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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On February 09 2014 01:27 tauon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 22:54 lolfail9001 wrote:On February 08 2014 22:00 nojok wrote:On February 08 2014 21:47 lolfail9001 wrote:On February 08 2014 16:33 tauon wrote:
I think on spectre the vit booster is better when going radiance but the drum is better when going yasha/diffusal builds. This is because illusions in the radiance build rely on the aura for their damage. Radiance illusions don't really need move speed because they have 400 base. For diff blade builds, more move speed means more illusion hits and this makes move speed a more useful stat in that situation. For diff blade builds all you need is yasha and BoT that translates into max movespeed and impossibility to run away from spectre herself if dagger hits you. 7K worth of items not providing a single hp, not good. Orb of venom is cheap and damn good before you get diffu and manta. Hehehe, i personally go diffusal refresher BoT yasha almost every game on spec lately. Who cares about HP if you are not going to be in a fight and your illusions are tankier than any other illusions by design. And, yes OoV is sick good, i sometimes even bother going skadi first item on spec if i really want to mess around. If you just want to split push, there are better carries then spectre. The point of spectre's ulti is that she can join fights anywhere on the map and she can do tricks like fight->die->buyback->haunt.
I do not split push. I just farm and if there is a fight my team gets initiation off i just double haunt and perhaps reality in. Double haunt HURTS if enemies do not clump up.
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refresher's actually pretty legit
but radiance does more damage than diffusal and makes you farm way faster
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On February 09 2014 05:06 Dead9 wrote:
refresher's actually pretty legit
but radiance does more damage than diffusal and makes you farm way faster
Radiance does similar damage as diffusal (after you have BoT and yasha so haunties have no problems hitting target),considering that it frees up slot for another ethereal blade. He does make you farm way faster, but that's item i will only get if i manage to get 4k gold before 14 minutes (after boot + optional OoV/stick) since it is only gets more powerful the earlier you get it.
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Is there any way to permanently set camera hotkeys to only go to that position while holding that key, instead of staying there? I've managed to make it work but everytime i restart dota it stops working.
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theres a file in your steam folder that has all the bindings for dota. you can edit the file so that you can bind whatever you want to whatever command. theres a more detailed guide somewhere on tl i believe
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On February 09 2014 06:44 Obelisco wrote:
Is there any way to permanently set camera hotkeys to only go to that position while holding that key, instead of staying there? I've managed to make it work but everytime i restart dota it stops working.
Just add the relevant commands (the ones you typed in console to make it work) into your autoexec.cfg file. This file is usually located in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\dota 2 beta\dota\cfg. If it's not there, just create it.
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I've already tried that. So far I've managed to get these working
+ Show Spoiler +bind "F2" "dota_camera_setpos -2273.898682 1232.745483 982.072876" // Top Rune
bind "F3" "dota_camera_setpos 3035.773438 -2972.680176 966.072937" // Bot Rune
but what i really want are these ones
+ Show Spoiler +alias "+toprune" "dota_camera_setpos -2273.898682 1232.745483 982.072876"
alias "-toprune" "+dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow; +dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow"
alias "+botrune" "dota_camera_setpos 3035.773438 -2972.680176 966.072937"
alias "-botrune" "+dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow; +dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow"
bind "F2" "+toprune"
bind "F3" "+botrune"
These last ones make it so the camera is only at the rune spots while i'm holding that key and return back to my hero afterwards. However, when i restart dota they stop working, and everytime i type f2 or f3 it gives me an error in the console saying "unknown +top/botrune".
On the file in the autoexec, i only find the bind "f2" "+top/botrune" (if i use these lasts commands), not the positions when i bind them the other way.
