenix isn't targetable by spells (coded like a ward) | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On February 27 2014 20:24 valheru wrote: but for the love of got don't get a butterfly on brew he isn't a carry He's not in the Void/PL sense, but he's not actually terrible at right click damage. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 28 2014 05:50 LuckoftheIrish wrote: He's not in the Void/PL sense, but he's not actually terrible at right click damage. Except for the fact that you want to be spending teamfights in ultimate so items that help you right click cease existing for the better part of most teamfights. RIP 6000 gold, I hope u weren't needed. I mean, sure he has an innate critical strike but cmon. | ||
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goody153
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Naga and PL both farm approximately 100% of the map, they can't coexist sucessfully. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On February 28 2014 05:52 Sn0_Man wrote: Except for the fact that you want to be spending teamfights in ultimate so items that help you right click cease existing for the better part of most teamfights. RIP 6000 gold, I hope u weren't needed. I mean, sure he has an innate critical strike but cmon. Well, Vlad's and AC definitely help with right clicks, and both are pretty decent on Panda, especially if you don't have a better AC carrier. And Panda with AC doesn't suck at hitting things. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On February 28 2014 05:54 goody153 wrote: Anyone knows a pro game where PL and Naga were drafted by the same team and they are played as cores ? (not the naga support but the radiance rush naga) link of the game would be nice.. thanks If you were going to look for this I'd start by looking at SEA Dota, and specifically Philippine Dota 1 matches. You probably won't find the Radiance rush Naga with PL, but you might find a Radiance PL with a fast Diffusal Naga. Granted, those will probably be pre-Riptide Nagas, but I think that's the closest you'll get. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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