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govie
9334 Posts
On January 05 2014 07:50 Pingvinen wrote: Oh, i see. Embarrassing. Thought he followed it up, and it didnt make sense. Im not arguing, just questioning the older answer because it made sence i felt. | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
Then again, if you're playing LD, you don't want to get to that situation. Especially if you're the team's hardest carry. | ||
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Verror
261 Posts
Does any1 know of a vod or replay of high level teams successfully BOTH going mass necro book into the late game? Thanks! | ||
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
On January 05 2014 03:42 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Argument about faster farming because you have higher ms almost made me laugh. Good work. you dont see how having higher ms helps you farm faster? | ||
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2847 Posts
I always go bottle --> arcanes --> blink. Most of the time I use my 3 branches to get a wand. After this I almost always get drums. Now after blink I stop farming and just fight with my team but if your somewhat effective you can really rack up a lot of farm with mag. I tend to get a perseverance to stay on map and about 80 % of the time I get a refresher after that. But it doesn't really seem that much more effective. I've gone the bfury full out farming style and just 6 slot and become a carry, it works but usually the game is won either way by that point. It just seem like you keep bringing in at least decent farm as magnus if you pay just a little attention and there's nothing that's awesome to spend it on as you have everything you need at that point already. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8915 Posts
shivas/hex is good too if you need it. assault cuirass is a good choice as well. pretty much anything your team needs, be it vlads/pipes/ac/shivas/hex/refresher etc theres pretty much no bad item on him since hes so versatile | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On January 05 2014 23:17 me_viet wrote: you dont see how having higher ms helps you farm faster? No. Can you clarify? Because usually you're using tps and not running for creeps on whole map. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
I'm really surprised btw that almost noone is playing him as melee dps in DotA 2, and even less are playing him not on middle as farming rhino. | ||
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vndestiny
Singapore3457 Posts
On January 06 2014 01:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: No. Can you clarify? Because usually you're using tps and not running for creeps on whole map. I'm crying with tears right now lol. You're so funny  | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Right? | ||
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Excludos
Norway8277 Posts
And lets destroy this myth once and for all. You do NOT tp from lane to lane when farming. Thats almost the entire creepwave wasted on the tp you just used to get there, not to mention the 60 sec cooldown. What you can do is use a tp to stop a lane from pushing, and pushing it to the enemy tower instead, gaining farm in the process. | ||
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
On January 06 2014 01:21 PassiveAce wrote: so if movespeed does not improve farming speed at all, then presumably a hero moving between lane and jungle with 150 movespeed will farm just as quickly as a hero with 522 all other things equal? Right? Also Anti-Mage with Battlefury who has a great mobility with low cooldown blink farms as fast as Juggernaut with Battlefury, right? EDIT: Added Battlefury for Anti-Mage, I did not realize that it was lacking :p | ||
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Excludos
Norway8277 Posts
On January 06 2014 01:34 Oukka wrote: Also Anti-Mage who has a great mobility with low cooldown blink farms as fast as Juggernaut with Battlefury, right? Why doesn't the am have a battlefury? Am with bf is one of if not the fastest farmer in the pool EXACTLY because of his high mobility and low blink cooldown. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8277 Posts
On January 06 2014 01:38 PassiveAce wrote: he is agreeing with us excludos :p Oh. I thought it was sarcasm :p | ||
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
I'm wordless | ||
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Excludos
Norway8277 Posts
You're mean  | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On January 06 2014 01:21 PassiveAce wrote: so if movespeed does not improve farming speed at all, then presumably a hero moving between lane and jungle with 150 movespeed will farm just as quickly as a hero with 522 all other things equal? Right? Assuming hero with 150 movespeed has 1200 range blink with 6 second cd, he will farm even faster. | ||
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
Now I'm sorry And derailing the thread too. So to get it back to track can someone enlighten me about the art of playing Bloodseeker in low level pubs?Should I go gank madness after level six or should I focus more on farming and carrying the game that way? Obviously if enemy team does not have solo-killable heroes or groups up it'll be harder to gain advantage by ganking, but I feel like his skill-set does make him too reliable on other heroes to set things up in teamfights, because he's vulnurable to burst and does not have disables. That's why going for more farm oriented style with him does not feel correct. In 1v1 situations I can silence the enemy if needed or just use the silence on myself after casting rupture if I don't have to fear stuns or some other skills, but in teamfights I feel like I need too much from other people to really have any control over what's happening. Similarly how should I itemize him? Shadowblade allows me to get close and personal with enemies but does very little else, of course it works for running away too :p Is BKB a good choice for first item, or is it too defensive for him to allow him to gain most out of his strengths? Would diffusal blade be good, as the slow, purge and manaburn seem all like useful properties for him. | ||
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
On January 06 2014 02:03 Oukka wrote: Now I'm sorry And derailing the thread too. So to get it back to track can someone enlighten me about the art of playing Bloodseeker in low level pubs?Should I go gank madness after level six or should I focus more on farming and carrying the game that way? Obviously if enemy team does not have solo-killable heroes or groups up it'll be harder to gain advantage by ganking, but I feel like his skill-set does make him too reliable on other heroes to set things up in teamfights, because he's vulnurable to burst and does not have disables. That's why going for more farm oriented style with him does not feel correct. In 1v1 situations I can silence the enemy if needed or just use the silence on myself after casting rupture if I don't have to fear stuns or some other skills, but in teamfights I feel like I need too much from other people to really have any control over what's happening. Similarly how should I itemize him? Shadowblade allows me to get close and personal with enemies but does very little else, of course it works for running away too :p Is BKB a good choice for first item, or is it too defensive for him to allow him to gain most out of his strengths? Would diffusal blade be good, as the slow, purge and manaburn seem all like useful properties for him. Ganking depends since BS can some what semi carry. You can just stay mid and farm up, you are not really obligated to gank at 6 but if you see opportunity then go for it. He isnt like Pudge who revolve all around ganking. Gank when you must otherwise just farm up mid. It really depends who your laning with and who you are laning against to be honest and how well your ally are doing in their lane. If I am laning against a Zeus mid, I generally just farm up and shut him down with last hit and denies unless my allies really need me to gank. Item I would go for are phase, drums, bkb/sny/shadowblade/dagon are pretty solid for pub games. | ||
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