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On February 10 2014 00:11 Obelisco wrote:I've already tried that. So far I've managed to get these working + Show Spoiler +bind "F2" "dota_camera_setpos -2273.898682 1232.745483 982.072876" // Top Rune
bind "F3" "dota_camera_setpos 3035.773438 -2972.680176 966.072937" // Bot Rune but what i really want are these ones + Show Spoiler +alias "+toprune" "dota_camera_setpos -2273.898682 1232.745483 982.072876"
alias "-toprune" "+dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow; +dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow"
alias "+botrune" "dota_camera_setpos 3035.773438 -2972.680176 966.072937"
alias "-botrune" "+dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow; +dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow"
bind "F2" "+toprune"
bind "F3" "+botrune" These last ones make it so the camera is only at the rune spots while i'm holding that key and return back to my hero afterwards. However, when i restart dota they stop working, and everytime i type f2 or f3 it gives me an error in the console saying "unknown +top/botrune". On the file in the autoexec, i only find the bind "f2" "+top/botrune" (if i use these lasts commands), not the positions when i bind them the other way.
Then type them into the autoexec yourself..?
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i have seen this a couple of times already, is weaver without boots legit? I have seen pros get aquila, linkens, and deso before even thinking about boots, somettimes they even stay completly bootless and just stack more damage items. I'm aware that lvl 4 shukuchi gives an insane speed boost but it seems so wrong every single time.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On February 10 2014 01:50 idonthinksobro wrote:
i have seen this a couple of times already, is weaver without boots legit? I have seen pros get aquila, linkens, and deso before even thinking about boots, somettimes they even stay completly bootless and just stack more damage items. I'm aware that lvl 4 shukuchi gives an insane speed boost but it seems so wrong every single time.
shukuchi gives haste and it is up most of the relevant time, hence you can risk delaying boots.
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It depends on the game--when you have to fight, what heroes are a threat to you, whether or not the MS advantage impacts laning, etc.
I don't think I'd ever not get them in a pub game though. In scenarios where you're not freefarmed, the 50 ms actually has a relevant impact on how lanes play, particularly at lower levels when you can't use Shukuchi that freely because of the longer CD.
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I've started going no boots on weaver and I have yet to regret it. It is rare that a shukuchi isn't enough to get you out of trouble unless you are using it to be aggressive, but then that's more of the problem than no boots.
The point is that I have a hard time thinking of a situation when 50 ms can save you and a wrathband/basillius/RoH would not. I guess if you are laning vs, or scared of being ganked by, a silence, but even then most of the silences have slows too, making the move speed not matter. Kind of just leaves DP and puck, and even puck has dream coil.
I should say "ways to inhibit movement" rather than slows. BS has ult, and disruptor has the fence.
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Boots let you be way more aggresive early game, bugs and geminate allow for insane dps with just aquila, boots let you sustain that dps long enough to kill. Works mostly in 1v1 lanes obv
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Why there is no backdoor protection on T1s?
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On February 10 2014 03:31 hacklebeast wrote:
The point is that I have a hard time thinking of a situation when 50 ms can save you and a wrathband/basillius/RoH would not. I guess if you are laning vs, or scared of being ganked by, a silence, but even then most of the silences have slows too, making the move speed not matter. Kind of just leaves DP and puck, and even puck has dream coil.
The thing is laning has a lot of situations where you're just trading autos and most heroes you'll lane against as Weaver either have a slight range advantage over you (ranged heroes) or a slight range disadvantage but slight MS advantage (most melee heroes). You generally just make autoattack trades better with the MS advantage from boots (since you can chase for an extra hit against ranged or walk away with MS advantage against melees), and low level Shukuchi CD is long enough that not every autoattack trade allows using it against an opponent playing the lane well (they'll be hitting you way more often than once every 10-12s).
These scenarios aren't relevant as often in pro games because safe lane freefarm typically doesn't create scenarios where this matters. But in pub games you don't get safe lane freefarm of that quality so often.
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aren't boots super cost efficient compared to most other items? treads is amongst the cheapest attack speed items in the game so i thought it is logical to go for treads regardless, especially since you don't have slot issues on weaver.
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On February 10 2014 01:45 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 00:11 Obelisco wrote:I've already tried that. So far I've managed to get these working + Show Spoiler +bind "F2" "dota_camera_setpos -2273.898682 1232.745483 982.072876" // Top Rune
bind "F3" "dota_camera_setpos 3035.773438 -2972.680176 966.072937" // Bot Rune but what i really want are these ones + Show Spoiler +alias "+toprune" "dota_camera_setpos -2273.898682 1232.745483 982.072876"
alias "-toprune" "+dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow; +dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow"
alias "+botrune" "dota_camera_setpos 3035.773438 -2972.680176 966.072937"
alias "-botrune" "+dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow; +dota_camera_follow; -dota_camera_follow"
bind "F2" "+toprune"
bind "F3" "+botrune" These last ones make it so the camera is only at the rune spots while i'm holding that key and return back to my hero afterwards. However, when i restart dota they stop working, and everytime i type f2 or f3 it gives me an error in the console saying "unknown +top/botrune". On the file in the autoexec, i only find the bind "f2" "+top/botrune" (if i use these lasts commands), not the positions when i bind them the other way. Then type them into the autoexec yourself..?
The alias part disappears everytime i start dota2
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On February 10 2014 03:31 hacklebeast wrote:
I've started going no boots on weaver and I have yet to regret it. It is rare that a shukuchi isn't enough to get you out of trouble unless you are using it to be aggressive, but then that's more of the problem than no boots.
The point is that I have a hard time thinking of a situation when 50 ms can save you and a wrathband/basillius/RoH would not. I guess if you are laning vs, or scared of being ganked by, a silence, but even then most of the silences have slows too, making the move speed not matter. Kind of just leaves DP and puck, and even puck has dream coil.
I should say "ways to inhibit movement" rather than slows. BS has ult, and disruptor has the fence.
Agree about the influence of 50 ms in laningstage. Makes me wonder why we dont see euls first sometimes (instead of boots), some heros could benefit alot from euls first and the subitems (attackdamage, manapool and manaregen for 10ms decline and only 1300 more gold).
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On February 10 2014 08:13 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 03:31 hacklebeast wrote:
I've started going no boots on weaver and I have yet to regret it. It is rare that a shukuchi isn't enough to get you out of trouble unless you are using it to be aggressive, but then that's more of the problem than no boots.
The point is that I have a hard time thinking of a situation when 50 ms can save you and a wrathband/basillius/RoH would not. I guess if you are laning vs, or scared of being ganked by, a silence, but even then most of the silences have slows too, making the move speed not matter. Kind of just leaves DP and puck, and even puck has dream coil.
I should say "ways to inhibit movement" rather than slows. BS has ult, and disruptor has the fence. Agree about the influence of 50 ms in laningstage. Makes me wonder why we dont see euls first sometimes (instead of boots), some heros could benefit alot from euls first and the subitems (attackdamage, manapool and manaregen for 10ms decline and only 1300 more gold).
You mean 2250 more gold? When it's 6x the value of the item you are comparing it to, and you only get the wanted benefit when you finish it, it's not a good alternative. You want boots fast.
Also, Euls doesn't give you attack damage (unless you count the int for int heroes).
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On February 10 2014 03:31 hacklebeast wrote:
I've started going no boots on weaver and I have yet to regret it. It is rare that a shukuchi isn't enough to get you out of trouble unless you are using it to be aggressive, but then that's more of the problem than no boots.
The point is that I have a hard time thinking of a situation when 50 ms can save you and a wrathband/basillius/RoH would not. I guess if you are laning vs, or scared of being ganked by, a silence, but even then most of the silences have slows too, making the move speed not matter. Kind of just leaves DP and puck, and even puck has dream coil.
I should say "ways to inhibit movement" rather than slows. BS has ult, and disruptor has the fence.
I remember when I watched artstyle play slardar and he took forever to buy boots, most likely for the same reason.
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